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ApathyGifted posted:Where did we get the idea that Cap opposed the lack of oversight for SHIELD? Yeah I was going to post something to this effect last night but I was too tired. Cap's problem with SHIELD was that they seemed more interested in controlling people, even through fear, "for the greater good." Which set off some red flags for him. That is why I was saying he probably wouldn't have issue with the current micro-SHIELD. They are more about defending people from threats like HYDRA than they are about enforcing world peace through brute force.
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WarLocke posted:OK you gotta explain this. How is a tv show joke going to get you on an actual no-fly list? Because people are very, very stupid. 
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The Sharmat posted:SHIELD should not exist but it's believable that Coulson would think it should and it doesn't make him a bad person, plus it leads to interesting stories. That's pretty much where I am. Nothing wrong with watching and enjoying a show about people who are doing stuff that, if it was the real world, would be messed up stuff. Hell, nothing wrong even with watching a show where people are doing stuff that's kinda questionable even within the context of their own world. Obviously Coulson isn't Dexter Morgan or Walter White but he's not 100% wholesome edit: whoops apparently his name wasn't "dad" or "bill" ApathyGifted posted:And SHIELD had oversight anyway: the World Security Council, which was an actual multinational council that both Fury and Pierce had to answer to. And since Pierce killed all of them, it's a safe bet none of them were HYDRA. I forgot about this and it's a good point; I sorta assumed they were little more than an extension of SHIELD, but you're right, if he killed them all then they weren't. XboxPants fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Dec 21, 2014 |
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Thank god he's not a Bill Huxtable.
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At least then the show would have some actual menace instead of
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Season 2 has been poor so far. They really need to reduce the number of episodes. The already thin storyline is being stretched/diluted. Additionally, the fascination with mid-season finale's is causing too many nothing episodes because they have to pad it out or risk shooting their bolt too early. The action/fight scenes are complete cringe especially when you see how great the Marco Polo ones have been. Having said that, Agents suffers the same issue as Polo - the key character (Skye) is given nothing to work with. A better actor would do more with it though.
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Don't take the bait people.
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I have to. There's a Marco Polo series with a karate Marco Polo?
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Kung Fu... man... Sifu Hundred Eyes. Blind Kung Fu master. 
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WastedJoker posted:Season 2 has been poor so far. I disagree; I can't think of a single episode so far this season that hasn't advanced the overall plot. Unlike season 1, there haven't been any throwaway villain-of-the-week episodes. I will admit the fight choreography is a bit over the top, but given that this is a comic book series, I want to see the over the top action. I do agree that a lot of Skye's usefulness is a holdover from Season 1, where she was using her hacking/social engineering skills a lot more often.
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greatn posted:I have to. There's a Marco Polo series with a karate Marco Polo? Kung fu, not karate.  But yes. It's not actually very good, but it's at least entertaining.
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It is actually very good, its just not great and probably not $90 million well spent.
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I can't think of a better fight moment in recent cable TV than May head slamming agent 33 against the coffee table. gently caress the haters.
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Burning_Monk posted:I can't think of a better fight moment in recent cable TV than May head slamming agent 33 against the coffee table. Banshee: Olek vs Anna. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPdeq1rB1jA Banshee: Hood vs Kai, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ok3h8E42Qs Marco Polo: Hundred eyes vs Everyone (no link.)
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Power Rangers in Space: Adam vs. Lizwizard (unmorphed)
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Dexo posted:Don't take the bait people. I don't agree with him but having an unpopular opinion on SA is not bait.
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Come on mate, you can stay, but the bullshit has to go.
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Thank goodness we have "Garbage Dick" around to tell people how to post.
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greatn posted:Power Rangers in Space: Adam vs. Lizwizard (unmorphed) Not even the best fight that season
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It's fun to say Lizwizard though. If marvel doesn't have an inhuman called Lizwizard they need to get on that.
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Irish Joe posted:Thank goodness we have "Garbage Dick" around to tell people how to post. ... he asked nervously..
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Rocksicles posted:Banshee: Olek vs Anna. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPdeq1rB1jA Wow. 8 minutes of actors throwing each other into the set.
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Burning_Monk posted:I can't think of a better fight moment in recent cable TV than May head slamming agent 33 against the coffee table. The gold standard all media tries to live up to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9rrgJXfLns
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Irish Joe posted:Thank goodness we have "Garbage Dick" around to tell people how to post. gently caress off Joe, you need all the help you can get. PriorMarcus posted:Wow. 8 minutes of actors throwing each other into the set. RIGHT!
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The Sharmat posted:Maybe if they registered them or something so the government could at least keep track of them. And how well did that work in X-men when they wanted to register mutants?
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Dalael posted:And how well did that work in X-men when they wanted to register mutants? They all signed up and got free obamaphones, and diplomatic relations with genosha were normalised. US govt paid reparations to disenfranchised mutants and Magneto paid survivors of his victims in a civil suit.
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The whole Registration Act in comics is a sore point because no two writers could ever agree on what it actually was. Some had it as "If you have powers and want to fight crime, you must train successfully as a special law officer. If you don't we will arrest you as we would any other chump going around and beating people up." Others had it as "If you have powers you must train to be a special law officer or we will arrest you for the crime of simply existing." Also, after arrest you got sent to a prison in another dimension which sapped your powers and sent you insane. Also, you can't appeal your decision because evil space prison isn't on US soil. Also, that entire universe is ruled by one of the most powerful and evil megalomaniacs in existence. This being has literally quadrillions of soldiers willing to fight to the death for him. He also wants to conquer our universe. Also, there happens to be a doorway to Earth in the prison.
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That's not really that crazy, by US foreign policy standards.
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The unrealistic part was that the massacring of a grade school actually resulted in any political change. Maybe if speedball had used a gun instead.
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Gorilla Salad posted:Also, that entire universe is ruled by one of the most powerful and evil megalomaniacs in existence. This being has literally quadrillions of soldiers willing to fight to the death for him. He also wants to conquer our universe. Also, there happens to be a doorway to Earth in the prison. Pretty much. Asking people with super powers to register and train with a government agency before beating people half to death in the name of "justice" is a good idea, which is why its so disappointing when the guy behind the idea inevitably turns out to be the Red Skull.
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My comparison of Agents to Marco Polo was not meant to offend. Please accept my sincerest apologies. Edit: Sorry, meant to post this in the Marco Polo thread.
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WastedJoker posted:My comparison of Agents to Marco Polo was not meant to offend. Please accept my sincerest apologies. I have now paid attention to you. If some attention and human contact is all you were looking for, mission accomplished, you can leave happy.
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Guys, I know how much my opinion means to all of you and I want to offer my sincerest apologies if you found anything I said about Marvel's Agents of SHIELD offensive or off-putting. Its hard when one of your heroes and most respected posters has an opinion you don't share, so I thought this apology was necessary just in case anyone was thinking about committing suicide over my comments. They're just opinions and, though I know you look up to me, you shouldn't hate yourself for having an opinion different from mine. Thank you.
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greatn posted:The unrealistic part was that the massacring of a grade school actually resulted in any political change. Maybe if speedball had used a gun instead. The difference is that people don't have superpowers. People love moral outrage and political change as long as they aren't negatively affected by it.
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That was the sticking point with Luke Cage and Jessica Jones. They just wanted to be a family and not super hero, but nope, Hill and Stark had to have everyone with powers to get registered. Also, some people had an issue of their secret identities being known to the goverment. Though in the MCU, that really isn't an issue, at least until Daredevil is part of it. Hopefully by the time Cap Vs Shellhead : Rise of Registration comes out, the MCU will be more populated with superpowered beings so its a bigger thing.
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BreakAtmo posted:The difference is that people don't have superpowers. People love moral outrage and political change as long as they aren't negatively affected by it. A gun is a pretty kick rear end superpower. Just imagine Harry Potter and had one. Slitherin house wouldn't stand a chance.
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Irish Joe posted:Guys, I know how much my opinion means to all of you and I want to offer my sincerest apologies if you found anything I said about Marvel's Agents of SHIELD offensive or off-putting. Its hard when one of your heroes and most respected posters has an opinion you don't share, so I thought this apology was necessary just in case anyone was thinking about committing suicide over my comments. They're just opinions and, though I know you look up to me, you shouldn't hate yourself for having an opinion different from mine. Christ dude, you'll get your turn, I can only really pay attention to one person at a time, have some patience.
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Irish Joe posted:Thank goodness we have "Garbage Dick" around to tell people how to post. Tell us more about that kid's blowjob lips Irish Joe.
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My favourite part of Skye shooting Ward is how shocked and hurt he looks. He really thought she'd forgive him. Crazy Ward is the best thing this show has done
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