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Box Hill Strangler
Jun 27, 2007

Frozen peas are on special at Woolies! Bargain!
Im now convinced the Abbott government is run by people playing Cards against Humanity. First they just play the 'Minister for X is _____' card immediately followed by 'Will be tackling/fighting a war against ____'. Theres no other way they can be coming up with the combinations and bogeymen that they are. I mean are we now going to do the bikey thing on a national level? REALLY?

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hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

Anidav posted:

Dear News Ltd Wizard. Please use your dark magic on Newman.

Brown Paper Bag
Nov 3, 2012

So who will replace him?

My favourite Robbo moment was when he held a press conference to brag about how he refused a bribe from Michael McGurk, which just led to everyone asking him why he didn't report it to the police.

evilbastard
Mar 6, 2003

Hair Elf

Anidav posted:

Looks like News Ltd has a wizard who can trigger leadership spills.

He was doomed the minute that news came out - the NSW Coalition media buy could have just used ex-Willie Horton scripts and called it a day.

Quantum Mechanic
Apr 25, 2010

Just another fuckwit who thrives on fake moral outrage.
:derp:Waaaah the Christians are out to get me:derp:

lol abbottsgonnawin
The fun never stops with NSW Labor

Amused to Death
Aug 10, 2009

google "The Night Witches", and prepare for :stare:

I decided to click the Auspol thread for the first time in like 2 weeks and this is what I'm greeted with. Shine on Australia

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
News Ltd Wizard is now Auspol canon.

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

In other good news which you probably already heard about, Kevin Andrews defunded a bunch of disability orgs on his way out of Social Services:

Press Release posted:

‘Disability Peaks Forced to Close Doors on People with Disability’ said Matthew Wright, Chief Executive Officer of the Australian Federation of Disability Organisations and spokesperson for the disability peaks

Ten peak organisations run by people with disability will be left with no choice but to either close their doors or reduce services, with seven organisations subject to drastic funding cuts by outgoing Minister for Social Services, Kevin Andrews.

Together the disability peak bodies represent over 90% of Australians with disability and 83% of the identified disability groups in Australia. The organisations have over 200,000 supporters, including 140 organisations, consumer groups, service providers and carer associations.

“Organisations with over 200 combined years of expertise will be forced to shut their doors in three months time - leaving people who are blind, deaf, hearing impaired, people with intellectual disability, people with brain injury, people with autism and people with physical disabilities with no voice and no specialist representation”, said spokesperson Mr Matthew Wright.

“This expertise cannot be replicated. Once it’s lost, it’s lost. Our organisations have actively engaged in the Government’s workforce agenda, however this decision leaves our 200,000 constituents with a disability and their 140 supportive organisations out in the cold.

We believe that this decision, which reflects a misunderstanding of people with disability, will have significant ramifications on the ability of the Government to successfully implement reform for people with disability, including changes to income support and real efforts to increase economic participation. Without specific representation, people with disability will be vulnerable to adverse outcomes in these areas and more.

This morning we requested an urgent meeting with incoming Minister Scott Morrison to discuss the decision beforethe voice of people with disability is irreversibly impacted”, said Mr Wright.

Consumer organisations that have been defunded or not funded to represent the specialist voice of people with disability under Department of Social Services contracts include:

Australian Federation of Disability Organisations
Autism Aspergers Advocacy Australia
Blind Citizens Australia
Brain Injury Australia
Deaf Australia
Deafness Forum of Australia
Down Syndrome Australia
National Council on Intellectual Disability
Physical Disability Australia
Short Statured People of Australia

Ooh NDIS how do we stop that AND gently caress Morrison on the way out? loving shabby, mean and typical Andrews.

drunkill
Sep 25, 2007

me @ ur posting
Fallen Rib
Best governmental twitter account:
https://twitter.com/ABSCensus

quote:

Census Australia @ABSCensus · Dec 5
Believe it or not, no one reported their occupation as Secret Agent in the last Census #007 #Spectre

Census Australia @ABSCensus · Dec 12
What happened to the man who stole an Advent Calendar? He got 25 days! Census data reveals there are 12,434 Prison Officers in Aus.

Census Australia @ABSCensus · Dec 17
Why did Santa put a chimney on Tinder? He wanted it to be swept right! There are 4,173 Cleaners (NEC), including Chimney Sweeps, in Aus.

Census Australia @ABSCensus · 3h 3 hours ago
Why were Santa’s helpers in hiding this year? Their naked elfies were leaked. Census data reveals there are 9,547 Photographers in Aus.

thatbastardken
Apr 23, 2010

A contract signed by a minor is not binding!

drunkill posted:

Best governmental twitter account:
https://twitter.com/ABSCensus

quote:

Census Australia @ABSCensus · Dec 17
Why did Santa put a chimney on Tinder? He wanted it to be swept right! There are 4,173 Cleaners (NEC), including Chimney Sweeps, in Aus.


endman sighed etc etc

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar










Also, the Australian voter recoiling from the Abbott government:

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

clusterfuck
Feb 6, 2004


Not new news, but a good article.
How John Howard's tax cuts undid his protégé Tony Abbott

thesaturdaypaper posted:

The budget, with its raft of grossly regressive savings measures, can be seen as just one part of a long and concerted effort to redistribute income upwards.
IMF assessment

That effort began more than a decade ago when John Howard and Hockey’s predecessor, Peter Costello, ran the most profligate government in Australian history.

Profligate is not our word. It was the word used by the International Monetary Fund in a major report it released early last year, that examined 200 years of government financial records across 55 major economies, identifying periods of government prudence and profligacy in spending.

Overall, Australia was judged very favourably. For most of the country’s history, governments of both persuasions had been prudent economic managers. The IMF identified only four periods of profligacy. The two biggest were during the Howard–Costello years. They were in 2003 and then between 2005 and 2007, and they accompanied the mining boom.

On its face, the IMF assessment might seem harsh. After all, before they were voted out in 2007, Howard and Costello had delivered six budget surpluses in a row.

But they also seriously undermined the structural integrity of the budget by making big spending commitments and giving huge tax cuts, on the basis of a flood of revenue that would inevitably dry up.

“You can sum it up in four words,” says Chris Richardson of Deloitte Access Economics. “Temporary boom, permanent promises.”

For a period money roared in to the economy, as a result of what was happening in China and elsewhere. According to Richardson, this enormous boom made the government of Howard and Costello look better than it was.

“Subsequently we’ve heard the sucking sound as the money’s gone back down the gurgler, which has made Rudd, Gillard and Swan look worse than they were,” he said. “And it’s now making Abbott and Hockey look worse than they are.”
‘They spent the lot’

To be fair to Howard and Costello, they were encouraged by the bureaucrats in Treasury, the Australian Bureau of Agricultural and Resource Economics and even the Reserve Bank to think this boom was different, and that the money would continue to roll in for decades to come.

“That was a failing. We’ve never had a permanent boom before,” says Richardson. “Anyway, they spent the lot. On tax cuts, baby bonuses, and so on.”

John Hewson, former Liberal leader, economist and now professor with the Crawford School of Public Policy at the Australian National University, underlines the point: “The tax cuts Howard and Costello gave are now costing [the budget] about $30 billion a year, and the deficit’s $40 billion.”

Without those cuts and the $9 billion Hockey gave – unasked for and against the will of treasury – to the Reserve Bank, says Hewson, “the deficit problem wouldn’t exist”.

And that’s without including some $40 billion in tax concessions for superannuation, which accrue overwhelmingly to the wealthiest 20 per cent of taxpayers.

“You can easily add it up to show that the deficit that exists today is a fake number,” says Hewson. “They’ve basically imposed it on themselves.”

More correctly, they imposed it on the less well-off.


Matt Grudnoff, the senior economist at The Australia Institute, calculates that over the seven years from 2005-06 to 2011-12, the federal government lost $169 billion in revenue as a result of the income tax cuts alone.

“Of the $169 billion in tax cuts, 42 per cent of them, or $71 billion, went to the top 10 per cent of income earners,” he wrote in his paper “Tax cuts that broke the budget”. “The top 10 per cent got more in tax cuts than the bottom 80 per cent.”

On Grudnoff’s figuring, this year’s budget would have been fatter by almost $40 billion had the cuts not been given.
Rudd followed suit

The Howard–Costello government delivered five rounds of income tax cuts, and had promised more during the 2007 election campaign. The incoming Rudd Labor government, having committed to match the Coalition’s promised cuts, delivered them.

So Labor cannot escape all blame for the current state of the budget. But it is largely guilty of just proceeding to do what the Howard government would have done, by hacking into revenue. Its spending, contrary to the consistent assertions of conservatives over recent years, was not the issue.

That has been made abundantly clear by various analyses of the structural decline of the budget.

Having detailed two of these reports last year – by the treasury department and the independent Parliamentary Budget Office –The Sydney Morning Herald’s economics editor Ross Gittins apportioned the relative culpability of the two parties thus:

“They say it’s only when the tide goes out you discover who’s been swimming naked. It’s the same when you calculate the ‘structural’ budget balance. And we’ve just learnt that though Wayne Swan’s cossie has slipped revealingly, Peter Costello was completely starkers.”

Not surprisingly, Swan endorses these analyses: “It’s the revenue, stupid,” he says. “It was a revenue story throughout.”

clusterfuck fucked around with this message at 07:22 on Dec 23, 2014

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

I would blow Dane Cook fucked around with this message at 07:32 on Dec 23, 2014

Quantum Mechanic
Apr 25, 2010

Just another fuckwit who thrives on fake moral outrage.
:derp:Waaaah the Christians are out to get me:derp:

lol abbottsgonnawin

Wayne loving Swan posted:

Swan endorses these analyses: “It’s the revenue, stupid,” he says. “It was a revenue story throughout.”

Says treasurer who took absolutely no action on structural revenue that wasn't twisted out of him by the Greens

Quantum Mechanic fucked around with this message at 07:34 on Dec 23, 2014

Fruity Gordo
Aug 5, 2013

Neurotic, Impotent Rage!
But you see Labor can't be held responsible for their lovely policies, hypocrisy, and complete lack of conviction and ethics when the electorate is just as useless.

Because one of the responsibilities of government is not to be more wise and practical than the electorate.

Comstar
Apr 20, 2007

Are you happy now?

Gorilla Salad posted:







Also, the Australian voter recoiling from the Abbott government:



WTF is this from?

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Wayne was still an economic genius compared to Hockey or Costello. But this thread will probably disprove my positive opinion of him very soon.

I Killed GBS
Jun 2, 2011

by Lowtax

Fruity Gordo posted:

Because one of the responsibilities of government is not to be more wise and practical than the electorate.

i think they're just supposed to be representative
wiser and more practical is kind of a thing you hope for

edit: or maybe that's my American leftist cynicism distorting my expectations, I don't know

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


Quantum Mechanic posted:

Says treasurer who took absolutely no action on structural revenue that wasn't twisted out of him by the Greens

They at least made a token effort with things like the mining tax, but apparently saw the backlash to that and gave up entirely. Given that they were facing electoral doom anyway Labor should have just gone whole hog on trying to undo Howard era cuts, they couldn't really have done much worse than they did and it would have been really hard for Abbott to undo their changes while also talking about a need to balance the budget.

clusterfuck
Feb 6, 2004


Quantum Mechanic posted:

Says treasurer who took absolutely no action on structural revenue that wasn't twisted out of him by the Greens

Sounds good, whats the example of greens twisting structural reform? Didn't Rudd promise to keep the tax cuts?

Gough Suppressant
Nov 14, 2008

Anidav posted:

Wayne was still an economic genius compared to Hockey or Costello. But this thread will probably disprove my positive opinion of him very soon.

It's not exactly a big hurdle you've put up for him to drunkenly shuffle over.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again

Gough Suppressant posted:

It's not exactly a big hurdle you've put up for him to drunkenly shuffle over.

And yet the media hated him the most :smith:

CrazyTolradi
Oct 2, 2011

It feels so good to be so bad.....at posting.

Anidav posted:

And yet the media hated him the most :smith:

Poor Labor, my heart bleeds for them. Luckily for me, I'm not literally bleeding, unlike some in Manus and Nauru.

Sorry, I just can't find any sympathy for Labor.

drunkill
Sep 25, 2007

me @ ur posting
Fallen Rib

What the gently caress is this? Fuckin' Queensland..

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

drunkill posted:

What the gently caress is this? Fuckin' Queensland..

Apparently it was preferable to people just pissing on the street.

sick of Applebees
Nov 7, 2008

drunkill posted:

What the gently caress is this? Fuckin' Queensland..

I know at least in Bristol (England) they would wheel them out on the weekend for the drunks to have somewhere other than the pavement to go, no idea why that is out during the day though that's kinda gross

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




That photo isn't daytime though, the sky in the top right corner is dark, it's all streetlights.

Scapegoat
Sep 18, 2004

Jumpingmanjim posted:

Apparently it was preferable to people just pissing on the street.

They have similar in London for when all the pubs close.

Digiwizzard
Dec 23, 2003


Pork Pro

Comstar posted:

WTF is this from?

Ugly Americans. It's a good show.

Quantum Mechanic
Apr 25, 2010

Just another fuckwit who thrives on fake moral outrage.
:derp:Waaaah the Christians are out to get me:derp:

lol abbottsgonnawin

clusterfuck posted:

Didn't Rudd promise to keep the tax cuts?

He sure did. The Greens got some movement on the mining tax and a few other smallish areas of tax reform but yeah, pretty much anything else was squibbed.

Senor Tron posted:

Given that they were facing electoral doom anyway Labor should have just gone whole hog on trying to undo Howard era cuts, they couldn't really have done much worse than they did and it would have been really hard for Abbott to undo their changes while also talking about a need to balance the budget.

One part of this, to be perfectly fair (and this pains me) is that cutting some taxes during slumps is actually good Keynesian policy. However, Australia's structural budget problem is such that they really should have either raised or indicated raises to at least a few of the more egregious tax rorts (especially the CGT discount on property) and made up the difference with higher spending instead.

Gough Suppressant
Nov 14, 2008
Kevin Rudd got elected on a platform which basically consisted of "this is almost the exact same platform as the liberals but I'm not John Howard"

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE

Nobodies mentioned the guy who looks like he's taking a dump in the urinal yet?

Turks
Nov 16, 2006

Labor seriously need to get their poo poo together and stop following the Liberal party like a lost puppy. It's shocking that the best they can do at the moment is 'slightly less lovely than the worst government in living memory'. I haven't followed Auspol (or politics in general) for over a year now, and would like to know how the thread felt generally about Gillard. I feel like she had a good thing going (other than the ongoing human rights violation that is Australias refugee policy), but a feeling is all it is.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
I've been hoping for atleast a year and a half for the ALP to get its poo poo together.

Fruity Gordo
Aug 5, 2013

Neurotic, Impotent Rage!
Here's a bit of Christmas cheer! Ralphie and his little mate Zane got refused bail for their Lakemba adventure and will be spending a lonely Christmas in the slammer. :3:

CrazyTolradi
Oct 2, 2011

It feels so good to be so bad.....at posting.

Fruity Gordo posted:

Here's a bit of Christmas cheer! Ralphie and his little mate Zane got refused bail for their Lakemba adventure and will be spending a lonely Christmas in the slammer. :3:

Best news I've read all month.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

Fruity Gordo posted:

Here's a bit of Christmas cheer! Ralphie and his little mate Zane got refused bail for their Lakemba adventure and will be spending a lonely Christmas in the slammer. :3:

Isn't he on hunger strike too because the food is halal?

T-1000
Mar 28, 2010

Turks posted:

Labor seriously need to get their poo poo together and stop following the Liberal party like a lost puppy. It's shocking that the best they can do at the moment is 'slightly less lovely than the worst government in living memory'. I haven't followed Auspol (or politics in general) for over a year now, and would like to know how the thread felt generally about Gillard. I feel like she had a good thing going (other than the ongoing human rights violation that is Australias refugee policy), but a feeling is all it is.
The Gillard government passed a huge amount of legislation despite facing the most obstructionist opposition I can think of and only having a majority due to the independents. There was some quality stuff like the carbon tax and NBN, plain cigarette packaging, Gonski school reforms, NDIS, probably a few other things.

There was also some terrible stuff, such as refugee policy, cuts to single parent payments, and probably some more stuff I don't remember.

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Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
His brain went on strike long ago.

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