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Dec 29, 2014 01:02
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fool_of_sound posted:It's this. Webcomics that actually update regularly can get away with slow periods much better. My problem is that he's bringing yet another antagonist again. When I felt the way Haley dispatched of her, with indulging a bit on being a murderous loon despite her development as a responsible leader, was fine and what'sherface influence in the story was over and done with. I know it's Burlew's story and all but Jesus move on already.
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Dec 29, 2014 01:19
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Zogundar posted:
But remember Crystal is always evenly matched with Haley, and last time she only took her out so easily because it wasn't expected and she waited until she had the advantage. Or maybe she and Elan will defeat her without a problem and Durkula will show up just in time to take out Bozzok with some more cold-blooded neck snapping action, only this time where other party members can see....and of course promptly rationalize away somehow because they're super dumb. fake edit: the comic's been out a little while now, can we stop using spoilers already?
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Dec 29, 2014 01:31
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Yes. I see Crystal as being more of a minion than an actual big boy antagonist this time around. Either that or this conflict here is just supposed to showcase how the Order has grown as a party blah blah blah and Crystal and Co get swatted down like insects.
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Dec 29, 2014 01:41
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Crystal very specifically has a gimmick where she gets stronger because her rival does. They made a joke about it. She is as strong as she needs to be to be a threat for narrative reasons.
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Dec 29, 2014 01:42
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Speaking of callbacks, I got most of the comic in book form for Christmas, so I started over from the beginning. Considering Durkon's current situation, I hope someone at some point brings this up. Bravo, Durkon, your duty got you killed, got a monster put in charge of your body, your companions save Belkar who no one listens to thinks it's you, and if a prophecy is correct, said monster's going to bring mass devastation to your homelands. But hey, you DID YOUR DUTY, RIGHT? The bamboo bends, the tree breaks.
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Dec 29, 2014 03:31
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Cornwind Evil posted:Speaking of callbacks, I got most of the comic in book form for Christmas, so I started over from the beginning. Considering Durkon's current situation, I hope someone at some point brings this up. Also: 'take your feelings and bury them in a deep, dark hole'. Like, hm, where he is right now. Re the bloated narrative - I dunno, Burlew tied off a bunch of narrative threads in the arc just gone. I'd give him the benefit of the doubt. It always reads better as a book.
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Dec 29, 2014 06:33
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ImpAtom posted:Crystal very specifically has a gimmick where she gets stronger because her rival does. They made a joke about it. She is as strong as she needs to be to be a threat for narrative reasons. Yeah but like, she was dead. Her death was very satisfying and concluded her dynamic with Haley nicely; Haley had undergone some character development and all that but she allowed herself to slip up a bit to kill her in cold blood to ensure that she wouldn't keep hounding her. I just hope he doesn't bring back Nale or Tarquin now.
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Dec 29, 2014 06:49
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Calaveron posted:Yeah but like, she was dead. Her death was very satisfying and concluded her dynamic with Haley nicely; Haley had undergone some character development and all that but she allowed herself to slip up a bit to kill her in cold blood to ensure that she wouldn't keep hounding her. Haley murdered someone in cold blood. It was, as you said, a slipup. It needed to come back to haunt her, even if she was honest with Elan about it. Her arc wasn't complete and this is literally a past mistake coming back to haunt her.
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Dec 29, 2014 06:51
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Calaveron posted:Yeah but like, she was dead. Her death was very satisfying and concluded her dynamic with Haley nicely; Haley had undergone some character development and all that but she allowed herself to slip up a bit to kill her in cold blood to ensure that she wouldn't keep hounding her. Tarquin is possible but Nale would be a stretch considering how big a deal they made of his death being permanent ("Malek's never coming back, so neither is his killer")
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Dec 29, 2014 06:51
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ImpAtom posted:Haley murdered someone in cold blood. It was, as you said, a slipup. It needed to come back to haunt her, even if she was honest with Elan about it. Her arc wasn't complete and this is literally a past mistake coming back to haunt her. It makes sense when you put it that way but Jesus there's a ton of other stuff Haley still has to deal with and the business with Crystal seems like the least important.
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Dec 29, 2014 06:57
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ImpAtom posted:Haley murdered someone in cold blood. It was, as you said, a slipup. It needed to come back to haunt her, even if she was honest with Elan about it. Her arc wasn't complete and this is literally a past mistake coming back to haunt her. How is murdering a psychopathic murder a "slipup"?
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Dec 29, 2014 07:06
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Johnny Aztec posted:How is murdering a psychopathic murder a "slipup"? She murdered her in cold blood. It's pretty clearly an issue to her and that is the reason she came clean to Elan about it. If it didn't bother her she wouldn't have cared.
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Dec 29, 2014 07:10
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The comic already established that killing evil aligned characters for no reason is perfectly acceptable. According to Miko, anyway.
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Dec 29, 2014 07:50
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No one in the history of ever has cared what Miko, or any other Lawful Stupid character, has said on any subject.
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Dec 29, 2014 08:28
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Haley's killing of Crystal was awesome and I give a hearty "gently caress you" to anyone who says otherwise. 
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Dec 29, 2014 09:03
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You're in a lawless city, and you take proactive measures against a known threat. It's cold, it's calculating, it's definitely not good, but it's justified.
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Dec 29, 2014 17:21
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ImpAtom posted:Haley murdered someone in cold blood. It was, as you said, a slipup. It needed to come back to haunt her, even if she was honest with Elan about it. Her arc wasn't complete and this is literally a past mistake coming back to haunt her. Her only mistake was in not destroying the body afterward.
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Dec 29, 2014 17:27
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Cornwind Evil posted:Speaking of callbacks, I got most of the comic in book form for Christmas, so I started over from the beginning. Considering Durkon's current situation, I hope someone at some point brings this up. In Origin of PCs, they make quite a big deal out of showing that Durkon does not know about the prophecy at all. He was sent out on a generic mission of diplomacy, and he went because he's Lawful.
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Dec 29, 2014 17:31
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ImpAtom posted:Haley murdered someone in cold blood. It looks a little different in light of the bonus story in book 4. During the raid on Grubwiggler's to recover Roy's body, Crystal and Bozzok were pretty clearly trying to take out Haley as collateral damage. Haley killing Crystal becomes a lot more justified once it's made clear that the latter will always be a threat no matter what agreements are in place. I think Rich screwed up in not making that part of the main strip (and he even says as much in the author commentary).
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Dec 29, 2014 18:27
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Also in broader terms Haley's story hasn't been resolved at all, and the whole last story arc steadily build up Haley's backstory and reminded us that the Thieves Guild are still a thing.
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Dec 29, 2014 18:49
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Wanderer posted:In Origin of PCs, they make quite a big deal out of showing that Durkon does not know about the prophecy at all. He was sent out on a generic mission of diplomacy, and he went because he's Lawful. That's also how it was depicted in the strip proper, although I don't think the prophecy's been brought up outside Origins of PCs.
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Dec 29, 2014 18:56
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Actually, killing an evil person is always good.
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Dec 29, 2014 19:44
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ANIME MONSTROSITY posted:Actually, killing an evil person is always good. Unless it going to straight up help people it's neutral at best.
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Dec 30, 2014 00:25
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Killing someone who is thoroughly at your mercy without going through the proper trial thing is generally considered a poo poo thing to do. Not an unreasonable thing if someone has written the crisis properly but still a poo poo thing.
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Dec 30, 2014 00:29
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Does it really matter in a universe where races can be born evil and won't change ever, and all evil intent can be done by a simple scan?
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Dec 30, 2014 00:34
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ANIME MONSTROSITY posted:Does it really matter in a universe where races can be born evil and won't change ever, and all evil intent can be done by a simple scan? United States of America?
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Dec 30, 2014 00:36
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ANIME MONSTROSITY posted:Does it really matter in a universe where races can be born evil and won't change ever, and all evil intent can be done by a simple scan? The topic title is literally a reference to the "please stop it with the alignment arguments" title from last thread, tia I realize it's already too late and we're all doomed to 6+ pages of  but I tried
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Dec 30, 2014 00:40
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I haven't been around in 2006 to read that title 
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Dec 30, 2014 00:42
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Dec 30, 2014 01:08
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ANIME MONSTROSITY posted:Does it really matter in a universe where races can be born evil and won't change ever, and all evil intent can be done by a simple scan? When Burlew writes it, yeah.
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Dec 30, 2014 01:40
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Yeah the normal D&D rules just serve as foil for Rich's views on the topic.
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Dec 30, 2014 01:43
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The answer is yes, as it produces happiness for you, and relative happiness, in the form of Hitler's suffering, for everyone he affected.
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Dec 30, 2014 01:48
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Is there any D&D comic that doesn't push a "Good is not the same as good" theme somewhere?
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Dec 30, 2014 02:15
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Tenebrais posted:Is there any D&D comic that doesn't push a "Good is not the same as good" theme somewhere? Rusty and Co. doesn't mention alignment at all, except for the establishment of the main "here are some monsters that are player characters" gimmick.
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Dec 30, 2014 02:47
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Shugojin posted:Killing someone who is thoroughly at your mercy without going through the proper trial thing is generally considered a poo poo thing to do. Not an unreasonable thing if someone has written the crisis properly but still a poo poo thing. That makes it Chaotic, not Evil.
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Dec 30, 2014 03:11
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Posting about alignment is an Evil act.
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Dec 30, 2014 04:09
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Murder is evil by definition, if you were killing someone in an acceptable way it wouldn't be called murder, now everyone shut up because you're all wrong.
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Dec 30, 2014 04:39
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What if you murdered Hitler huh???
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Dec 30, 2014 04:47
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quote:What if you murdered Hitler huh??? That's called loving up the time line and it's a pretty amateurish mistake! More experienced travelers are always having to go and clean up after people like you and it gets old, okay.
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Dec 30, 2014 05:12
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