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keep punching joe posted:I wonder if it will stick around, Eleven was a 20 something wearing old man clothes so why not reverse it. If they're going that way, I think his coat with the sparkly t-shirt underneath works best. Much more casual and he stops standing out.
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adhuin posted:Doctor is really He is a time alien, maybe he sees time a bit differently than us? He seemed to have moments where he slipped between seeing Amy as she was, and as she had been as a little girl despite only knowing little Amelia for a few hours. A little non-linear perception where timelords sometimes perceive people as they were, are, and may become wouldn't be totally out of line. It could even help them recognise old timelords in new faces, a thing they've been able to do some of the time.
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Am I still old? 
I dunno, you tell me. (hands mirror)
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Star Platinum posted:Re: Capaldi's Doctor, there were certainly a couple of missteps taken with his character, but I think mostly they've been able to let his "humanity" (uh, timelord-ity?) shine through in the end. Especially at the end of this episode they were really able to sell him as a "kid in an old man's body" with his childlike wonder at steering Santa's sleigh. Maybe it's just because I have it, but Twelve's clicking the most for me when he reads like he's got Asperger's. He cares, and he's got genuine feelings, he's just bad at expressing them when he needs to. He doesn't step over the line intentionally, he just doesn't realize it's there. That's probably not their intended direction for him, but it's the way that I think works the best.
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Gaz-L posted:If they're going that way, I think his coat with the sparkly t-shirt underneath works best. Much more casual and he stops standing out. By the end of the season he'll be wearing tracksuit bottoms with "Juicy" written across the arse.
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Dec 27, 2014 01:48
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SiKboy posted:By the end of the season he'll be wearing tracksuit bottoms with "Juicy" written across the arse. The Doctor is a basic bitch
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Brigadier Sockface posted:He was wearing a hoodie. Ten: The Man Who Regrets Eleven: The One Who Forgets Twelve: The One Who Stands His Ground I'll see myself out...
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TL posted:Ten: The Man Who Regrets If this joke is what I think it is, I sincerely hope that you are in a non-fatal car accident in the very near future
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TL posted:Ten: The Man Who Regrets  Oh now you've done it!
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SiKboy posted:By the end of the season he'll be wearing tracksuit bottoms with "Juicy" written across the arse. wait, wait. wait. oh, god. 
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Neowyrm posted:wait, wait. Wait, but that would make Rose the Doctor's daughter and  .
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Dec 27, 2014 04:23
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TL posted:Ten: The Man Who Regrets 
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Dec 27, 2014 04:40
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I haven't posted in a DW thread in like a year but this last season and now this Christmas special, Jesus Christ. This was the first time since the revival that I haven't made a point of setting time aside to watch the Christmas special as soon as I could. Every bit of this was just loving horrible.
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Dec 27, 2014 04:43
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This was the best Christmas special in a long time. The only thing I didn't like was the Old Clara fakeout. It would have been a great send off for her.
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Hughlander posted:Can somebody explain the reference, I'm way too tired. Trayvon Martin I think.
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Hughlander posted:Can somebody explain the reference, I'm way too tired. A Stand-Your-Ground law is a law that is an extension of the Castle Doctrine. Basically it says you can shoot someone if you feel that you face an imminent danger, wherease in Castle Doctrine states you can only shoot someone if you feel an imminent danger in your own home. George Zimmerman, the crazy dude who murdered Trayvon Martin, was defended under a Stand-Your-Ground law. Part of the media discussion about Zimmerman feeling threatened fixated on Martin wearing a Hoodie, which was perceived as threatening behaviour. Republican Vampire fucked around with this message at 07:20 on Dec 27, 2014 |
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TL posted:Ten: The Man Who Regrets Holy God.
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Dec 27, 2014 07:07
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It was nice of them to directly point out the episode's inspirations. That's pretty much the only thing I enjoyed.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:It was nice of them to directly point out the episode's inspirations. That's pretty much the only thing I enjoyed. My favourite bit was them doing their damnedest to tell the kiddies that Santa isn't real for most of the episode.
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Dec 27, 2014 08:37
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Neddy Seagoon posted:My favourite bit was them doing their damnedest to tell the kiddies that Santa isn't real for most of the episode. They had Santa admit that and say what does it matter? Because....what does it matter if Santa isn't real? Santa still saved them. Who cares if he's just a fairytale, he's a pretty good one all told.
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I've only just had a chance to watch it and catch up on the thread. I liked it as an episode but it just didn't feel very Christmas Special to me. I always think the special should be a bit more over the top/silly/magical than normal Doctor Who, that's pretty much how it's always been. RTD ones turned the camp up to 11 and Moffat ones have gone for fairy tales but either way they all have a very different feel to normal episodes (except End of Time which I always forget is a Christmas special). This one just felt like a normal episode, although it was a pretty good one. I found Shona incredibly familiar but couldn't work out why until I caught up with the thread and saw the mentions of Lucie Miller. That's really exactly it and I would totally go for her as a companion with Twelve. Anyway, the one thing that really bugged me was the emphasis on "every second you're asleep a monster is boring into your skull and eating your brains and you're dying you only have a few minutes before it really damages your brain hurry hurry hurry" but the characters still taking their time talking and running around and not seeming to care about that even after they prove to themselves that they're still dreaming. I just felt like yelling at the TV the whole time. I know they did mention something about dream time being compressed compared to real time but even then you'd think you'd want to spend as little time as possible with an alien monster literally eating your brain. I know it's just TV and it wouldn't have made such a good episode if they'd been more efficient about checking their sleep status and waking themselves up but I think the episode could have been better written to handle the issue.
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Dec 27, 2014 10:03
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Isn't already established that the Ninth Doctor is Father Christmas? "Red bicycle when you were twelve" and all that?
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I so want Shona as companion in the future. Come on, it's possible. "My. Little. Pony." "Shut up you." "Yeah? I got lots more, babe." "I WILL MARK YOU, SANTA."
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Rhyno posted:Isn't already established that the Ninth Doctor is Father Christmas? The Doctor fibs, and certainly has the means to look that sort of thing up. And besides, who says he still isn't? The Santa/Doctor dynamic had more than a hint of a The X Doctors shtick about it. And of course, that episode aired, like, nine-and-a-half years ago. That's AGES.
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The Master is Santa, (s)he does it solely because spending a day per year being kind to every child on Earth confuses the gently caress out of The Doctor. Except the off years. The off years he's Krampus.
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Dec 27, 2014 14:06
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Gaz-L posted:If they're going that way, I think his coat with the sparkly t-shirt underneath works best. Much more casual and he stops standing out. The sparkly shirt needs to be shot into the sun. Along with that blouse he wore for one ep.
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Davros1 posted:The sparkly shirt needs to be shot into the sun. Along with that blouse he wore for one ep. I guess I'm not seeing it. I've been too enthralled with Capaldi's performance that I never notice what he wears. The "magician" comments this episode were the first time I ever really noticed!
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Dec 27, 2014 14:54
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Rhyno posted:Isn't already established that the Ninth Doctor is Father Christmas? That whole exchange is one of my favourite things in all of Who, and it stands perfectly without requiring any explanation. If you want to get into explaining it though it could be a timey wimey thing where the Doctor says that, planning to later go back in time and make sure young Rose gets that bike.
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Not every throwaway joke needs an expla- There's a twenty-thousand word article about the eleven distinct explanations for Father Christmas and how to reconcile them all on the Doctor Who Wiki, isn't there?
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docbeard posted:Not every throwaway joke needs an expla- I looked it up, the Santa article is remarkably lucid for a Tardis wiki entry.
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Davros1 posted:The sparkly shirt needs to be shot into the sun. Along with that blouse he wore for one ep. Do you mean this Paul Smith jumper? 
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DoctorWhat posted:The Doctor fibs, and certainly has the means to look that sort of thing up. There's also Matt Smith mentioning hanging out with Sinatra and Santa, "or as I like to call him, Jeff" in A Christmas Carol.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:It was nice of them to directly point out the episode's inspirations. That's pretty much the only thing I enjoyed. Just because your Secret Santa was batshit crazy* doesn't mean other people can't enjoy Nick Frost playing it straight!  * Me IRL.
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I liked the most recent episode. Maybe Moffat needs to stick to one and two parters and stop doing series long story arcs (and also stop being show-runner) because all his Moffatty poo poo worked well here, in a more self contained form.
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I wish he'd at least get some story arc lessons. His idea of developing a plot over a season is for Missy to show up and wave at the camera every couple of episodes.
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2house2fly posted:I wish he'd at least get some story arc lessons. His idea of developing a plot over a season is for Missy to show up and wave at the camera every couple of episodes. Series 8's arc was not about the Master. The only thing she really did in continuation of that arc was give him the Cyberman army at the end.
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The_Doctor posted:Do you mean this Paul Smith jumper? I really hate that (no doubt hyper-expensive) hobo jumper. The only thing worse is that ghastly polka dot shirt he wore in Kill The Moon.
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After The War posted:Just because your Secret Santa was batshit crazy* doesn't mean other people can't enjoy Nick Frost playing it straight! I'm pretty sure your cd broke me.
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