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Joementum posted:To be clear, I think Hillary wins in 2016, but if the minority vote turnout is close to what it was in any election except 2008 or 2012, she loses. it'd have to drop off by a good bit; whites made up 81% of the electorate in 2000 and gore still won the popular vote. voter id laws alone won't cut it
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To be honest, I'm still kind of amazed that we have a President named "Barack Hussein Obama".
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Is there a functional difference these days? I mean, what policy are you going to see from the whackjobs that won't be identical to the Serious People? At this point it's mainly a difference of tone and "respectability".
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Dec 31, 2014 02:22
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:At this point it's mainly a difference of tone and "respectability". I mean, gently caress, I'd almost rather see a tea partier who's going to appoint a bunch of ideological nutjobs rather than a Serious Person who's going to resurrect the same network that produced Rumsfeld and Cheney. Eh, who are we kidding. They both draw from the same support groups.
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Joementum posted:You don't have to. I never voted for Barack Obama and never would. Your vote doesn't count though.
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if i ever get my own baking show and i'm sure it'll happen one day, it will be called baking with expletives i'm never taking requests again. gently caress passion fruit, worst fruit out there.
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Oh Joe, you were on the McCain pain train weren't you?
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R. Mute posted:if i ever get my own baking show and i'm sure it'll happen one day, it will be called baking with expletives I'd watch this.
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StandardVC10 posted:I'll say it: I don't really want to vote for Hillary Clinton. mind telling this to uspol tomorrow morning? I need something to do for the half day of work and trolling the democrat diehards is always fun
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bernie 4 prez
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R. Mute posted:if i ever get my own baking show and i'm sure it'll happen one day, it will be called baking with expletives white people did this
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Dec 31, 2014 03:01
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joe not voting democratic reminds me most of olbermann's 'as a journalist i shall not vote' thing
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that's terrible. my show wouldn't play it for laughs. it'd just be me getting angrier and angrier at ingredients, violently smashing eggs, occasionally giving up mid-recipe, listening and singing along to eighties and nineties music while cooking, forgetting parts of the recipe only to realise it later on and try to improvise my way around it, etc. you know, baking.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:mind telling this to uspol tomorrow morning? I need something to do for the half day of work and trolling the democrat diehards is always fun I swore off that thread sometime before the November elections after self-righteous education derail #2,366
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fade5 posted:Here's a nice TL;DR for you: That pretty much nourishes all of my interest in that particular dealio. Thanks.  Sharkie posted:I would honestly consider voting for Santorum in a primary for this reason alone. For the republicans in 2016, gay marriage isn't just going to be a wedge issue, it's going to be a plastic explosive issue, violently splitting the candidates from each other, and from their base.  Gonna have to use that one at some point. Mecca-Benghazi posted:flashback to last night but Inuktitut syllabics is just the coolest writing system.  Randler posted:Edwards Snowden was a willing instrument in illegal attacks on the privacy of millions of people. He just has the bad luck of being the one guy where the interests of people who want to see those guys punished and the interest of large parts of the American political scene actually align when it comes to punishment. (Though the reasons why he should be punished probably diverge.) Kill the messenger, then? StandardVC10 posted:I'll say it: I don't really want to vote for Hillary Clinton. Just don't. You have my permission. I don't plan on voting for a Democrat unless they choose a really, really good one. Which they won't. So there.
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The Warszawa posted:joe not voting democratic reminds me most of olbermann's 'as a journalist i shall not vote' thing I can sort of buy that McCain/Palin is the presidency we deserved and would have been such a shitshow that the GOP wouldn't have a leg to stand on. B-Rock isn't going to do what you imagined he said he'd do, etc.
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syscall girl posted:I can sort of buy that McCain/Palin is the presidency we deserved and would have been such a shitshow that the GOP wouldn't have a leg to stand on. That simply isn't how the system works. How many times now has it seemed like one major party or the other has been totally discredited in the eyes of the American public?
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Dec 31, 2014 03:20
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Dec 31, 2014 03:21
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Dec 31, 2014 03:22
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quick name a good talk show host and charlie rose doesn't count
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conan o'brien because he's actually good at interviewing guests and i like the whole 'conan is a dick to his staff' thing
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Just don't. You have my permission. I don't plan on voting for a Democrat unless they choose a really, really good one. Which they won't. So there. The outcome for California's presidential vote is very seldom in doubt. Nobody who runs for local office where I live is remotely sympathetic to my politics. But a Democratic supermajority is the fragile glue that keeps the state from totally disintegrating so I'll keep straight-ticket D there.
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R. Mute posted:jimmy fallon is a terrible talk show host remember that old snl sketch with chris farley as the nervous, underprepared talk show host? at what point did lorne michaels/nbc think hey that's actually not a bad idea?
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Raskolnikov38 posted:quick name a good talk show host Bill Moyers
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Sharkie posted:Bill Moyers Tavis Smiley Phil Ponce Charlie Rose
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excuse me you made a mistake and didnt post this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnIMCpevwTs
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Joementum posted:To be honest, I'm still kind of amazed that we have a President named "Barack Hussein Obama".  Oh, and he killed Bin Laden. I even get to watch Republicans try "the 90's redux" as a political platform in 2015/2016, complete with Monica Lewinsky, Vince Foster, and cattle futures. Oh this poo poo is gonna be so much fun. 
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My Imaginary GF posted:Charlie Rose  what did I just say
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so you have a guest on fallon's show and he or she is telling a story and it's obviously building up to a punchline and just before we get there jimmy fallon swoops in and steals the punchline, just straight up steals the punchline. gently caress jimmy fallon.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:
So you just said....
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:At this point it's mainly a difference of tone and "respectability". pretty much yeah. Serious People Republicans -> Republicans who won't cackle maniacally as they shovel poor/colored people into the coal furnace. Also somebody with enough political credentials and vetting that we can be confident they won't freak out and bomb Andorra for impounding some American tourist's car, or appoint Joel Osteen as secretary of the Interior. Joementum posted:To be honest, I'm still kind of amazed that we have a President named "Barack Hussein Obama". I'll admit that I was in the "man, no way enough people will vote for a black dude with a funny foreign name" camp until exit polling data started coming out.
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R. Mute posted:so you have a guest on fallon's show and he or she is telling a story and it's obviously building up to a punchline and just before we get there jimmy fallon swoops in and steals the punchline, just straight up steals the punchline. gently caress jimmy fallon. "Celebrities read mean tweets" is fun; mostly because Jimmy Fallon has very little to do with it.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:"Celebrities read mean tweets" is fun; mostly because Jimmy Fallon has very little to do with it.
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R. Mute posted:i mean, fallon steals punchlines, but i don't think he'd steal segments from jimmy kimmel. Woops! Got my Jimmies confused! 
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StandardVC10 posted:The outcome for California's presidential vote is very seldom in doubt. Nobody who runs for local office where I live is remotely sympathetic to my politics. But a Democratic supermajority is the fragile glue that keeps the state from totally disintegrating so I'll keep straight-ticket D there. well i've got some bad news for you (hopefully it'll be back after 2016!!)
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Inuktitut syllabics is just the coolest writing system.  Also, Joementum posted:To be honest, I'm still kind of amazed that we have a President named "Barack Hussein Obama".
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Exclamation Marx posted:greg proops loves hillary and it kind of bums me out I listened to that guys podcast once. Once.
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Mecca-Benghazi posted:...it's Cree
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:well i've got some bad news for you (hopefully it'll be back after 2016!!) Yeah I know.  Hopefully we won't run out of money in the interim.
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