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But really though, aside from the Star Winning it doesn't look like the others got that big of an upgrade. Try Burning might just get boosted offense/defense but without any other gimmicks they'd have to actually train Sekai to further his effectiveness because it doesn't look like just a mech tuning is going to help against Saga and pretty boy. Lightning's core suit was already tuned to extreme lengths and it still got owned really easy, dont know how a backpack is going to help him since it looks like its just more firepower. Unless of course that had to do more with him rushing a suit by himself instead of relying on the suits strengths.
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Cao Ni Ma posted:But really though, aside from the Star Winning it doesn't look like the others got that big of an upgrade. Try Burning might just get boosted offense/defense but without any other gimmicks they'd have to actually train Sekai to further his effectiveness because it doesn't look like just a mech tuning is going to help against Saga and pretty boy. Lightning's core suit was already tuned to extreme lengths and it still got owned really easy, dont know how a backpack is going to help him since it looks like its just more firepower. Unless of course that had to do more with him rushing a suit by himself instead of relying on the suits strengths. It's got what looks like the 0-Raiser for its backpack. If it is, it's pretty much guaranteed to have fancy plavsky particle gimmicks.
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Dec 22, 2014 16:25
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Speculation like other people: I really hope they do an SD>Hg thing now, just because it will be bonkers. Also while that Lightning backpack mk2 is probably the most insane backpack in gundam recently, it is actually somewhat bulky unlike all the SEED-era/00 raiser.
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Just after another look at the pictures Isn't that rifle the Lightning's holding from one the 00 variants?
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Looks like the upgraded version is called the Lightning Gundam Full Burnern if that helps with the speculation. 
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John Carstairs posted:Looks like the upgraded version is called the Lightning Gundam Full Burnern if that helps with the speculation.  It all makes sense now.
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Dec 22, 2014 17:38
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The only lame thing about this is that we're not getting a Losing Gundam after all.
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Dec 22, 2014 17:46
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No, that'll be Lady's machine.
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Blaze Dragon posted:The only lame thing about this is that we're not getting a Losing Gundam after all. Cao Ni Ma posted:
There's the Losing Gundam.
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Dec 22, 2014 18:11
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Told you guys they were gonna get another upgrade, burning gundam still needs a some kind of backpack also.
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Cao Ni Ma posted:
I saw that in Nakano last year when I was on vacation in Japan. I did a double take on the box and thought it was a custom build the store did. Nope legit LP Gundam. The paint job on it is bland and all shades of gunmetal grey. Doesn't even come with a beam guitar rifle or anything cool like that.
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Dec 22, 2014 19:09
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You'll need the Extreme Gundam if you want that.
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Shameful Opinion Time: A Thousand Suns is the best Linkin Park album, and I think The Catalyst would have made a pretty great song for a Gundam TV Opening. There, now you can start making fun of me for liking Linkin Park.
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MonsieurChoc posted:Shameful Opinion Time: A Thousand Suns is the best Linkin Park album, and I think The Catalyst would have made a pretty great song for a Gundam TV Opening. I don't have the heart to make fun of you for that, just pity. 
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Dec 22, 2014 19:21
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if the star winning gundam's gimmick is to turn into a 1/144 that'll be the coolest
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Dec 22, 2014 19:32
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Tenzarin posted:Told you guys they were gonna get another upgrade, burning gundam still needs a some kind of backpack also. No one doubted, just the lack of information (especially after a gunpla related event) usually means "not any time soon" rather than "during this arc".
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Dec 22, 2014 19:37
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I guess we can just chalk it up to more of Bandai's 2014 insanity.
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BlitzBlast posted:I guess we can just chalk it up to more of Bandai's 2014 insanity. God bless it.
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Lessail posted:if the star winning gundam's gimmick is to turn into a 1/144 that'll be the coolest It'd also continue to call into question Yuuma's role as "best builder" if his upgrade is just a backpack.
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That's what Sei did too! Sure the SBS had some new thighs as well, but it was mostly just the Universe Booster.
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Mordja posted:It'd also continue to call into question Yuuma's role as "best builder" if his upgrade is just a backpack. What if it's a really cool backpack?
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Yuuma being the best builder has kind of been kaput for a while, seeing how the winning is so heavily customized that it's essentially a scratch-built model, compared to the Lightning.
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MonsieurChoc posted:Shameful Opinion Time: A Thousand Suns is the best Linkin Park album, and I think The Catalyst would have made a pretty great song for a Gundam TV Opening. The Catalyst was the opening song for Mobile Suit Gundam: Extreme Vs. . Linkin Park also got to pick a model for gunpla around when this happen to release a custom color scheme for it.
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BlitzBlast posted:That's what Sei did too! Sure the SBS had some new thighs as well, but it was mostly just the Universe Booster. Basically all three of them got individual parts of the SBS. The lightning got the backpack, the burning got the extra shiny bits and the winning got the little plavisky pointy parts.
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Tenzarin posted:The Catalyst was the opening song for Mobile Suit Gundam: Extreme Vs. . Linkin Park also got to pick a model for gunpla around when this happen to release a custom color scheme for it. Too bad they picked the most laughably dumb color scheme.
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I think I figured out why the BBG doesn't have a backpack - that's what the Lightning's new kit is for.
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Darth Walrus posted:I think I figured out why the BBG doesn't have a backpack - that's what the Lightning's new kit is for. Hail the Build Gaudy Gundam
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If the Winning's gimmick is to turn into a 1/144 (and using up its spare parts), why can't Fumina just use a regular 1/144 and keep those spare parts for the others? #BFTlogic
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hot pants posted:If the Winning's gimmick is to turn into a 1/144 (and using up its spare parts), why can't Fumina just use a regular 1/144 and keep those spare parts for the others? #BFTlogic Why not have the winning road upgrades on Build Burning and Lightning and another full suit? Why anything?
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BizarroAzrael posted:Why not have the winning road upgrades on Build Burning and Lightning and another full suit? Why anything? Now you're just being silly. e. But if the National Tournament arc doesn't feature a team of 3 Lagowes that combine into Voltron-gundam I'll be very sad. hot pants fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Dec 22, 2014 |
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hot pants posted:If the Winning's gimmick is to turn into a 1/144 (and using up its spare parts), why can't Fumina just use a regular 1/144 and keep those spare parts for the others? #BFTlogic I assume that if it really is a transformation (and not an SRX thing), she still has a Winning Knuckle and Winning Launcher too. Darth Walrus posted:I think I figured out why the BBG doesn't have a backpack - that's what the Lightning's new kit is for. Like I said. R1, R2 Powered, R3 Powered.
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BizarroAzrael posted:Why not have the winning road upgrades on Build Burning and Lightning and another full suit? Why anything? This is actually what I've been wanting to know since the Winning had its Winning Road debut. It's an amazingly cool little gunpla but it seems kind of pointless to immediately cripple yourself to power up your partners when you could just power up your partners without crippling yourself.
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Darth Walrus posted:I think I figured out why the BBG doesn't have a backpack - that's what the Lightning's new kit is for. Yes! I was hoping that the upgrades would GATTAI.
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That actually looks pretty cool.
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Kanos posted:This is actually what I've been wanting to know since the Winning had its Winning Road debut. It's an amazingly cool little gunpla but it seems kind of pointless to immediately cripple yourself to power up your partners when you could just power up your partners without crippling yourself. Its a game rules thing I imagine. You build the best gunpla you possibly can and it gets points assigned to it through whatever bizarre method they use to assign abilities to gunpla. You could slap the Winning gundam gimmicks onto it at this point, but they aren't going to add to the overall power in the same way because they just count into the score as usual. By contrast when they are used in battle they are taking something away from your team to directly amplify the power of your suit. Probably bad at explaining it, but it'd be something like this if scores were out of 100. Burning: 98 Winning: 95 Lightning: 97 Burning w/knuckle: 129 Lightning W/leg things :128 Winning Booster: 33
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Caros posted:Its a game rules thing I imagine. You build the best gunpla you possibly can and it gets points assigned to it through whatever bizarre method they use to assign abilities to gunpla. You could slap the Winning gundam gimmicks onto it at this point, but they aren't going to add to the overall power in the same way because they just count into the score as usual. By contrast when they are used in battle they are taking something away from your team to directly amplify the power of your suit. The Winning booster has more confirmed kills and assists than the base Winning. Flip those scores, the other body parts are just power limiters.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:The Winning booster has more confirmed kills and assists than the base Winning. Flip those scores, the other body parts are just power limiters. Fair point.
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Caros posted:Its a game rules thing I imagine. You build the best gunpla you possibly can and it gets points assigned to it through whatever bizarre method they use to assign abilities to gunpla. You could slap the Winning gundam gimmicks onto it at this point, but they aren't going to add to the overall power in the same way because they just count into the score as usual. By contrast when they are used in battle they are taking something away from your team to directly amplify the power of your suit. That isn't really the way the game works. It is probably how it should work but the Build Burning alone kind of proves that because nobody programmed in Jigen Haoh moves and assigned them point values or anything and there are plenty of other examples of things which don't make sense there. I mean the honest truth is that BF's game makes no sense and shouldn't be analyzed closely. Winning Road just stands out because it fills the same niche as the Absorb Shield but without the limitations and strengths that AS had, so it leads to the question. If Winning Gundam had to build up a Plavsky reserve and then release it (ala the RG system) then Winning Road would totally make sense. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Dec 22, 2014 |
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Darth Walrus posted:I think I figured out why the BBG doesn't have a backpack - that's what the Lightning's new kit is for. Compatible Kaiser? I-is that you? I'm actually pretty OK with this potential design. And the new Winning.
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The game does take into consideration some factors. We know that Sei struggled at one point designing how the MkII engine was going to power it, the SBS has to use external energy to power its more powerful modes and the Cardigan cant equip a full weapon loadout because of power and weight constraints. There's no reason why the Burning couldn't equip a backpack outside of Sei's personal preference though.
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