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LastInLine posted:For the price it's pretty hard to beat although I don't know if they're available to folks in the UK.
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ChrisAsmadi posted:So I'm finally looking to replace my Nexus 7 (2012) due to Christmas money, wear and tear and the fact that within the last month it's started running like total poo poo if it's left on for more than a day, and for some reason every tablet in my price range has added software I don't want (the Fire tablets/Tesco Hudls), is from some company I've never heard of or has an Intel Atom CPU. The Hudl2 is drat near stock android. Use another launcher, disable tesco apps. Done! Mine runs like a champ.
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So I went and bought the new Galaxy Tab S 10.4. Is there ANY way at all to get rid of the goddamn Samsung theme/colors/apps? It's ugly, doesn't work well, is filled with poo poo and just in general makes me want to return this thing so badly. Wicaeed fucked around with this message at 12:39 on Dec 27, 2014 |
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Depends powerfully on where (and how willing you are to become one of the Rooted Android grogs), but the short answer is "nope should have bought a Nexus 9 or something". EDIT: Before you ask, Amazon and Nook are so much less Googledroid than even Samsung it's basically not the same ecosystem - and as much as I am judicious about when and how I rely on Google's services, being less like Google's ideal Android is something I mean as distinctly a bad thing. If AOSP is Debian, Nexus is Ubuntu and Samsung is Mint (I went there) then Amazon and Nook are like Plan 9 and fuckin' Splashtop. I don't know if you're willing to do a Windows tablet (pick one with actual Windows and not RT for the love of god) or an iPad, or if Motorola or Sony do significant tablets, or anyone else does a close-to-AOSP that's worth a drat. EDIT 2: Asus might be okay for Android pads. dont be mean to me fucked around with this message at 12:57 on Dec 27, 2014 |
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Wicaeed posted:So I went and bought the new Galaxy Tab S 10.4. Tough times. You can go a good way to avoiding Samsung stuff with careful configuration & a new launcher but you can't change the notification bar, setting menus, lockscreen etc. without rooting and ROMing, which may have other downsides. And I'm not sure its even possible. Step 1: Grab another launcher from the play store. I like Action Launcher 3, there are others. Not sure if the stock google now launcher is in there for tablets. Step 2: Go through the settings step by step and disable all the Samsung gimmick features that slow things down and confuse. Step 3: Go into the apps menu in options, as though you were going to uninstall somwthing. You should be able to disable any of the bundled apps in there. Check the rooted thread if that's not enough.
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You can get the Google launcher just fine, and tons of people swear by Nova (I on the other hand gave up paid Nova for free Apex) so that'll take the glaring TouchWizness out. Except it'll still be all over the back end causing the perennial drag-rear end you've already noticed, occasional problems (and rarely PROBLEMS but still often enough that the dread feelings are well founded), and Samsung's got a history of not letting you disable even most of the Samsung crap. I mean technically you can disable anything with root, but you'd have to be confident you can root the thing first, and Samsung's going whole hog on Knox makes them pretty drat hostile to root or even to factory images. You said you can still return it? dont be mean to me fucked around with this message at 13:00 on Dec 27, 2014 |
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Kerbtree posted:The Hudl2 is drat near stock android. Use another launcher, disable tesco apps. Done! Does that get rid of the stupid Tesco button on the Home screen? Pyroxene Stigma posted:That's a software issue, likely. Did you upgrade to lollipop? 5.0 is broken and you need 5.0.2, which is available to download and manually flash. Makes the tablet usable again so well I'm shocked they haven't pushed it to OTA. It's on 4.4.4 with no updates available. ChrisAsmadi fucked around with this message at 14:07 on Dec 27, 2014 |
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Kerbtree posted:The Hudl2 is drat near stock android. Use another launcher, disable tesco apps. Done!
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JoeMB posted:I would also recommend the kindle fire. The interface is pretty much designed for people like him plus great price to boot. The Kindle Fire's carousel model is definitely more complex than the iPad's app grid. While someone younger would adapt, given the description I'd be hesitant to take the risk since it's the little things which make the difference between a tablet he'll actually use and a tablet which gets left in a drawer. The price differential between it and the Mini 1 isn't large enough to make the gamble worth it. (Though not even sure why I'm replying since the decision has likely already been made). ChrisAsmadi posted:About £130-150, but at this point anything is likely to outperform it because it's running like trash. ASDA are clearing out their stock of the 32GB Nexus 7 2013 for £99 in-store according to a friend (though he didn't know for sure if it was nationwide or not). You're a day late but its probably still worth trying your luck and giving the closest stores in your area a ring to see if they have any/at what price. Or just cut directly to scrambling if that's more your thing. Vagrancy fucked around with this message at 16:12 on Dec 27, 2014 |
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ChrisAsmadi posted:Does that get rid of the stupid Tesco button on the Home screen? Yep. If you've got tesco vouchers to double-up and don't have expectations about getting lollipop, it's a lot of tablet on the cheap.
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Does anyone have a recommendation for a case for the galaxy tab s 8.4? Preferably with a hand strap.
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Horn posted:Does anyone have a recommendation for a case for the galaxy tab s 8.4? Preferably with a hand strap. http://www.att.com/cases/samsung-book-cover-samsung-galaxy-tab-s84.html#sku=sku7380249 I just picked this up to replace my cheap chinese poo poo case, it's really well made but gently caress $60 for the case, for some reason AT&T is selling them for $30 right now.
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Just picked up a Samsung Tab Pro and I'm loving it! Who do people hate default Samsung crap so much? Installing a launcher has made this a non-issue and it irked me how many reviewers whined about TouchWiz. Yeah it's poo poo but a ten second download mitigates all that. Anyways, what are some cool things you like to do on your tablet? I've had an android phone forever and this was kind of an impulse purchase so I'm curious to see what kind of use y'all get for your tablets. It's nice as a reading device for sure, at least. Also, the resolution is just amazing.
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KingSlime posted:Yeah it's poo poo but a ten second download mitigates all that. I don't hate Touchwiz, but you aren't correct.
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Dec 30, 2014 05:33
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How so? Admittedly I haven't used a fully-stock android device in a long time but aside from minor UI elements that remain doesn't switching over to the Google Now launcher (or another one, such as Nova) provide a similar experience to stock? Similar enough at least.
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KingSlime posted:How so? Admittedly I haven't used a fully-stock android device in a long time but aside from minor UI elements that remain doesn't switching over to the Google Now launcher (or another one, such as Nova) provide a similar experience to stock? Similar enough at least. (Full disclosure: I'm not much of a fan of Android on tablets, at least stock Android. It's okay for what it is but I find there's a lot of compromise trying to use a phone UI on a tablet form factor. I've never used a TouchWiz tablet or device so I don't know if it addresses my specific complaints about Android on tablets.)
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KingSlime posted:How so? Admittedly I haven't used a fully-stock android device in a long time but aside from minor UI elements that remain doesn't switching over to the Google Now launcher (or another one, such as Nova) provide a similar experience to stock? Similar enough at least. It's not even on the latest OS version for one - and Lollipop has tons of changes, new features and fixes. Main reason for hate though is that it's precisely because of the existence of TouchWiz that it takes Samsung so long to update their OS to match - and even then its likely stuff will be missing. Essentially, you don't know what you're missing, Samsung's software is an ugly imitation of what Android looked like 3 versions ago.
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I really can't live without multiwindow on my tablet now, though. I mean I could, it would just suck a lot.
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wooger posted:Essentially, you don't know what you're missing, Samsung's software is an ugly imitation of what Android looked like 3 versions ago. That's not entirely correct in that Samsung's had a drop down quick settings/notifications bar for at least a year (two?) already. TouchWiz basically Fisher-Price's Android, and that's ok for some people.
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chocolateTHUNDER posted:I really can't live without multiwindow on my tablet now, though. I wish there was a way to force apps into multi window mode. I'd love to be able to have twitch and something open at the same time.
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KingSlime posted:How so? Admittedly I haven't used a fully-stock android device in a long time but aside from minor UI elements that remain doesn't switching over to the Google Now launcher (or another one, such as Nova) provide a similar experience to stock? Similar enough at least. No one has answered your actual question yet and I don' t have a TW device in front of me to enumerate all the places you can see its touch, but I do know the whole Settings app is a travesty of design.
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In that case, the only things a custom launcher won't change are the slide down settings/notifications screen, and the settings screen. Also, you will still have the Samsung keyboard (which you can change) and your Samsung apps will still appear in your (new) appdrawer. e: Multi-window mode is still fantastic though: 
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Horn posted:I wish there was a way to force apps into multi window mode. I'd love to be able to have twitch and something open at the same time. Yeah, having multi-window compatibility for Netflix/Hulu would just be absolutely killer. As it stands now, it's nice for forums browsing while watching hockey/youtube videos. It's really nice being able to click on a youtube link on the forums and not have it completely kick you out, just open up on a small window above Awful app.
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Dec 30, 2014 18:59
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Netflix is possible, you have to be rooted and install "multiwindow apps manager" though.
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Any suggested accessories for a Shield tablet? I already ordered the 16GB version with a 32GB Samsung Pro and a Poetic Revolution case. I didn't see a personal user case in myself to justify the controller though.
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Daimo posted:Netflix is possible, you have to be rooted and install "multiwindow apps manager" though. Yeah, I saw this and just didn't feel like having to root my device and whatnot.
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Yeah I wouldn't do it again, and by that I mean buy another Samsung. I'd still recommend them for non-nerds though.
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If you had money to burn, what would be the best 8" to 10" Android tablet that runs lollipop at the moment? Or is there something truly kick rear end literally right around the corner?
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Daimo posted:Netflix is possible, you have to be rooted and install "multiwindow apps manager" though. Welp, time to root.
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Gerdalti posted:If you had money to burn, what would be the best 8" to 10" Android tablet that runs lollipop at the moment? Or is there something truly kick rear end literally right around the corner?
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LastInLine posted:As far as I know there are only four that run Lollipop, the Nexuses 7 (2012 & 2013), 9, and 10. Only two fit your criteria of being between 8 and 10 inches, so either the Nexus 9 or 10. The Nexus 9 is almost certainly preferable to the 10 despite both having oddball SoCs. The Shield Tablet has lollipop as well. However, from some reading. Lollipop(Any device that uses it) has huge memory leaks right now and can require daily restarts or you'll see RAM usage spike over 1GB.
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Horn posted:Welp, time to root. If you do you may as well install a rom with all the bloatware removed, since Samsung think you're scum and disable OTAs.
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SlayVus posted:The Shield Tablet has lollipop as well.
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Gerdalti posted:If you had money to burn, what would be the best 8" to 10" Android tablet that runs lollipop at the moment? Or is there something truly kick rear end literally right around the corner?
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SlayVus posted:However, from some reading. Lollipop(Any device that uses it) has huge memory leaks right now and can require daily restarts or you'll see RAM usage spike over 1GB. Why would using half the RAM on a modern device be considered a problem?
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dissss posted:Why would using half the RAM on a modern device be considered a problem? It's not that the RAM is being used, it's that the OS itself has a memory leak.
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Except that isn't something that is actually happening, at least not on 5.0.1
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dissss posted:Except that isn't something that is actually happening, at least not on 5.0.1 But that isn't at all the point I replied to anyway.
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SlayVus posted:The Shield Tablet has lollipop as well. Got a Nexus 7 2013 (5.0.1) and a Galaxy S4 (5.0 custom Google Edition rom) both running perfectly and only needed to restart both devices after updating the hosts file with adaway.
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Tunga posted:
The point you replied to was in response to the post that 'you'll see RAM usage spike over 1GB'. Which isn't at all indicative of an issue on a modern device. As for memory leaks you are not necessarily going to see them - inconsistency is one of the great weak points of Android and there have been similar complaints after every OS version upgrade.
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