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I'll never buy that Peter would keep being Spider-Man in an active capacity with a kid.
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Cassa posted:But if Peter is happy, how will audiences relate? Come up with a new character who looks up to him as an example of someone who overcame his problems and became the world's greatest superhero. To clarify, I don't know if I would necessarily want to read about the adventures of that Spider-Man; I'm interested in the idea of a setting where Marvel's superheroes grew up and inspired a new generation, and I think that becoming Cap's successor is a logical place for Peter to go (in much the same way as Dick Grayson taking over as Batman was while that lasted). SirDan3k posted:I'll never buy that Peter would keep being Spider-Man in an active capacity with a kid. Perhaps not, and that's why I'm also interested in What Ifs where Peter retires to raise his daughter and Ben Reilly is Spider-Man full-time. While I appreciate that American superhero comics are what they are, I guess I just like the idea of Peter having a more or less happy ending. 
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Dec 7, 2014 01:58
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Yvonmukluk posted:Of course it worked better as a thought exercise before Marvel unceremoniously offed some of their best up-and-comers and character assassinated some of the others. The problem with this sort of thing is that no writer wants to build on new up-and-coming characters, they all want to introduce THEIR much cooler new characters. That's why there's such a surplus of limbo'd teen characters to horribly kill every time there's an event that needs extra drama.
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Dec 7, 2014 02:35
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Yeah, future settings seem cool but then you just end up with a bunch of poo poo like this Batman Beyond is the only one, ever, to handle it properly. This stuff works for one-off what-if type stories but if you make it ongoing it always seems to fall apart and turn into a bunch of "you wont BELIEVE whos KID this is!!!" stuff. If all you're going to do is be like "Captain America's retired... but here's CyberCaptain America 2.0, and its a dog!" then there's not really much of a point to it.
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Dec 7, 2014 03:14
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Kelp Plankton posted:
Oh, and Terry's fiancee had an estranged older brother that was a Jokerz ringleader that pulls a Nolan style Kill Me or I Never Stop plan. Also Barbara and Dick were going to have a kid but she stopped a mugging and had a miscarraige. Which is good because it was really Bruce's child.
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Dec 7, 2014 05:33
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We're getting Danielle Cage as Captain America in Ultron Forever. I'd like to see what her world is like.
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Dec 7, 2014 10:04
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Kelp Plankton posted:Yeah, future settings seem cool but then you just end up with a bunch of poo poo like this Haha, true. One of my favourite 1990s comics is actually Guardians of the Galaxy by Jim Valentino, which had all kinds of silly stuff like that.
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Dec 7, 2014 11:37
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Kelp Plankton posted:Yeah, future settings seem cool but then you just end up with a bunch of poo poo like this Oh man please tell me that's Logan's kid with Psylocke popping psychic claws there.
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Dec 7, 2014 11:49
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Metal Loaf posted:I think I'd quite like to read a sort of MC2 storyline where Peter and Mary Jane still raise their daughter, but instead of losing a leg and retiring, Peter decisively beats Osborn once and for all and goes on to take over from Cap as leader of the Marvel universe's superheroes. SirDan3k posted:I'll never buy that Peter would keep being Spider-Man in an active capacity with a kid. Metal Loaf posted:Come up with a new character who looks up to him as an example of someone who overcame his problems and became the world's greatest superhero. quote:Perhaps not, and that's why I'm also interested in What Ifs where Peter retires to raise his daughter and Ben Reilly is Spider-Man full-time. Oh, I'd also not have Mattie Franlin murdered in Grim Hunt. gently caress Grim Hunt. Lurdiak posted:The problem with this sort of thing is that no writer wants to build on new up-and-coming characters, they all want to introduce THEIR much cooler new characters. That's why there's such a surplus of limbo'd teen characters to horribly kill every time there's an event that needs extra drama. McSpanky posted:Oh man please tell me that's Logan's kid with Psylocke popping psychic claws there. MC2 is literally The Greatest Thing in Comics. Yvonmukluk fucked around with this message at 12:18 on Dec 7, 2014 |
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Dec 7, 2014 12:15
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As of Injustice: Year 3 #14, Tom Taylor is gone. He'll be replaced by Brian Buccellato.
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Dec 11, 2014 19:56
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Gavok posted:As of Injustice: Year 3 #14, Tom Taylor is gone. He'll be replaced by Brian Buccellato. Welp, back to reading no DC books I guess.
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Dec 11, 2014 19:57
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Gavok posted:As of Injustice: Year 3 #14, Tom Taylor is gone. He'll be replaced by Brian Buccellato. Oh man  Why DC didn't offererd him exclusivity? He's knocking out of the park on everything he does.
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Dec 11, 2014 20:06
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Oh man Well now he's just gonna go do good books for Marvel.
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Dec 11, 2014 20:13
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Gavok posted:As of Injustice: Year 3 #14, Tom Taylor is gone. He'll be replaced by Brian Buccellato. I'm not familiar with him; how good/bad is he? Should I just be disappointed, or outright worried?
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Dec 11, 2014 21:27
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Idran posted:I'm not familiar with him; how good/bad is he? Should I just be disappointed, or outright worried? He's done a good job on both Detective Comics and Flash but is certainly a stepdown from Taylor. At least isn't Marguerite Bennet.
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Dec 11, 2014 21:36
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Senor Candle posted:Well now he's just gonna go do good books for Marvel. It's not all bad, then, I guess. 
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Dec 11, 2014 22:05
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Gavok posted:As of Injustice: Year 3 #14, Tom Taylor is gone. He'll be replaced by Brian Buccellato. This is a terrible Elseworld!
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Dec 11, 2014 22:59
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Superman's horrified reaction in today's Injustice was perfect. Dude just doesn't realize how low he's gotten.
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Dec 17, 2014 05:42
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Yeah that was pretty cool, I'm not going to hang it up just yet on reading Injustice, it sucks that Taylor is off the books now but I think it'll still be a really interesting book to read. Also, holy poo poo that reveal this week of Batman agreed to Etrigran!! took me by complete surprise I was not expecting that.
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Dec 17, 2014 20:14
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Yeah, what a cool reveal. The idea of Batman siding with Hell against Superman, and that Superman immediately called him on it was fantastic. That look of sadness and betrayal on Superman's face though Next issue is Tom Taylor's last, and I expect such an amazing piece. Cassa fucked around with this message at 04:26 on Dec 18, 2014 |
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Dec 18, 2014 04:21
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Yvonmukluk posted:It's Logan's kid with Elektra, but Psylocke did teach her to do the psychic claws thing. I will note this was because in the main universe at the time Wolverine was dealing with this whole 'the animal is overtaking the man' thing and for some reason Elektra was hanging around him a lot because of her issues with the Hand and somesuch...so of course when they make the MC2 universe the writers put them together. I mainly remember that was the time Wolverine was trying this new mask because he had no nose...yeah here we are.
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Dec 18, 2014 06:53
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Hollismason posted:Yeah that was pretty cool, I'm not going to hang it up just yet on reading Injustice, it sucks that Taylor is off the books now but I think it'll still be a really interesting book to read. Also, holy poo poo that reveal this week of Batman agreed to Etrigran!! took me by complete surprise I was not expecting that. Etrigan probably didn't even have to be coerced into it after he heard that he'd have such a fantastic phrase to turn back, with a rhyme already built-in!
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Dec 18, 2014 08:00
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Holy poo poo, this issue of Injustice 
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Dec 23, 2014 18:58
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Oh my god why Tom Taylor, why are you leaving us? This book is so much better than it should be, I almost can't see anybody picking it up and doing as well. Like, I think he just made me want to buy an Elseworld of an Elseworld. Taylor please come back to DC and write Injustice-ception: We have to go deeper.
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Dec 24, 2014 08:27
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That's really what has me worried. This should be poo poo, the whole set up is crap, it is so crap that when people told me it was good I wrote them off as Batman marks drooling over some evil Superman jerk fest. It took me almost a year to even pick it up and I did that as a laugh. The fact this book wasn't hot garbage is probably in danger of violating some fundamental law of the universe I don't know about. Expecting it to be good after Taylor leaves is like expecting to win the lottery twice on the same day while curing cancer with hugs.
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Dec 24, 2014 08:49
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Tom Taylor is knocking this out of the park so hard... Everything is perfect. Question came up while reading this issue, about the dust from last issue. It's like aerosolized Black Mercy, right? If so, interesting how Superman's ideal has Joker being murdered by Batman. I know that basically every DC fan has thought at some point 'yeah if Batman should make an exception, Joker should be it' but for Superman to think and want that to happen instead of how it all went down. I hope the next few issues aren't too heart breaking.
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TwoPair posted:Oh my god why Tom Taylor, why are you leaving us? This book is so much better than it should be, I almost can't see anybody picking it up and doing as well. I was coming to post just this. I've never been happier to see a dream sequence continue into another issue before. Cassa posted:Tom Taylor is knocking this out of the park so hard... It makes sense if you invoke dream logic. Superman's "seeing what he wants to see" so he's getting 1) a second chance to make things right while 2) his best friend symbolically redeems himself for his betrayal by doing what he "should have done" to avoid all this in the first place by 3) killing the sick gently caress who killed his wife and child and then turning himself in, achieving a conscience-clean revenge combo for Clark. It's like when Batman briefly got hit by the Black Mercy in "What Do You Get For The Man Who Has Everything?" His "perfect world" wasn't just his parents not getting killed but his father punishing the killer for everything that happened afterwards, even though in the dream setting little Bruce was already spared the agony of their deaths. You get everything you want. McSpanky fucked around with this message at 11:29 on Dec 24, 2014 |
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Dec 24, 2014 11:24
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If it was going to happen, that's definitely how it would happen, especially the thing on the last page.
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Dec 24, 2014 13:56
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The real world/what's left of his conscience bleeding through should be fun then. I'm expecting his relationship with Lois to start breaking down, her reacting to him having done the stuff he's done in the real world despite being a dream Lois and such.
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Dec 24, 2014 15:12
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I'm guessing that the comatose Wonder Woman's dream self is going to show up and help liberate Superman's mind, leading to her own awakening.
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Dec 24, 2014 15:46
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This wasn't a terrible issue I didn't think, also Superman's dream was interesting also yes it's totally Black Mercy
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Dec 24, 2014 22:24
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I think it's rather fascinating that Taylor insisted on ending his run in a Black Mercy dream sequence and decided, "I'm leaving this on a happy ending. I'll let the next guy grim it up."
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Dec 30, 2014 18:09
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Yes, "it's a comic" but any suggestions on why the Spectre couldn't do anything?
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Dec 30, 2014 20:21
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Iggles posted:Yes, "it's a comic" but any suggestions on why the Spectre couldn't do anything? If is indeed the Black Mercy, the illusion can only be broken from the inside. Not being magical on nature also helps.
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Dec 30, 2014 20:26
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Superman just walking through the prison divider like it wasn't there was great.
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Dec 30, 2014 20:49
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I liked how Clark and Lois's daughter turned out artwise and character wise. Is that based on a previous character or just something Taylor came up with?
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Dec 31, 2014 19:46
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Yeah I thought that was pretty interesting that deep down Superman really did want to kill the Joker or see him die. It was a interesting way to leave the book that's for sure. Kind of curious about this next guy.
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Dec 31, 2014 22:55
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Hollismason posted:Yeah I thought that was pretty interesting that deep down Superman really did want to kill the Joker or see him die. It was a interesting way to leave the book that's for sure. Kind of curious about this next guy. Well to be fair, this is the Superman who's experienced the death of Metropolis at Joker's (via his) hands, so that is at least subconsciously reflecting in his dream state. Hell, Joker murdered Lois in Kingdom Come and Superman arrested the guy who killed him.
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Dec 31, 2014 23:57
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Is this going to come out next week? That wasn't the end was it of this year? Also, how is Injustice doing? It's such a strange thing. Like who would have guessed this whole thing would have turned out so well.
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I kinda doubt it's Black Mercy, since it came from Constantine, right? And it's something that even Spectre can't undo. Maybe he got Morpheus/Dream to do him a solid?
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