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Rorus Raz posted:So did the GOP/Tea Party just corrupt their up-and-comers with a lunacy that turns them off to the general public, or are they just unable to find any new candidates besides this aging cast of white guys?
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euphronius posted:Presidential threads are the best DNd has to offer.
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Idaho was once home to a state rep named Helen Chenoweth. Chenoweth is famous for statements like "salmon aren't threatened, I see them in cans all the time" and "there aren't many minorities in Idaho because it is too cold." Chenoweth was an ardent crusader against seat belt and helmet laws. She died in a collision when she was not wearing a seat belt. Her soul was flung free of the crash and ascended to heaven. Idaho's state song begins "Here we have Idaho, making her way to fame."
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Yeah remember the first debate lol. And in the end of didn't matter because Obama is horrible.
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FactsAreUseless posted:Idaho was once home to a state rep named Helen Chenoweth. Chenoweth is famous for statements like "salmon aren't threatened, I see them in cans all the time" and "there aren't many minorities in Idaho because it is too cold." did she fistbump Jorg Haider as she floated to Fascist Car Crash Valhalla
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R. Mute posted:so it'll be a slightly less overwhelming repeat of 2008, but with equally insane primaries. that's nice to know. More moderates this time, though. 2012 had Mitt and a dozen wackjobs. 2016 is gonna have probably half and half wackjobs and Serious People. Whether this is good or bad for their chances is debateable. More moderates (and boy does it feel weird to call people like Jeb the moderate options) might mean a better shot for the Republicans to get a halfway decent candidate, but if they split the moderate vote long enough, it could also allow their electorally-untenable wackjobs to stay in the race longer. R. Mute posted:same thing for latino voters and how they'll treat marco rubio in the primaries difference between rubio and cruz is that Rubio had decent support among cuban-americans and had some chance of extending this to other latinos with his softening on immigration. whereas latinos hate Ted Cruz and will always hate Ted Cruz because he is terrible. Also Rubio is handsome whereas Cruz has the world's worst face. Rubio was the latino presidential candidate the GoP needed, but (fortunately) not the latino presidential candidate they deserve. His presidential hopes might be more-or-less nixed for now, but he'd probably make a fine Veep pick for some fat old white nominee.
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it still loving disturbs me that Rubio and Cruz are the same age it's like cruz shot lightning from his hands at obama during the state of the union and obama turned it back on him power ... unlimited legislative power ...
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R. Mute posted:they're going to hammer clinton on bill's infidelity while wondering why women won't vote for them and it will be funny I don't think fox news making republican dad jokes about *snickers* beejays constitutes hammering.
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PupsOfWar posted:More moderates this time, though. 2012 had Mitt and a dozen wackjobs. 2016 is gonna have probably half and half wackjobs and Serious People. quote:difference between rubio and cruz is that Rubio had decent support among cuban-americans and had some chance of extending this to other latinos with his softening on immigration.
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syscall girl posted:I don't think fox news making republican dad jokes about *snickers* beejays constitutes hammering.
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ughhhhhhhh also boogie nights is a real good movie. man don cheadle owns.
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share your feelings, warszawa e: not just your totally correct feelings about don cheadle
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R. Mute posted:like... who do you count as a moderate besides maybe jeb and mitt? Scott Walker, John Kasich, Mike Pence, George Pataki.
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Joementum posted:Scott Walker, John Kasich, Mike Pence, George Pataki.
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Jeb Bush is a moderate in that George W Bush was at the time considered a moderate. Makes you think. Not really I'm going home to play video games
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My Imaginary GF posted:...ceterum censeo Saint Louis esse delendam.
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R. Mute posted:one mitt romney and three jon huntsmen? Yeah, but consider that there's a good chance the Obama coalition doesn't turn out in 2016.
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Compassionate conservatism.
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R. Mute posted:like... who do you count as a moderate besides maybe jeb and mitt? mitt's unelectable and now has no way of getting out of the primaries Deep in R'yleh, Nixon stirs
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Joementum posted:Yeah, but consider that there's a good chance the Obama coalition doesn't turn out in 2016.
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Joementum posted:Yeah, but consider that there's a good chance the Obama coalition doesn't turn out in 2016. I'm pretty confident Hillary will be able to build a motivated coalition in 2016 (and yes I'd like Warren better, but I think most everyone will hold their noses and vote realpolitik). Whereas it will take a political Napoleon to build a coalition for the Republicans. mooyashi posted:Deep in R'yleh, Nixon stirs ...and with strange aeons even scandals may die.
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Mecca-Benghazi posted:Idk people said this in 2012 and he somehow increased his share of the minority vote Yeah, but Obama was on the ballot in 2012.
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I bet Ron Paul won't win
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To be clear, I think Hillary wins in 2016, but if the minority vote turnout is close to what it was in any election except 2008 or 2012, she loses.
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well, Gawker cracked the case of who Dunham's rapist was spoiler brietbart is full of loving idiots
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Joementum posted:To be clear, I think Hillary wins in 2016, but if the minority vote turnout is close to what it was in any election except 2008 or 2012, she loses. isn't there a non-white vp she can go for? or does she need an Old White Man like obama did to make her acceptable?
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R. Mute posted:isn't there a non-white vp she can go for? or does she need an Old White Man like obama did to make her acceptable? In theory, Julian Casto got the HUD Secretary job for exactly this reason. Cory Booker and Deval Patrick would also be reasonable minority VP choices. She'll probably pick a white dude.
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R. Mute posted:you gotta consider that obama's presidency pushed racial issues even further to the foreground than in the years before. the minority vote turnout may not be as great as in 2008-2012, but i reckon it'll be close enough. Many are hoping for Julian Castro, former (extremely popular and successful) San Antonio Mayor and current HUD secretary. He's cool and charismatic, but she might want somebody with more clout. Deval Patrick is another possibility. She might end up needing a white guy, but she probably shouldn't pick a particularly old one given her own age. Warner or Tim Kaine could be good compromise picks, being bland, experienced and not ancient.
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I support whichever candidate promises to do his best to get Edward Snowden renditioned and interred in Guantanamo. (My New Year's resolutions lead to me becoming politically softer, so I'll stop requesting the death penalty for Snowden once the candidates are announced.)
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You Almost made me mad randler
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Ich bin sehr bose!
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Edwards Snowden was a willing instrument in illegal attacks on the privacy of millions of people. He just has the bad luck of being the one guy where the interests of people who want to see those guys punished and the interest of large parts of the American political scene actually align when it comes to punishment. (Though the reasons why he should be punished probably diverge.)  The fact that he caused the media to bring more publicity to the already known espionage programs of the United States is not a migitating factor for his crimes. While there are probably people more deserving of harsh and possibly extrajudical punishment, he is the only one who might actually realistically get some. Randler fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Dec 31, 2014 |
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euphronius posted:Compassionate conservatism. That ill fated combination of words always makes me think of The Handmaid's Tale for some reason.
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Ill fated? It was Karl roves greatest success aside from Maybe 2003 Iraq
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I'll say it: I don't really want to vote for Hillary Clinton.
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Jerry Seinfeld aged badly
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Benededict cumberpatch as Alan Turing is amazing.
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StandardVC10 posted:I'll say it: I don't really want to vote for Hillary Clinton. You don't have to. I never voted for Barack Obama and never would.
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PupsOfWar posted:More moderates this time, though. 2012 had Mitt and a dozen wackjobs. 2016 is gonna have probably half and half wackjobs and Serious People. Is there a functional difference these days? I mean, what policy are you going to see from the whackjobs that won't be identical to the Serious People?
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