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Chamale posted:I can think of one way to cheat with Manifest that won't be easy to catch. If you Manifest a creature with morph, you could use sleight of hand to switch it with a land from your hand. You can now cast the creature with Morph, and buy yourself an extra 2/2. It won't happen in Constructed but I bet we'll see it on camera in a Limited event. Couldn't you do this with anything, not just something with morph? You manifest something you really want and you have a blank card in hand, so you swap the two and then cast your gas.
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vOv posted:Couldn't you do this with anything, not just something with morph? You manifest something you really want and you have a blank card in hand, so you swap the two and then cast your gas. Good point, that also works. Although of course it only works if the gas you want is a noncreature.
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Dec 31, 2014 22:26
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Chamale posted:Good point, that also works. Although of course it only works if the gas you want is a noncreature. Sleight of hand cheats have been around forever in card games. Manifest itself isn't *really* a bigger deal, I think.
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Chamale posted:I can think of one way to cheat with Manifest that won't be easy to catch. If you Manifest a creature with morph, you could use sleight of hand to switch it with a land from your hand. You can now cast the creature with Morph, and buy yourself an extra 2/2. It won't happen in Constructed but I bet we'll see it on camera in a Limited event. I don't think this is particularly special since you could pull the same trick with the top of your library right now if you were so inclined to cheat.
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Dec 31, 2014 22:29
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En Fuego posted:There right there is my favorite deck. Oh it's even better than that. P1P1 Skullclamp (took it over Mox Jet, which was painful but paid off when I got passed Bitterblossom, Gravecrawler, and Bloodsoaked Champion). 
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Mox was the better pick. Power is called power for a reason.
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born on a buy you posted:Mox was the better pick. Power is called power for a reason. Perhaps, but I think it's a coin flip. Pack 2, sure, Mox by default, but leading off with Skullclamp in my hand I was able to shape my entire deck around it, prioritizing things like Gravecrawler and Champion, which made Braids really attractive in pack 2. Recurring Nightmare was Pick 8 in pack 3, it was insane....
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Dec 31, 2014 23:01
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I remember Chapin saying in one of the Open streams that there were 3 non Power 9 cards that actually had a better win percentage than any of the Power 9 in MODO cubes. One was Skullclamp, I think another was Library of Alexandria, and I can't recall the third. Maybe Sol Ring?
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qbert posted:I remember Chapin saying in one of the Open streams that there were 3 non Power 9 cards that actually had a better win percentage than any of the Power 9 in MODO cubes. One was Skullclamp, I think another was Library of Alexandria, and I can't recall the third. Maybe Sol Ring? Sol Ring is usually more powerful than an off-color mox, so I believe it.
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Dec 31, 2014 23:09
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I think Sol Ring is just about an honorary mention of the power family. A card that puts out more mana than you put in and does it every turn is pretty crazy. Especially at 1 mana. It just happens to be an uncommon and got to keep going into revised.
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Dec 31, 2014 23:10
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Kabanaw posted:Sol Ring is usually more powerful than an off-color mox, so I believe it. Sol Ring can be better than an on-colour mox too, depending on how many colours you play and the number of coloured mana symbols on your cards. If you have a lot of cards that cost at least 2 colourless mana, Sol Ring is better than a Mox.
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qbert posted:I remember Chapin saying in one of the Open streams that there were 3 non Power 9 cards that actually had a better win percentage than any of the Power 9 in MODO cubes. One was Skullclamp, I think another was Library of Alexandria, and I can't recall the third. Maybe Sol Ring? I heard that part. It was Sol Ring, Library of Alexandria and Skullclamp.
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qbert posted:I remember Chapin saying in one of the Open streams that there were 3 non Power 9 cards that actually had a better win percentage than any of the Power 9 in MODO cubes. One was Skullclamp, I think another was Library of Alexandria, and I can't recall the third. Maybe Sol Ring? He wasn't talking about cube, it was VMA. I'm still willing to believe that those can be worth picking over power in cube, though. The third was sol ring, btw.
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joats posted:Boy, battle brawler sure has some dumb shoulder pads. world of warcraft was popular back then
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Chamale posted:Sol Ring can be better than an on-colour mox too, depending on how many colours you play and the number of coloured mana symbols on your cards. If you have a lot of cards that cost at least 2 colourless mana, Sol Ring is better than a Mox. Yeah I was tempering how highly I value Sol Ring over Moxen, but it's definitely one of the strongest cards in the cube. It's still funny to me that Sol Ring is legal in commander but yet the power 9 are banned.
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RME posted:world of warcraft was popular back then This made me laugh harder than it should've.
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A fun bit of MODO trivia today: what happened to MODO on your computer when it turned 2015 in your timezone? Give up? It stops working, yaaaaaay
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rabidsquid posted:A fun bit of MODO trivia today: what happened to MODO on your computer when it turned 2015 in your timezone? Give up? It stops working, yaaaaaay  Truly a marvel of science. And we were worried about Y2K.
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It breaks when the year on your computer doesn't agree with the year on wotc's servers, apparently.
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First game of match one of my Holiday Swiss, lose to a turn 3 Tinker into Sundering Titan taking out two of my lands. Game two, turn two mana vault into tinker into Sundering Titan taking out two of my lands. Holiday Cube isn't as fun when other people get the fun things.
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Pinterest Mom posted:It breaks when the year on your computer doesn't agree with the year on wotc's servers, apparently.
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Pinterest Mom posted:It breaks when the year on your computer doesn't agree with the year on wotc's servers, apparently. Why does it even care about the date on the client end? 
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Manifest really makes me want to see one of those sweet demonstrations from Penn and Teller where they explain it afterwards and it's still magical.  I bet they can manifest a standard deck into a vintage one, go off with a dredge combo, and still have the opponent utterly convinced they were playing at a limited event. Alex and the score pad guys aren't bad - they're just lame tricksters and we should be seeing some real magic.
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Kabanaw posted:Yeah I was tempering how highly I value Sol Ring over Moxen, but it's definitely one of the strongest cards in the cube. It's still funny to me that Sol Ring is legal in commander but yet the power 9 are banned. Its already functionally down for everyone for the next 4 hours, btw. They said they're going to fix it in 3 hours from now, but you can't enter anything (e.g. play Magic) until then.
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Also, a PPTQ was scheduled and it just broke entirely and won't be played at all. Not sure how that works, but MTGO, ladies and gentlemen.
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Angry Grimace posted:Also, a PPTQ was scheduled and it just broke entirely and won't be played at all. Not sure how that works, but MTGO, ladies and gentlemen. Perhaps the greatest magicians weren't the players, but WOTC itself. 
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Lovely, I took a break for dinner and came back to this nonsense. Quality software. Why can't I bring myself to sell off my collection and quit.....
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BaronVonVaderham posted:Lovely, I took a break for dinner and came back to this nonsense. 95% of the time it DOES let you play Magic in your house without any friends. That said, given the woes with V4 and the huge dropoff, they should compensate players when they gently caress up this bad. I mean, its a major holiday and you can't even play events.
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Angry Grimace posted:I don't have a problem with the mechanic; I have a problem with the name "manifest." It doesn't sound like what the mechanic does at all. A card that is face-down is the literal opposite of manifest. Think about an Instant/Sorcery/Enchantment entering the field as a physical creature.
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BaronVonVaderham posted:Quality software. Why can't I bring myself to sell off my collection and quit.....
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MTGO has corrected itself: instead of having no events for 3 hours, it won't have any events for 5 hours.Spiderdrake posted:Because there are no other comparable experiences one can have in their underpants, according to the thread, anyway. The aforementioned World of Warcraft still exists. I guess Blizzard can be happy that I just downloaded and installed Hearthstone.
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Spiderdrake posted:Because there are no other comparable experiences one can have in their underpants, according to the thread, anyway. Hearth stone owns but brand loyalty is a funny thing.
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Chill la Chill posted:Hearth stone owns but brand loyalty is a funny thing. Pretty sure he was making a virgin joke, but... Hearthstone's UI is beautiful but it feels like checkers to MtG's chess.It will never replace magic, until Mtgo starts emptying people's checking accounts or something (without their consent, I mean)
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Terrible Horse posted:Pretty sure he was making a virgin joke, but...
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"Happy New Year! We had a meeting last year where I talked with R&D about the color pie breaking and I think I got everyone to understand the danger of us not being careful about it, so I’m hoping for less color breaking in the future. I just wish I could be in on a serious business meeting about the color pie.
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Speaking of Magic Online, I wrote about how I draft the Holiday Cube.
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kingcobweb posted:Speaking of Magic Online, I wrote about how I draft the Holiday Cube. Are you resuming your reviews soon?
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Terrible Horse posted:Pretty sure he was making a virgin joke, but... I tend not to do those other possible activities in my underpants, if I can help it. Hearth stone does lack the instant mechanic but I do like how the creature combat is more nuanced. I wouldn't say it's checkers when board state is more difficult than the magic version of hurf durf defenders almost always have the advantage. Look at the current midrange crisis of both standard and draft - HS doesn't have this stalemate problem.
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Terrible Horse posted:Pretty sure he was making a virgin joke, but... I literally just downloaded Hearthstone 2 hours ago thanks to the MTGO bug and I'm already angry that Wizards can't pay Blizzard to make this poo poo look like that.
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Hearthstone is nice and all, but you can't trade, you can't get specific cards, and the meta is currently weighed down by rush decks. Buying packs is nice, but after a while, you're going to get 40 dust per pack. That can get you a common from crafting. Legendary cards, which can often be a major part of control decks, cost 1600 dust to craft. I realize that Magic is a money sink, but at least I can easily target what I'm going to sink money into. And generally trade with my friends. And you know, not have to play rush decks to go somewhere in the game since I have dick all in funds. Ramos fucked around with this message at 03:13 on Jan 1, 2015 |
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