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Descent 2 wasn't crap but it's more or less Descent 1 with extra gimmicks, some of which made for really annoying enemies.
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ToxicFrog posted:That Unreal map dissection is pretty neat. And it has me considering replaying Unreal. Suggestions for new engines/textures/models/whatever? All you need to do is download the 227 patch over here. Make sure you pick up the latest version, 227i. 227 includes two good renderers, allows you to play on every server out there, the ability to disable mouse smoothing, improved widescreen support, a much-better editor, and better sound support. I never replay U1 without it.
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Zeether posted:Some guy got Quake running on an oscilloscope: http://www.lofibucket.com/articles/oscilloscope_quake.html
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Of course, on the total other end of the spectrum, there is Textmode Quake. Who needs a 3d accelerator?
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ToxicFrog posted:On the other hand, it's not like being made by the same team guarantees anything about quality either -- look at Descent 2 and Homeworld 2, both terrible sequels to great games made by the same devs that made the original. Or Quake 2, Ultima Underworld 2, or Ground Control 2, which, while not terrible, were all notably worse than their predecessors. what what did i just read here Pod people invader detected, an opinion that wrong cannot be held by a real human being.
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Ok, let's explain a bit. Descent 2: it's Descent 1 with more weapons and items (great), much uglier enemies, much more confusing and harder to navigate levels requiring the addition of the idiotic guide-bot, an inability to ever clear out sections of the level due the ability of enemies to open doors, frequent, annoying arena boss fights, and a final boss that is literally impossible to kill on higher difficulty levels due to have a weak spot 0 texels wide. And a lot of the secrets are "shoot a panel somewhere on the level, and then afterburner perfectly across the entire level to the door that opens for just long enough for you to get through". Good luck even figuring out where that door is without a walkthrough, and you only get one chance. And it had the thief-bot, arguably the single most annoying enemy in the history of FPS games. Oh, and the cool mission briefings and robot/weapon information screens were replaced with the same FMV repeated once every four levels with the colour of the planet changed. I freely grant that it had a kickass soundtrack, that the opening cutscene was fantastic, and that the increased weapon variety is welcome in multiplayer, but in singleplayer it was pretty bad. (I think my ideal Descent game would be the levels and enemies from Descent 1, with the Descent 2 weapons added.) Homeworld 2: do I really need to explain this? It was a bug-riddled, poorly balanced trainwreck with a plot and dialogue written by people with severe brain damage. At least it was easier to mod than HW1. Ultima Underworld 2: the best parts of UUW2 are better than UUW1, but UUW1's huge, single interconnected dungeon was replaced with a bunch of mini-dungeons, and a lot of those mini-dungeons are entirely hack-and-slash focused, which the UUW engine honestly isn't that good at. It's not bad but I liked UUW1's slow exploration a great deal more than UUW2's "here's an isolated level, kill everything in it". UUW2 ties in more closely with the main Ultima series, but I never played any of the main Ultima games, so that doesn't really have any draw for me. closeted republican posted:All you need to do is download the 227 patch over here. Make sure you pick up the latest version, 227i. 227 includes two good renderers, allows you to play on every server out there, the ability to disable mouse smoothing, improved widescreen support, a much-better editor, and better sound support. I never replay U1 without it. 
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I kind of have a fondness for the easy to get lost in maze design of Descent 2, but I agree with you all the way on Homeworld 2. I thought it was commonly agreed that it's not anywhere near as good as the first (and Cataclysm, which is the best of the three).
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Zeether posted:Some guy got Quake running on an oscilloscope: http://www.lofibucket.com/articles/oscilloscope_quake.html Cool stuff. Interesting to see the the Gibbs style ringing in the last screenie.
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Are there any good mods based on classic monster movies? DeathWish, (and Blood as whole, really) had a few. Any hidden gems with Blood? Fun little Doom wads? Duke takes a strange turn? Descent goes into Dracula's Space Castle?
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ToxicFrog posted:(I think my ideal Descent game would be the levels and enemies from Descent 1, with the Descent 2 weapons added.) Surely the ideal Descent game was Descent To Undermountain? (To my shame this is the only "Descent" game I actually bought! Still have the manual and CD somewhere but the box is long gone)
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ookiimarukochan posted:Surely the ideal Descent game was Descent To Undermountain? (To my shame this is the only "Descent" game I actually bought! Still have the manual and CD somewhere but the box is long gone) I've never played Descent to Undermountain and don't really know anything about it.
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ToxicFrog posted:I've never played Descent to Undermountain and don't really know anything about it. The game's pretty terrible. Rushed to release before it was ready after an over-schedule development process, the final release being full of bugs and questionable level design decisions like secret walls being mandatory to progress through the stage, or the ever-classic "switch that opens a door halfway across the map without indicating as much".
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catlord posted:Are there any good mods based on classic monster movies? DeathWish, (and Blood as whole, really) had a few. Any hidden gems with Blood? Fun little Doom wads? Duke takes a strange turn? Descent goes into Dracula's Space Castle? there was a duke mod of The Shining, but it was... well, something.
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catlord posted:Are there any good mods based on classic monster movies? DeathWish, (and Blood as whole, really) had a few. Any hidden gems with Blood? Fun little Doom wads? Duke takes a strange turn? Descent goes into Dracula's Space Castle? Alien TC for Doom — the best Alien game up until Alien: Isolation was released. 
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Colon Semicolon posted:there was a duke mod of The Shining, but it was... well, something. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlmifgA8BC4
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Shadow Hog posted:LGR has you covered. That actually fits the source material to a T.
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Colon Semicolon posted:there was a duke mod of The Shining, but it was... well, something. I have that one, actually. That is an odd one. But props on recreating the Overlook Hotel pretty well, for the most part. Tippis posted:Alien TC for Doom - the best Alien game up until Alien: Isolation was released. Last time I tried it, all the parts were split up and needed to be put in the right order and I wasn't sure what it was. Is there a nice packaged version for ZDoom like there is for the Dawn of the Dead TC? I've been playing around with Konta Kommando's Aliens mod, the just released survival horror one, and I'm having fun with it.
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catlord posted:Last time I tried it, all the parts were split up and needed to be put in the right order and I wasn't sure what it was. Is there a nice packaged version for ZDoom like there is for the Dawn of the Dead TC? I've been playing around with Konta Kommando's Aliens mod, the just released survival horror one, and I'm having fun with it. I was hoping that someone else would be able to point in the right direction because the last time I tried, I utterly failed to assemble a working game.  So no.
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This seems to mostly be working right, just add doom.wad and pick a batch file. There's a couple of bugs, but they seem to merely be bugs in the original version too.
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Here, I'll help you. I've assembled together the fixed by Quasar version of Aliens TC, Freedoom IWAD (the 4-episode one, mimicking Ultimate Doom), and GLBoom+. Works straight from the box after unzipping and running alien.bat It's the second episode that has the main campaign, the first one crashes, and the third has some bonus maps. https://www.dropbox.com/s/p9urrotuc6rhsre/atcud20.zip?dl=0 For further reference, the commandline for sourceport is code:edit: aaand beaten to the punch, with much more effective solution
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My favorite 90s red book industrial buttrock soundtracks are Starsiege and Mechwarrior 2/Mercenaries.
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catlord posted:Are there any good mods based on classic monster movies? DeathWish, (and Blood as whole, really) had a few. Any hidden gems with Blood? Fun little Doom wads? Duke takes a strange turn? Descent goes into Dracula's Space Castle? While not a mod, it might fit the bill, and I'd argue that it's not entirely out of place in this thread (despite being released in 2003) - have you played Nosferatu: The Wrath of Malachi? It's a first-person shooter/swordfighter/crucifix-er set in the murky Transylvanian locale of Castle Malachi. The player must race the clock to rescue various family members scattered throughout the castle, all the while fighting off the castle's gothic vampire residents. The game's definitely clunky in some areas, but mixes things up (literally) by re-arranging the rooms and enemies in each wing of the castle with each play-through to keep you on your toes. It's currently 75%-off on Steam, bringing the price to $2.49 - I've certainly gotten at least that much value out of it, so I'd recommend it for anyone interested. Has anyone else here played it? Alehkhs fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Dec 31, 2014 |
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laserghost posted:Here, I'll help you. I've assembled together the fixed by Quasar version of Aliens TC, Freedoom IWAD (the 4-episode one, mimicking Ultimate Doom), and GLBoom+. Works straight from the box after unzipping and running alien.bat It's the second episode that has the main campaign, the first one crashes, and the third has some bonus maps. Huh. For some reason this is the only one that works for me. I don't know why, either. It's the only one with the right graphics. Alehkhs posted:While not a mod, but I'd argue it's not entirely out of place in this thread (despite being released in 2003) - have you played Nosferatu: The Wrath of Malachi? Yeah, that game's fantastic. It looks like rear end, but it can still be eerie. It can be a little rough, especially at the start since so few weapons are particularly good, and it's a little clunky overall, but I'd recommend it.
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Luigi Thirty posted:My favorite 90s red book industrial buttrock soundtracks are Starsiege and Mechwarrior 2/Mercenaries. Descent 2 wins because it was done by Type O Negative and one of the guys from Skinny Puppy.
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Elliotw2 posted:This seems to mostly be working right, just add doom.wad and pick a batch file. There's a couple of bugs, but they seem to merely be bugs in the original version too. laserghost posted:Here, I'll help you. I've assembled together the fixed by Quasar version of Aliens TC, Freedoom IWAD (the 4-episode one, mimicking Ultimate Doom), and GLBoom+. Works straight from the box after unzipping and running alien.bat It's the second episode that has the main campaign, the first one crashes, and the third has some bonus maps.  To both of you. It's always been those dehacked parts that I never got to work on modern ports. Perhaps because I always tried to make it automated and fancy rather than just doing it the old-fashioned .bat way.
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Luigi Thirty posted:My favorite 90s red book industrial buttrock soundtracks are Starsiege and Mechwarrior 2/Mercenaries. Quake 2 and Descent 2 are my favorites. 
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Speaking of buttrock, is there a list of all the songs in the jukebox wad for Demonsteele? I wonder how hard it would be to make a similar wad using the real songs instead of midi renditions.
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Segmentation Fault posted:Speaking of buttrock, is there a list of all the songs in the jukebox wad for Demonsteele? I wonder how hard it would be to make a similar wad using the real songs instead of midi renditions.
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I wonder what'll come out of this... what could come out of this?
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Well, it'd be nifty if other source ports added in support for the lightmaps, I guess?
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Thyrork posted:I wonder what'll come out of this... what could come out of this? People wanting to play with lightmaps in their architecture starting to make Strife maps for a while, at least until the feature gets adopted by GZDoom, GLBoom, or Doomsday and they resume only ever making Doom II maps like before.
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Segmentation Fault posted:Speaking of buttrock, is there a list of all the songs in the jukebox wad for Demonsteele? I wonder how hard it would be to make a similar wad using the real songs instead of midi renditions. Very easy, I tried to make the metal jukebox as moddable as possible. Just edit the Language entry to change song titles, and import any music you want to replace the existing songs. Neither have server protection, so you can easily make your own variations and still join existing Zandronum servers with it. I doubt it works in ZDoom multiplayer, but you probably shouldn't be using this for ZDoom multiplayer anyway. Come the next build, I'll include commonfuncs as well so people can edit the ACS as they please--I forgot to and Kinsie had to let me know about it. WHOOPS.
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Nine years after my Enemy Territory kick reached its peak, I finally decide to play RtCW. I'm not sure how I missed this because it's pretty good! Oh, also German architecture was apparently built by/for giants 
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Mak0rz posted:Nine years after my Enemy Territory kick reached its peak, I finally decide to play RtCW. I'm not sure how I missed this because it's pretty good! They recaptured a lot of the RTCW feel with the new Wolfenstein, too. So long as they let Machinegames make the sequel, the series is in good hands.
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Dominic White posted:They recaptured a lot of the RTCW feel with the new Wolfenstein, too. So long as they let Machinegames make the sequel, the series is in good hands. I have no idea what I want Machine Games to do next. The New Order 2? Quake 5? Studio politics would keep it from happening, but I am absolutely sure they could make a fantastic Duke Nukem game. I'm am 100% sure that whatever it is would be super cool, though. TNO is on sale, by the way. The fact that more recent shooters keep getting the awards is a loving travesty.
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Oh man a Duke Nukem game made in the same vein as Wolfenstein without the baggage of 3D Realms would be amazing
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catlord posted:I have no idea what I want Machine Games to do next. The New Order 2? Quake 5? Studio politics would keep it from happening, but I am absolutely sure they could make a fantastic Duke Nukem game. I'm am 100% sure that whatever it is would be super cool, though. It's on sale for 66% off and is still $25, when did PC games get more expensive than console ones  Or are PS4 games now selling for $90 and I just haven't noticed? As for their next project, what I'd really like to see from them is Blood 3. Or Dark Forces 2 -- as in, a pure shooter in the vein of Dark Forces without all the jedi stuff that was added from DF2 onwards.
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ToxicFrog posted:It's on sale for 66% off and is still $25, when did PC games get more expensive than console ones On my Steam, The New Order is selling for $20.39 at 66% off from $59.99
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ToxicFrog posted:Or Dark Forces 2 Dual wielding concussion rifles. 
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