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Got an annoying OSX / Windows 8.1 file sharing problem if anyone can help? Recently got a surface pro 3 after a few years on a macbook pro (so I'm not familiar with win8 yet). I have filesharing enabled on the OSX (via the native settings, with occasional SMBUp.app use for older devices). The problem is: From my SP3 I can see files on the mac, however I can only access them from the Metro apps. Eg, I can play videos and music from the Metro player, but can't play them from VLC (gives an unable to read from MRL error) . However, I can copy the files onto the Surface HDD and play them. I have tried turning off the firewall but no difference. On the other hand, I have a usb HDD connected to an Asus hub, and the surface can read those files wihtout issues. My Win 7 desktop can also read from the OSX drive as well. Can anyone help? I have no idea if its firewall or filesystem related.
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Is there a way to wipe my computer and go straight to 8.1 without having to install 7, then 8.0 then 8.1? I want a complete wipe and blank slate again. I originally had 7 HP, then bought the 8 upgrade for $40, and now am on 8.1. Is there an easy way to accomplish this? The recovery console in 8 doesn't seem to have much in what I'm wanting.
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Dec 21, 2014 18:05
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Gothmog1065 posted:Is there a way to wipe my computer and go straight to 8.1 without having to install 7, then 8.0 then 8.1? I want a complete wipe and blank slate again. I originally had 7 HP, then bought the 8 upgrade for $40, and now am on 8.1. Is there an easy way to accomplish this? The recovery console in 8 doesn't seem to have much in what I'm wanting. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?action=showpost&postid=438416666&forumid=22
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I got a new SSD and decided to install a fresh copy of Win8.1 on it while keeping my old Win7 install on another drive. I've now gotten to the point where the Win7 install isn't necessary anymore so I've formatted the disk but at boot, it's still giving me the option of choosing between the two Windows versions. How do I remove this so it boots straight up into Win8.1?
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Dec 22, 2014 00:11
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Gothmog1065 posted:Is there a way to wipe my computer and go straight to 8.1 without having to install 7, then 8.0 then 8.1? I want a complete wipe and blank slate again. I originally had 7 HP, then bought the 8 upgrade for $40, and now am on 8.1. Is there an easy way to accomplish this? The recovery console in 8 doesn't seem to have much in what I'm wanting. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/create-reset-refresh-media That will let you create a Windows 8.1 DVD. You can use your 8.0 product key. It contains all Windows 8.1 updates up to the huge August Update from this year as well. You don't need a dummy key or anything. Ignore the advice from Flipperwaldt (sorry, sir), it's no longer necessary with this media creation tool. Ragingsheep posted:I got a new SSD and decided to install a fresh copy of Win8.1 on it while keeping my old Win7 install on another drive. Right click Start button>System>Advanced system settings (down the left hand pane)>Start-up and Recovery>Settings... Clear the check box beside Time to display list of operating systems. Make sure Windows 8.1 is down as the default operating system. WattsvilleBlues fucked around with this message at 00:33 on Dec 22, 2014 |
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Dec 22, 2014 00:27
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WattsvilleBlues posted:http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/create-reset-refresh-media Did they remove the restriction for doing a clean install (on a new or pre-formatted disk) with an update key as well?
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FormatAmerica posted:Excel 2013 also opens each spreadsheet in a separate window instead of being stuck all within the same window so multi monitor, multi spreadsheet work is much easier. Yes this is a huge step forward and the reason I keep it on my work PC Almost everything else UI-wise is a complete disaster though - the oft mentioned no-contrast theme, the ALL CAPS tab titles, the nonsensical iconography and (worst of all) font rendering which is at best inconsistent (at worst completely eye-bleedingly unusable)
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I've got a laptop I've had for about five years and want to do a fresh install to get it running a little better. It came preloaded with Windows 7. I can see the product ID in the system information. Is there a way for me to download a copy of Windows 7 and use that product key for a reinstall without spending any money?
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Dec 23, 2014 12:31
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Nibbles! posted:I've got a laptop I've had for about five years and want to do a fresh install to get it running a little better. It came preloaded with Windows 7. I can see the product ID in the system information. Is there a way for me to download a copy of Windows 7 and use that product key for a reinstall without spending any money? Download Belarc Advisor and get your product key from that. The product ID isn't the same.
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Dec 23, 2014 12:42
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Or check laptop for sticker with product key on it, some laptops have those on the bottom.
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kalstrams posted:Or check laptop for sticker with product key on it, some laptops have those on the bottom. Or under the battery actually. Forgot about those lol.
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Dec 23, 2014 12:50
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It sounds like Nibbles! already has the product key and is asking if there's a way to download Windows 7 installation media. I'm not sure if there is any more.
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Dec 23, 2014 13:24
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There's the Digital River links (not the only place with the links, and the links themselves are still legit last I checked (tonight)). Pick the one for the edition your key is for and the architecture you want (for a consumer laptop, this is almost always Home Premium x64, but make sure). Language is up to you. Retrieving a Windows 8 or 8.1 image is a different matter. You can make the USB installer a number of ways, and Microsoft even has their own utility, but Rufus is probably the most reliable tool for the job.
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Dec 23, 2014 13:38
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hooah posted:It sounds like Nibbles! already has the product key and is asking if there's a way to download Windows 7 installation media. I'm not sure if there is any more. Most of the microsoft downloads for windows 7 .isos from digitalriver are still up (legally available, not  ), and SP1 is on the ones in this link so there's less to download from windows update afterwards:http://www.pcworld.com/article/248995/how-to-install-windows-7-without-the-disc.html
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Thanks guys, there is a sticker on the bottom with the product key. Found this article that has links to the Digital River hosted ISOs. I don't think you can download 7 from Microsoft in any capacity any more. Would I be able to do a straight install with my current product key? It's going on the same computer so I assume it's still tied to it, or would have have to phone support? Edit: Bit slow Sir Unimaginative posted:There's the Digital River links (not the only place with the links, and the links themselves are still legit last I checked (tonight)). Pick the one for the edition your key is for and the architecture you want (for a consumer laptop, this is almost always Home Premium x64, but make sure). Language is up to you. System information said 32-bit operating system, was going to get both just in case. I assume it just wouldn't run if it was wrong, hopefully nothing worse? Nibbles! fucked around with this message at 13:49 on Dec 23, 2014 |
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Dec 23, 2014 13:41
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Nibbles! posted:Thanks guys, there is a sticker on the bottom with the product key. Most of the times I've done a full reinstall of an OEM product key (90% of the time on a Dell or HP) I have to call to activate the install afterwards, but it works with no problem. It's just a boring 5 minutes of keying in numbers and listening to a robot guy read off the response numbers.
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Dec 23, 2014 13:45
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Some work straight up and some require a call to license support, with no clear delineation between the two. The key on the bottom of the laptop is pretty much a bailout for the user, though - OEM keys in the Windows 7 days usually involved licensing information in the firmware, a per-vendor license file (which may be to dig up places, or to get the tool to retrieve it from your system from places), and a bulk key (maybe?) that Voltron together into an activated Windows environment.Since at least Windows 8.1, the firmware license is unique and phones home on first contact with the Internet. Vendors like this since instead of paying for every license they bake into a motherboard, they only have to pay when they actually come online. I don't even know if there's anything special about them anymore, except for injecting themselves into the product key line with standard Windows 8.1 install media. dont be mean to me fucked around with this message at 13:51 on Dec 23, 2014 |
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Dec 23, 2014 13:48
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Thanks everyone, appreciate it. One last question. I'm running the 32-bit version but just check performance information and it says it's 64-bit capable. Would my current key work for the 64-bit version?
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Dec 23, 2014 13:50
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Nibbles! posted:Thanks everyone, appreciate it. Yeah, Windows 7 used the same keys for 32 and 64 bit, it's just different for the different version levels (home premium, professional, ultimate, etc).
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Dec 23, 2014 13:52
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Yes, and if you can run 64-bit you absolutely should, because compression and encryption make up a lot of computer stuff these days even on a background level and go far faster on 64-bit, and x64 has an inherently stronger security model at the hardware level that it can't use with a 32-bit OS.
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Sweet. Thanks again, in that case I should have done this years ago lol
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I'm trying to move all of my data from an old HDD (Seagate, 1.5 TB) to a new one (WD Black 2 TB), but I'm having a few problems moving things - namely Windows - across. I would've been quite happy just having a fresh install of Win7 on the new HDD before migrating my stuff, but of course I have the Upgrade version of Professional and have since lost my copy of Vista. I can install Windows just fine, but it rejects my key whether entered during the Win7 install wizard or when trying to activate it in Windows proper. I am correct in assuming this is happening because the key is an Upgrade key while I just did a fresh install? Or is it because I've activated Windows on my other HDD before? Would calling Microsoft to get it activated on the new HDD do me any good? If so, the rest of my problems go away. Anyway, so my next step was to try to make a clone/image of the old HDD using Win7's 'Backup and Restore' software. The image on the new HDD matches the size of the old HDD, but when I start my computer with the old HDD unplugged and boot to the Win7 install disc in order to use the System Recovery tool and use that image, I get the following errror: Windows cannot restore a system image to a computer that has a different firmware. The system image was created on a computer using EFI and this computer is using BIOS. And I'm stumped. My mobo is a Gigabyte 870A-UD3 if that helps at all. Nothing has changed in the computer other than the HDD. Hell, I'm typing this on the computer because I just plugged my old HDD back in for now, so everything is running fine. Would it just be easier using some software to clone the drive? I tried using an Acronis trial but it didn't pick up the old HDD as something that could be copied across, instead just listing the image on the new HDD as a 'source'. I realise this probably drifts away from Windows and software issues a bit, but any help would be appreciated.
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Your Windows 7 install disc is not booting into EFI mode. If it's a DVD, it probably has to be forced into EFI mode; this requires manually selecting the boot point (usually F8 where you'd press your 'get into firmware menu' button, or you can choose a boot point from there). If it's a flash drive, it has to be created as an EFI installer, and you'll want Rufus for that (pick the one that's just for UEFI), because Microsoft's install maker and 'just copy the DVD files to a flash drive' sure as hell won't. There's a way to do it manually that's like 20 steps and I can't be bothered to look it up and just use Rufus because it's not the dark ages anymore. EDIT: Windows 8 and up do not have this problem; they actually can be copied straight over and booted in EFI or legacy BIOS mode, so long as they're FAT32. EDIT 2: Alternately a Macrium Reflect rescue USB and an external enclosure for the old hard drive (which i assume you're already using; don't make the Reflect rescue media out of it or you'll lose your backup oh god) is  .
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Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that I had poked around the BIOS boot order to look for a way to force my DVD drive to start first in UEFI but had no luck. The only UEFI option listed is my old HDD. After trying that again, I took your advice and used Rufus to make a recovery flash drive - two times, actually: once from an ISO I downloaded off Digital River and once using an ISO I made from the Win7 CD that at least allowed me to get as far as the "EFI, not BIOS" error mentioned before. In a result that is confusing and absurd, neither one of those ISOs allowed me to even get to the repair menu to use the System Recovery tool and instead immediately gave me this error when I hit 'repair' from the install splash: This version of System Recovery Options is not compatible with the version of Windows you are trying to repair. Try using a recovery disc that is compatible with this version of Windows. So the CD itself lets me at least access the repair menu, but the EUFI flash drive made from that very same CD doesn't. What. Looks like I'll need to re-clone the whole drat thing using this Macrium Reflect deal, which means I'll have to put it on the burner for a day or two because Christmas is in an hour and I need to be up early. Thanks for the help! At least I have one more lead to chase down.
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My dad is telling me to install Winpatrol as an additional security program. I already have MSE. Is Winpatrol legit? Their website looks like something from before the turn of the millenium.
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MSE is really all you need. e: holy poo poo, that website
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I just looked it up because I had to, and holy poo poo, this is bringing me back  http://www.winpatrol.com/
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Captain Invictus posted:My dad is telling me to install Winpatrol as an additional security program. I already have MSE. Is Winpatrol legit? Their website looks like something from before the turn of the millenium. It's a lovely website, but it's a legitimately useful tool. In my experience, it doesn't warn you of every thing that autostarts or installs itself as a service (Win 7 64-bit). It's a lot of stuff in one place, though, and good to have on Gramma's PC if not your own. doctorfrog fucked around with this message at 04:03 on Dec 26, 2014 |
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:I just looked it up because I had to, and holy poo poo, this is bringing me back 
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I got a surface pro 3 for christmas. MSE's download page says you can't install it on Win 8.1 pro because Windows Defender is already on there. My memories of Windows Defender are from Vista, where it was an insanely minimal mostly useless thing. Do I need separate antivirus on my new toy or is Defender good now?
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:I got a surface pro 3 for christmas. MSE's download page says you can't install it on Win 8.1 pro because Windows Defender is already on there. My memories of Windows Defender are from Vista, where it was an insanely minimal mostly useless thing. Do I need separate antivirus on my new toy or is Defender good now? Edit: Ah, no, I remembered correctly. Entropic posted:It's called Defender now in its Windows 8 incarnation.
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Defender is fine if you don't click on porno banner ads. I've never used any other AV on any of my Windows 8.1 machines and have been OK.
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GreenNight posted:Defender is fine if you don't click on porno banner ads. I've never used any other AV on any of my Windows 8.1 machines and have been OK. My first order of business was loading up on all my usual AdBlock/NoScript/Etc stuff in Firefox, so I shouldn't have any issues there. I've only had an infected computer once in my life, and that was in my much younger kazaa-using days. I think I'm going to have to make my own forums reader, though, because the one sucks and the other one doesn't do anything when I click Forums Index  .
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Just make sure that if you are using chrome, to check "enabled in incognito mode" for the plugins if you use such a thing. Before the "incognito mode doesn't do anything" crowd chimes in. I use it so potn doesn't show up in my auto complete searches.
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Cojawfee posted:Just make sure that if you are using chrome, to check "enabled in incognito mode" for the plugins if you use such a thing. Before the "incognito mode doesn't do anything" crowd chimes in. I use it so potn doesn't show up in my auto complete searches. I don't use Chrome for anything except accessing my gmail account. I've been using Firefox since it was Netscape Navigator.
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Gyshall posted:Nutscrape Navigator You laugh, but Netscape is the reason that loading indicators are called throbbers.
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:You laugh, but Netscape is the reason that loading indicators are called throbbers.
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kalstrams posted:First time I hear anyone calling them like that. Same, never heard that before.
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