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Here's something I was really curios about in the Christmas episode. the headcrabs have some kind of stalk thing coming from their bodies which I assume is reproductive. When they face hugged Clara, the Doctor and others, were they also forcing the faces to felate them? Is this really the first time we see the Doctor involved in a sex scene?
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Bicyclops posted:Listen, how much more obvious do I have to be here? A television show about a time traveling spaceman in a blue box that lasts for 50 years. A bunch of people talking up a set of radio dramas. A poster who actually dresses in the colored coat from the show. People who write hundreds of words about reviews for the show, every episode. A guy with an Oscar the Grouch avatar that hates Moffat so much, he may actually be on fire. You think that's air you're breathing? The top is still spinning, and apparently I'm the only construct friendly enough to just tell you: you have to wake up before it's too late. You... you've convinced me, I'm going to- notices small bead of sweat falling down the side of Bicyclops' face 
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scraps69 posted:Here's something I was really curios about in the Christmas episode. the headcrabs have some kind of stalk thing coming from their bodies which I assume is reproductive. When they face hugged Clara, the Doctor and others, were they also forcing the faces to felate them? 
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Jerusalem posted:You... you've convinced me, I'm going to- CONSIDER THIS A DIVORCE
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scraps69 posted:Here's something I was really curios about in the Christmas episode. the headcrabs have some kind of stalk thing coming from their bodies which I assume is reproductive. When they face hugged Clara, the Doctor and others, were they also forcing the faces to felate them? FACE FULL OF ALIEN WING WONG.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrxlbLVcpqI 
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I couldn't find a good enough gif of that version.
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scraps69 posted:Here's something I was really curios about in the Christmas episode. the headcrabs have some kind of stalk thing coming from their bodies which I assume is reproductive. When they face hugged Clara, the Doctor and others, were they also forcing the faces to felate them? No more. 
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Bicyclops posted:A guy with an Oscar the Grouch avatar that hates Moffat so much, he may actually be on fire.  The real evidence this is all a dream is that I really, really liked this episode.
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CobiWann posted:No more. I want to see what the Galifreyan tractor that tyre comes from looks like.
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I might have a problem. Lately I've been listening to 4th doctor adventures, which were surprisingly good. More passive Doctor and Action packed Leela fit very well together. I haven't actually seen any of the old serials, but I can Imagine Leela being all:  But this is what I "see" when listening to the Doctor:  Can't help it. 4th Doctor IS an Old Man for me, not the dashing scarf-wielding hero. 
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adhuin posted:I haven't actually seen any of the old serials, but I can Imagine Leela being all: Luckily, there's a cure for that. Usually we start you off on a course of Robots of Death , then choose the treatment according to your response.
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After The War posted:Luckily, there's a cure for that. Usually we start you off on a course of Robots of Death , then choose the treatment according to your response. Don't you mean Robots...OF DEATH! *twang*?
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Well it was the best Moffat episode since the 50th. Which was the best Moffat episode since series five. Also I looked up the wikipedia list of Doctor Who serials page to confirm this, and I see that next series there will be an episode written by a woman, for the first time since the Sontaran two-parter in 2008.
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marktheando posted:Well it was the best Moffat episode since the 50th. Which was the best Moffat episode since series five. That is really cool! I'm not familiar with any of her work (which does seem to include a lot of Torchwood, unfortunately), but hopefully it'll be a great one so that they can invite her back for more.
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Bicyclops posted:That is really cool! I'm not familiar with any of her work (which does seem to include a lot of Torchwood, unfortunately), but hopefully it'll be a great one so that they can invite her back for more. She did at least write some of Torchwood's better episodes (which is to say, the ones that haven't since been banned by the Geneva Convention.)
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docbeard posted:She did at least write some of Torchwood's better episodes (which is to say, the ones that haven't since been banned by the Geneva Convention.) This is what's meant by torchwood being "beyond the United Nations".
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 On the planet Cray, it's game time. The Gora and the Lineen are set to face off in the grudge match to end all grudge matches. The players are limbering up, the commentators are preparing, the fans are daubing themselves in their team's colours. The arena is set, and the kick-off is approaching. When the Doctor and Nyssa arrive, however, they find that Naxy is a sport that anyone can play - whether they want to or not. Cray's entire future depends on the match's outcome, but the time travellers soon realise that it is anything but just a game. Peter Davison is the Doctor in The Game. X X X X X Cast Peter Davison (The Doctor) Sarah Sutton (Nyssa) William Russell (Lord Darzil Carlisle) Ursula Burton (Ambassador Faye Davis) Robert Curbishley (Ockle Dirr) Gregory Donaldson (Coach Bela Destry) Christopher Ellison (Morian) Andrew Lothian (Hollis Az) Jonathan Pearce(Garny Diblick) Dickon Tolson (Coach Sharz Sevix) Written By: Darin Henry Directed By: Gary Russell Trailer - http://www.bigfinish.com/releases/popout/the-game-232 X X X X X Once upon a time, Doctor Who serials were often longer than an hour. Since 2005, episodes of Doctor Who have stuck to the standard hour long episode format…well, in America, it’s 44 minutes plus 16 minutes of commercials and bumpers…and in Britain, isn’t it 45 minutes of uninterrupted narrative and plot followed by a commercial or two, or the BBC continuity announcer, or another episode of Eastenders?…screw it, it’s an hour long episode for the purposes of this introduction. Since 2005, episodes of Doctor Who have stuck to the standard hour long episode format, with the obvious exceptions of episodes like the Christmas stories or the Year of David Tennant Specials. During the classic era, however, the length of each serial varied, both in terms of the number of episodes that made up each story as well as the run time of each episode. The Second Doctor’s final serial, The War Games, ran an astonishing TEN episodes of 25 minutes each, while Inferno, with Jon Pertwee, was made up of seven 25 minute episodes. The Sixth Doctor would see several of his stories run over two 45 minute episodes, and by the end of the classic run the Seventh Doctor would star in adventures composed of three 25 minute episodes. There are various reasons for the varying length and runtimes of stories, including budget concerns, expanding or contracting a story to fill a timeslot, limited availability of actors and crew, or just plain old executive meddling. Sometimes, a story with a long runtime would allow the writers to flesh out secondary characters and tell a story with all the necessary parts, but there was also the risk of filling any “empty” runtime with unnecessary subplots or scenes, such as the Doctor escaping at the beginning of an episode, only to be recaptured a few minutes later with no necessary plot advancement. A story with a short runtime goes by quickly as tells its story, but a rushed production could mean less-than-ideal takes get put into the final product, or a subplot is glossed over to the viewer’s confusion. For the most part, Big Finish has stuck to a general format. The stories of the main range stick to a four-episode layout, with episode runtimes that have varied from 21 minutes to 33 minutes. There have been a few exceptions, such as the two hour-long episodes that made up the finale of the Eighth Doctor’s second season, Neverland and the multi-episode mess that was Zagreus, as well as the Eighth Doctor Adventures and the Fourth Doctor Adventures being comprised of two “30” minute episodes for each story, to more closely match the pacing of the revival episodes to draw and hold the interest of new listeners to Big Finish. The Game plays out over six episodes, as the Doctor and Nyssa find themselves on a planet where civil war has been reduced to a violent game that encompasses every aspect of society. Over the first four episodes, the story is engaging enough, but it quickly takes a 90 degree turn to become a completely different story with an out-of-the-blue villain, throwing away the buildup from the first four episodes. It’s very rare for the Doctor to talk about those he admires and looks up to. So when he decides to take Nyssa on a trip to meet one of the greatest peace negotiators in the history of the galaxy, Lord Drazil Carlisle, on the eve of his final peace treaty, Nyssa worries about the fact that “we’re going to a war for a holiday!” But it’s not your normal, everyday run-of-the-mill war that Lord Carlisle is trying to settle. Warfare on the planet Cray isn’t fought with conventional weapons between opposing armies, but rather with curved sticks between opposing teams in a brutal, lethal game called Naxy. The Doctor soon finds himself drawn onto the pitch, torn between fighting for his life and saving the lives of players on both teams. And Nyssa soon finds out that not only is an outside force attempting to sabotage the peace negotiations in an effort to keep Naxy a legitimate sport, but Lord Carlisle, Cray’s best hope for peace, isn’t remotely what he seems… Violence as entertainment is familiar ground for Doctor Who. The very idea of murder for sport or harm for pleasure is against the very nature of the Doctor. The concept conjures up thoughts of the Ninth Doctor stories The Long Game and Bad Wolf, or perhaps a classic tale of the Sixth Doctor, Vengeance on Varos. In the CD liner notes for The Game, writer Darin Henry states that it was his wish to try his hand at a six-episode audio adventure as a throwback to the days of the classic series. It’s a weird writing choice for him to make, as he writing credits are comprised largely of American sitcoms, including a few episodes (22 minutes in length) for Futurama and Seinfeld. With experience focused more on shorter, one-off episodes, it feels like Henry has bitten off more than he can chew by going with six episodes. As a whole, The Game clocks in at just under two hours, but in trying to expand the various plots over six episodes, Henry loses sight of exactly what type of story he’s trying to tell. Considering the popularity of football in the United Kingdom as well as football in the United States, the concept of a competitive sport, with fatal “retirements” and pre-game shows akin to Match of the Day or Sunday NFL Countdown is one that should resonate with listeners from the very beginning of the story. It’s the love and passion football fans have for the game and their clubs/teams (and by the way, go Steelers! Kings in the North! Beat Baltimore!) that makes Naxy ring familiar with listeners, especially the talk off the pitch/field of endorsements, salaries, and personal records. Henry bounces back and forth between the on-field action, the play-by-play, the behind the scenes training, and touching upon the rabid fanbase. If the story had been solely about the violence of Naxy and how the brutality has become commonplace, even celebrated, with no immediate end in sight, than The Game would have fit right in with the pacifistic tendencies of the Fifth Doctor. On the Naxy side of the ball, the acting is on the high side of passable. Andrew Lothian and Dickon Tolson play rival Naxy players, with Lothian playing superstar Hollis as the “jerk on field, decent fellow off of it” type and Tolson as the “on the losing end with one last chance to turn the season around” player-coach Sharz. Both do fine even though at times it’s tough to tell the two characters apart even when they’re on opposing sides of the pitch. Gregory Donaldson (long of the BBC series The Bill plays the desperate Lineen coach Destry who turns out to have a larger stake in Naxy than anyone knows. Well known BBC football announcer Jonathan Pearce plays the part of Naxy announcer Garny Diblick exactly as one expects, adding a sense of drama and urgency to the otherwise “gotta kill em all” Naxy proceedings. His death scene is a standout moment of dark humor as well. Where Henry goes a bit too far is by adding in the subplots regarding Lord Carlisle and the sudden emergence of intergalactic crime lord Morian, with both tying into the main plot in substantial ways. Just one of these subplots would have been a fine addition to the story. There could have been time for development of plot and characters as well as adding a suitable twist to the Naxy proceedings. But instead, the more interesting subplot of the two gets completely overshadow by the “out of nowhere” nature of the other. While hints of a shadow broadcast are evident from the very beginning, the entrance of Christopher Ellison’s Morian comes almost completely out of nowhere, save for a one-scene setup of a strange beast wandering the outer ring road around the Naxy stadium. All of a sudden, brutal alien beasts are tearing fans and players (as well as the announcer) apart and Morian is gloating about how everything that’s happened was just part of his big plan to capture the Doctor’s TARDIS and use it to bet on sports events armed with future knowledge of the outcomes. On one hand, the simplicity of Morian’s plan is refreshing; no unmaking the universe, no revenge on the Doctor, no finding out why God exists in the center of the universe, just using a time machine to get stinking rich. On the other hand, Morian’s entrance simply screams “LOOK AT ME, I’M A GRAND VILLAIN, AREN’T I JUST SWELL?” There’s no foreshadowing, no build up, no sense of making him a minor menace. He just shows up like he owns the place. For all his flaws, at least Nimrod from the Forge audios had a proper buildup. Handy wroter Morian as if he was returning after being previously defeated by the Doctor and ends up getting away so the Doctor would come across him again…which, as of 2015, hasn’t yet happened in Big Finish. The other subplot was much more interesting and one I would have loved to have spent more time to watch it develop. Lord Darzil Carlisle is played by none other than William Russell, aka Ian Chesterson, aka one of the very first companions to set foot inside the TARDIS all the way back in An Unearthly Child. Russell has had a long and storied acting career, from Blackadder to Coronation Street, as well as working with Big Finish on several Companion Chronicles. He even played the First Doctor in 2013’s superb The Light at the End. Russell was supposed to appear on television opposite the Fifth Doctor in The Marwyn Undead, but scheduling conflicts got in the way. In what is The Game’s high point, Russell plays a character who is praised to the rafters, but has a deep secret. All the diplomatic work he’s done, all the peace he’s brought, all the treaties he’s forged…they’ve all been a lie. Even though this is the first time the Doctor has met Lord Carlisle, Carlisle has known the Doctor for years. In fact, all the work he’s been lauded for has actually been done by the Doctor, who’s encouraged Calisle to take all the credit so he could remain behind the scenes. Meeting the Doctor for the last time while the Doctor meets him for the first time is very much in the vein of River Song, and Russell sells the sense of befuddlement at not knowing how to run a peace negotiation mixed with the sheer joy of knowing the Doctor is about to save the day. Hearing the 88-year old Russell act opposite Davison’s Doctor is simply wonderful. As much as I’m glad Dorian hasn’t returned, I wish Big Finish would bring back Carlisle for a serial or two. I truly believe Sarah Sutton came back to the role of Nyssa to expand on the paper-thin characterization she had on television. We get a bit of that here in The Game as Nyssa attempts to help out Lord Carlisle, in the process realizing that, someday, she will indeed leave the TARDIS to establish a life of her own. Nyssa gets in a few choice lines, establishing a nice report with Hollis, and gets a chance to play detective as she realizes someone is trying to sabotage the peace talks. However, there are times where Nyssa holds the proverbial “idiot ball.” She has information for the Doctor, but he tell her to be quiet, and so she leaves it as that instead of explaining what’s going on and why the Doctor needs to know it. While doing so does push the plot forward, it does so in the laziest way possible. The Game was apparently originally intended for the Sixth Doctor, when it’s the perfect story for the Fifth Doctor and his pacifistic tendencies. Peter Davison’s performance is easily the highlight of The Game as the young and athletic sportsman Doctor immerses himself with a Naxy team immediately upon arrival, only to be sickened when he finds out just how lethal the game truly is. Even his refusal to play and hurt another backfires, when his attempts to lead his team to safety inadvertently draws the other team into a position to be flanked, leading to many deaths due to the Doctor attempts to help. Five’s indignation and righteous fury at the sickening hypocrisy of Naxy is on display as he questions his trainer about the traditions and regulations of the game and just how backward they are. His time opposite Carlisle trying to justify and gently criticize his “negotiation style” before realizing the truth about him is heartbreaking as Davison shows the Doctor’s disappointment, not with Carlisle, but with himself. “One should never meet their heroes,” says the Time Lord who met Rassilon, Omega, and now Lord Carlisle. While the sound work puts the listener into the heart of Naxy, in the pubs, in the stands, on the pitch, and in the commentator’s booth, the script fails to live to the post-production work. This just might be the most “tell don’t show” script performed by Big Finish so far. An attempt at sowing breadcrumbs about the mysterious off-world signal, done in the first episode, is the most subtle notion in the script. This is a story where things happen because they NEED to happen. Nyssa having important information and the Doctor telling her to be quiet so Nyssa can go off on her own to get attacked by a wild creature, only to be rescued because Hollis just happened to be nearby? Morian arriving without any buildup? Hollis, after itching to kill the Doctor, suddenly throwing away a chance to do so and proclaiming Naxy is wrong? Hollis’ never mentioned wife and kids dying off-screen? An entire planet, after not even a day of being under attack, uniting in peace and harmony? Destry suddenly having a large gambling debt that was never mentioned before until he brings it up to Morian? How about the rules of Naxy apparently being “run at each other and stab the other guy with a stick” because the script calls for a violent game where people run at each other and stab the other guy with a stick? There’s just so much in The Game that happens for the sake of happening, with very little build, rhyme, or reason. Does Henry want to write a piece talking about the increasing brutalization of sports? Does he want to write a political thriller about negotiations overcoming generations of war? Does he want to write a story about organized crime corrupting organized competition? Apparently, he wants to write all three, and even with six episodes, The Game simply falls apart by the end. Synopsis – William Russell’s performance can’t save The Game from a poor result, with a meandering, unfocused script that bouncing back and forth between plots before cutting 90 degrees into an almost completely unrelated finale. 2/5 Next up - Mythical creatures stalk the streets and alien visitors have come in search of trade. But there is nothing to trade. There is only fear. And death. And the stone ghosts… Sylvester McCoy is the Doctor in…Dreamtime.
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I'm listening to Deadline for the first time. It's fascinating and bleak. I thought it was the last Shearman Big Finish audio that I had to listen to, but I wasn't aware of My Own Private Wolfgang, so I'm glad that I have one more after this! "If you wanted to see me, you could have just called, you didn't have to set rodents alight!" Edit: hahaha and Australian Sydney Newman just showed up. "Struth!" thexerox123 fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Dec 30, 2014 |
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Dec 30, 2014 21:26
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thexerox123 posted:I'm listening to Deadline for the first time. It's fascinating and bleak. DOCTOR WHO YOU UTTER BASTARD
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thexerox123 posted:I'm listening to Deadline for the first time. It's fascinating and bleak. Almost all of the Unbound line is so loving good (except for the bad one, upon which we will waste no words). Plus, you can't go wrong with Derek Jacobi!
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What do people recommend that they use to listen to the Big Finish stories on an Android? I decided to resubscribe over the holidays and I'm open for suggestions.
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Bicyclops posted:Almost all of the Unbound line is so loving good (except for the bad one, upon which we will waste no words). Plus, you can't go wrong with Derek Jacobi! Also the other bad one, about which we'll say "they tried, bless 'em"
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Pinwiz11 posted:What do people recommend that they use to listen to the Big Finish stories on an Android? I decided to resubscribe over the holidays and I'm open for suggestions. I had to look this up a couple weeks back for commute-listening. There's a few that people recommended in general for .m4b (which is what the "audiobook" versions of the downloads are in on big finish) files. I went with "Smart AudioBook Player" and am enjoying it, although it's not like, a life-changing user experience or anything. All I care about is that when I click the "refresh library" it successfully re-scans the folder I told it to look in when I download the next one, and I can pause/play and adjust audio.  When I end up having to listen to them in .mp3 format because I don't have time to DL the full file before heading out in the morning, I just use Google Play Music.
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CobiWann posted:Synopsis – William Russell’s performance can’t save The Game from a poor result, with a meandering, unfocused script that bouncing back and forth between plots before cutting 90 degrees into an almost completely unrelated finale. 2/5 Yeah, it's competent if not exactly groundbreaking for the first 2/3rds of so and then suddenly it's like you're listening to a completely different audio. Very disappointing, and I hated Morian with a passion (and not in the way that Big Finish intended), but at least William Russell is excellent, as is only to be expected.
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I had no idea that was William Russell. That improves my opinion of The Game slightly, although certainly not enough to like or recommend it.
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I can't be too hard on The Game. Russell does a great job whether you know it's him or not (I didn't), and the twist with his character is rather wonderfully bittersweet. It definitely loses its focus but I'd still say it's worth a listen. Some of the conceits to keep the game going (like the fact that teams sell each other's merchandise) were pretty clever. I'd tentatively recommend it.
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I'd recommend it, but only if it's on sale. Then again, I'd recommend anything I rank a "2" or above if it's on sale. Even Timelash. Edit - By the way, this might be of interest to the thread... http://www.bbcshop.com/preorders/good-omens-audio-cd/invt/9781910281918 CobiWann fucked around with this message at 04:36 on Dec 31, 2014 |
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I just saw the episode. Absolutely perfect. It nailed dream logic - in fact, Doctor Who with its wild jumps from idea to idea is maybe the perfect show to do this kind of concept in. Plot holes and weird tonal jumps become foreshadowing - I love it, it's really daring as a concept.
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CobiWann posted:I'd recommend it, but only if it's on sale. Then again, I'd recommend anything I rank a "2" or above if it's on sale. Even Timelash. See, now I'm just wondering how the hell Serafinowicz has never done a big finish.
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Fil5000 posted:See, now I'm just wondering how the hell Serafinowicz has never done a big finish. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Emh75AYxnzk Apparently he's too busy doing the shipping forecast.
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CobiWann posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Emh75AYxnzk I wish I could find the Anthony Hopkins letters he narrates from the old Lee and Herring radio one shows. Unfortunately all I can find is the Mark Gatiss narrated TV version. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3PYp7X_SNg
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Well, we have our first knighted Doctor: http://www.doctorwhonews.net/2014/12/john-hurt-awarded-knighthood.html And Lucie BLEEDIN' Miller is an OBE
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Fil5000 posted:See, now I'm just wondering how the hell Serafinowicz has never done a big finish. I wish Darth Maul had been given more lines in TPM.
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Davros1 posted:Well, we have our first knighted Doctor: They gave one to Craig as well. Guess being the Doctor's flatmate has it's perks  .
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I'm actually surprised Tom or Jon never got a knighthood. (Well, Tom might still, but it's highly unlikely if he hasn't already.)
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Gaz-L posted:I'm actually surprised Tom or Jon never got a knighthood. (Well, Tom might still, but it's highly unlikely if he hasn't already.) I think Tom's turned it down?
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quote:What's your one biggest Doctor Who memory? quote:I remember a man stopping me in Oxford Street once, looking at me with absolute incredulity; he couldn't believe it. He said, 'Tom Baker?' A man in his late thirties. I said, 'Yes'. He said, 'Tom Baker?' I said, 'Yes!' And he looked at me and in his brain he catapulted back in time and he said, 'You know, when I was a boy, I was in a home for children; nobody wanted us, you know? It was terrible. And you made Saturday night good.' And I went to say something to him and I could see him so close to tears that he couldn't speak. And he shook his head as if to say, 'Don't go on, don't remind me' and he just did [a thumbs up]. Such a common thing, isn't it, but suddenly backed up with an expression on his face through his tears that was a knighthood. It was a kinghthood. Just thumbs up, meaning it was great, and thanks. It's incredible, isn't it? Just a gesture.
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Welp, John Hurt is receiving British Knighthood.
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Carbon dioxide posted:Welp, John Hurt is receiving British Knighthood. The Knighthood of the Doctor Oh, and Lucie BLEEDIN' Miller received an OBE!
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