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Disinterested
Jun 29, 2011

You look like you're still raking it in. Still killing 'em?

quote:

I AM THE POLICE
I am the police, and I'm here to arrest you. You've broken the law. I did not write the law. I may even disagree with the law but I will enforce it. No matter how you plead, cajole, beg or attempt to stir my sympathies, nothing you do will stop me from placing you in a steel cage with gray bars. If you run away I will chase you. If you fight me I will fight back. If you shoot at me I will shoot back. By law I am unable to walk away. I am a consequence. I am the unpaid bill. I am fate with a badge and a gun. Behind my badge is a heart like yours. I bleed, I think, I love, and yes I *can* be killed. And although I am but one man, I have thousands of brothers and sisters who are the same as me. They will lay down their lives for me, and I them. We stand watch together. The thin-blue-line, protecting the prey from the predators, the good from the bad. We are the police.
"Fidelis Ad Mortem"

Why are people I know liking this kind of thing on my UK Linkedin?

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Disinterested posted:

Why are people I know liking this kind of thing on my UK Linkedin?

I don't know, but you can reply with:

quote:

The Police Commandments:-
  1. To prevent crime and disorder, as an alternative to their repression by military force and severity of legal punishment.
  2. To recognise always that the power of the police to fulfil their functions and duties is dependent on public approval of their existence, actions and behaviour, and on their ability to secure and maintain public respect.
  3. To recognise always that to secure and maintain the respect and approval of the public means also the securing of the willing co-operation of the public in the task of securing observance of laws.
  4. To recognise always that the extent to which the co-operation of the public can be secured diminishes proportionately the necessity of the use of physical force and compulsion for achieving police objectives.
  5. To seek and preserve public favour, not by pandering to public opinion, but by constantly demonstrating absolutely impartial service to law, in complete independence of policy, and without regard to the justice or injustice of the substance of individual laws, by ready offering of individual service and friendship to all members of the public without regard to their wealth or social standing, by ready exercise of courtesy and friendly good humour, and by ready offering of individual sacrifice in protecting and preserving life.
  6. To use physical force only when the exercise of persuasion, advice and warning is found to be insufficient to obtain public co-operation to an extent necessary to secure observance of law or to restore order, and to use only the minimum degree of physical force which is necessary on any particular occasion for achieving a police objective.
  7. To maintain at all times a relationship with the public that gives reality to the historic tradition that the police are the public and that the public are the police, the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence.
  8. To recognise always the need for strict adherence to police-executive functions, and to refrain from even seeming to usurp the powers of the judiciary of avenging individuals or the State, and of authoritatively judging guilt and punishing the guilty.
  9. To recognise always that the test of police efficiency is the absence of crime and disorder, and not the visible evidence of police action in dealing with them.
(Popularly attributed to Robert Peel, but in all likelihood was probably Joint Met Commissioners Charles Rowan and Richard Mayne in the 1830s)

gardenald
Jul 23, 2007

In the end, it comes down to throwing one pitch after another, and seeing what happens. With each new consequence, the game begins to take shape.


:sigh:

Reggie Stration is my right wing uncle. Vic Tory is his off the deep end crazy racist son. Who is currently teaching in China. And is what those Chinese kids are going to think all Americans are like.

I loving hate extended family. All the Mike Brown stuff really brought out the virulent racism in him.

Disinterested
Jun 29, 2011

You look like you're still raking it in. Still killing 'em?

gardenald posted:



:sigh:

Reggie Stration is my right wing uncle. Vic Tory is his off the deep end crazy racist son. Who is currently teaching in China. And is what those Chinese kids are going to think all Americans are like.

I loving hate extended family. All the Mike Brown stuff really brought out the virulent racism in him.

Legit how do you deal with these people in person? I would have cut these fuckers off long ago.

KiteAuraan
Aug 5, 2014

JER GEDDA FERDA RADDA ARA!


This lovely little number has been going around. Of course it ignores that in both cases it wasn't :siren:ASSASSINATED COPS DUE TO POLICE UNDER SIEGE!:siren: but the usual, "officer shot in line of duty by mentally unstable individual and individual who did not want to go to horrible US prison".

gardenald
Jul 23, 2007

In the end, it comes down to throwing one pitch after another, and seeing what happens. With each new consequence, the game begins to take shape.

Disinterested posted:

Legit how do you deal with these people in person? I would have cut these fuckers off long ago.

Disengaging every single attempt at talking politics, really. Lots of eye rolling.

I came close to cutting them off with all of the 'that thug got what he deserved' poo poo around the Brown non-indictment

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx
Family can be pretty sweet when it's not all about political bitching.

I suppose I was lucky. My dad just kept ranting on about cops in ways that summarize to"gently caress the police."

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

zeroprime posted:

This is exactly the direction I was hoping it would head after your second update. I can't help but think that the only "aha" moment will unfortunately be indicated by the whole post getting deleted or simply not responding to you anymore.

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

Someday when I'm having a lovely day, I'm going to go back to this post, reread it, and feel better about life. You're doing God's work!

RareAcumen posted:

Try to work tattooing undesirables to separate them from the good people into the next post if it doesn't sink in.

hamster_style posted:

No, both of those would be seen by fanatics as the mark of The Beast. Well I guess since it's only for the undesirables.

Also VitalSigns you're my hero

Gio is a new person who came in and ruined it

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire
Is this person condemning Rosa Parks because that's pretty hilarious. She's joined MLK in the conservative pantheon of Black Civil Rights People It's OK To Like.

Soviet Commubot
Oct 22, 2008


VitalSigns posted:

Gio is a new person who came in and ruined it


Holy poo poo that Rosa Parks comment :stare:

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


I assumed that Marge's comment was pointing out the absurdity of Gio's.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Oh yeah Marge is me, sorry

Soviet Commubot
Oct 22, 2008


Radish posted:

I assumed that Marge's comment was pointing out the absurdity of Gio's.

After reading this thread and the Freep thread I've completely lost my ability to detect satire. :(

DarkHorse
Dec 13, 2006

Nap Ghost

VitalSigns posted:

Oh yeah Marge is me, sorry
You are a treasure and this is the best thing :allears:

VitalSigns touch eat the poop

Wang_Tang
Jan 11, 2004

Cryptologic
I would say that the Holocaust didn't start with huge sweeping measures made by Nazis, but crept in slowly as a result of public apathy and underlying cultural dislike of undesirables. It's really hard to go from zero to concentration camps without some form of public/international outcry. I do like the Rosa Parks comment, but I could see the person doing a, "See!? Liberals are the real racists!" schtick.

Centripetal Horse
Nov 22, 2009

Fuck money, get GBS

This could have bought you a half a tank of gas, lmfao -
Love, gromdul

VitalSigns posted:

Oh yeah Marge is me, sorry

I feel both disappointment and relief. It's nice to know that, sometimes, poo poo that looks like ridiculous trolling really is just ridiculous trolling. On the other hand, Marge could have been a fountain of hilarity if she were real.

Disinterested
Jun 29, 2011

You look like you're still raking it in. Still killing 'em?

Wang_Tang posted:

I would say that the Holocaust didn't start with huge sweeping measures made by Nazis, but crept in slowly as a result of public apathy and underlying cultural dislike of undesirables. It's really hard to go from zero to concentration camps without some form of public/international outcry. I do like the Rosa Parks comment, but I could see the person doing a, "See!? Liberals are the real racists!" schtick.

You're mistaken about the holocaust. Although legal discrimination and violent behaviour against Jews underwent 'gradual' (we're talking <10 years) buildup to begin with, things switched from that to industrial slaughter very quickly. Jewish people felt an immediate step-change in their treatment as soon as Hitler came to power.

International outcry was not a factor in the Holocaust - there was a war on when mass killing started. Moreover, you try public outcry against a policy in a totalitarian state and see how it works out. You just wind up on the same trains.

You're also underestimating the level of anti-semitism that was floating around in Europe pre-Nazis, it seems to me.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Centripetal Horse posted:

I feel both disappointment and relief. It's nice to know that, sometimes, poo poo that looks like ridiculous trolling really is just ridiculous trolling. On the other hand, Marge could have been a fountain of hilarity if she were real.

Hey, the other comment is real and I find the civil rights opinion of "well why do gay people even want to go where they're not wanted anyway" to be impossibly silly and hilarious all on it's own.

And people like Marge do exist. One of my friends who still lives in Oklahoma posts Oklahoma updates:




oklahoma.jpg

And you wonder how I'm so skilled at parodying dumb racist arguments :shepicide:

Branis
Apr 14, 2006

TerminalSaint posted:

I recall a lot of veterans criticizing the Ferguson police because said vets had dealt with riots in Iraq and Afghanistan using less force.

One of the problems is that when you dress a cop up like a soldier, they start to act the way they think a soldier acts. Unfortunately action movies don't spend a lot of time on proper force escalation continuums and deescalation techniques.

Where does drone striking a wedding appear on the use of force continuum? I'm not gonna argue anything about ferguson because the cops straight hosed up, but i'm not for a second gonna believe our military was anything but brutal 100% of the time to civilians in iraq and afghanistan.

Capt. Sticl
Jul 24, 2002

In Zion I was meant to be
'Doze the homes
Block the sea
With this great ship at my command
I'll plunder all the Promised Land!
HAPPY NEW YEAR THREAD! - My Racist Uncle

Verisimilidude
Dec 20, 2006

Strike quick and hurry at him,
not caring to hit or miss.
So that you dishonor him before the judges




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Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!
Posting fake bigoted opinions on Facebook seems super scary specifically because people seem bad at separating the real from the fake. I don't think I'd be able to explain to one of my co-workers (or christ, a future employer or newly added friend) that I was just being ironic when I said that Hitler didn't go far enough or whatever.

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal
Leelaah Alcorn, a transgender teen was killed (likely suicide) from getting hit by a tractor-trailer. She left a note saying his death needs to mean something. Naturally:



If there's anything I've learned from 2014, it's that white, middle-class America is okay with you protesting, provided you are quiet and non-disruptive about it, because your cause isn't as important as me getting my groceries.

Essentially:

quote:

"First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season."

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Countblanc posted:

Posting fake bigoted opinions on Facebook seems super scary specifically because people seem bad at separating the real from the fake. I don't think I'd be able to explain to one of my co-workers (or christ, a future employer or newly added friend) that I was just being ironic when I said that Hitler didn't go far enough or whatever.

Nah, anyone who sees what I wrote and assumes that just because different people shop and different stores that one of those groups has to be inferior sounds like they actually have some issues with bigotry and paternalism themselves. What's wrong with the back of the bus, liberals? Just because a place has black people in it, that doesn't automatically make it bad. Only a bigot would imply that, so as long as my coworkers aren't bigots, no problem.

Wait. poo poo. What is happening to me? :ohdear:

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

VitalSigns posted:

Nah, anyone who sees what I wrote and assumes that just because different people shop and different stores that one of those groups has to be inferior sounds like they actually have some issues with bigotry and paternalism themselves. What's wrong with the back of the bus, liberals? Just because a place has black people in it, that doesn't automatically make it bad. Only a bigot would imply that, so as long as my coworkers aren't bigots, no problem.

Wait. poo poo. What is happening to me? :ohdear:

When you touch the poop, the poop touches you.

sweart gliwere
Jul 5, 2005

better to die an evil wizard,
than to live as a grand one.
Pillbug

DarkHorse posted:

VitalSigns touch eat the poop

Ssempa foresaw VitalSigns, and it drove him mad.



seiferguy posted:

Leelaah Alcorn, a transgender teen was killed (likely suicide) from getting hit by a tractor-trailer. She left a note saying his death needs to mean something. Naturally:



If there's anything I've learned from 2014, it's that white, middle-class America is okay with you protesting, provided you are quiet and non-disruptive about it, because your cause isn't as important as me getting my groceries.

I mean, I still feel awful when reading about any persecuted person having so little hope that they choose suicide. And I haven't read up on the details of this case, and sure that meme poster is a jackass. And of course white Americans are way too complacent toward fixes and progress for anyone's good in this country.

But honestly, that's probably the shittiest way to kill yourself - it's not a form of protest, it's needlessly traumatic for the driver and any onlookers, it's just sad and dumb. Unless the driver was the suicide victim's tormentor, that person's now got a needless killing on their conscience for life. Nobody needs to explode to make a point, just choosing death and leaving a note is pretty heavy on its own. Leelaah clearly wasn't in a good state of mind, but that method of suicide is for assholes.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

sweart gliwere posted:

But honestly, that's probably the shittiest way to kill yourself - it's not a form of protest, it's needlessly traumatic for the driver and any onlookers, it's just sad and dumb. Unless the driver was the suicide victim's tormentor, that person's now got a needless killing on their conscience for life. Nobody needs to explode to make a point, just choosing death and leaving a note is pretty heavy on its own. Leelaah clearly wasn't in a good state of mind, but that method of suicide is for assholes.

yeah there really should be more ethical ways to kill yourself when you're driven insane by society

hopefully something quiet and ignorable

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

When people try to empathise with others in extreme circumstances, and fail, their stand-in always seems to be an omniscient emotionless robot.

drowned in pussy juice
Oct 13, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

KiteAuraan posted:

This lovely little number has been going around. Of course it ignores that in both cases it wasn't :siren:ASSASSINATED COPS DUE TO POLICE UNDER SIEGE!:siren: but the usual, "officer shot in line of duty by mentally unstable individual and individual who did not want to go to horrible US prison".

I really don't understand how people manage to make outrage porn out of these events that are just literally undeniably suicide by cop. A really close friend of my brother in law did something similar a couple of months ago, and despite there being no real narrative on cops one way or another in australia at the moment, he still had to delete his facebook because of the sheer number of dumb things floating around online talking about the WAR ON COPS that followed the incident despite the real story here being just how easy it is and how brutally tragic it can be to slip through the gaps of the mental health system

drowned in pussy juice fucked around with this message at 21:47 on Dec 31, 2014

Rick_Hunter
Jan 5, 2004

My guys are still fighting the hard fight!
(weapons, shields and drones are still online!)

MC Eating Disorder posted:

I really don't understand how people manage to make outrage porn out of these events that are just literally undeniably suicide by cop. A really close friend of my brother in law did something similar a couple of months ago, and despite there being no real narrative on cops one way or another in australia at the moment, he still had to delete his facebook because of the sheer number of dumb things floating around online talking about the WAR ON COPS that followed the incident despite the real story here being just how easy it is and how brutally tragic it can be to slip through the gaps of the mental health system

What really irks me is the false equivalence between the injustice of being threatened with death because of your race and not getting any kind of change in the system VS a cop dying and everything in the justice system working out perfectly to charge, try, and convict their killer. And people are wondering why people aren't protesting the latter.

It's like standing outside of the prison where the cop killer is serving his sentence and chanting,
:byodood::"What do we want?"
:byodame::"JUSTICE!"
:byodood::"When do we want it?"
:byodame::"NOW!"

Motherfucking goddamn :shepicide:

Rick_Hunter fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Dec 31, 2014

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe
Email forwards thread: Put the poop on your body

EnsGDT
Nov 9, 2004

~boop boop beep motherfucker~

SedanChair posted:

Email forwards thread: Put the poop on your body

You people don't understand. Sometimes the only way to survive is to become one with the poop.

borkencode
Nov 10, 2004
Isn't crawling through the poop worth it in the end?

Hackers film 1995
Nov 4, 2009

Hack the planet!

Finally. This thread broached a subject that I have more than a passing knowledge of: Poop. I mean...I have nothing to say about it, but it is still nice.

Fulchrum
Apr 16, 2013

by R. Guyovich
There is no end here. This thread doesn't rick over at the end of the year like others do, it just keeps on going, year in, year out.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Wiggles Von Huggins posted:

Finally. This thread broached a subject that I have more than a passing knowledge of: Poop. I mean...I have nothing to say about it, but it is still nice.

I think most people have a knowledge of passing poop

DanTheFryingPan
Jan 28, 2006

Cognac McCarthy
Oct 5, 2008

It's a man's game, but boys will play

sweart gliwere posted:

I mean, I still feel awful when reading about any persecuted person having so little hope that they choose suicide. And I haven't read up on the details of this case, and sure that meme poster is a jackass. And of course white Americans are way too complacent toward fixes and progress for anyone's good in this country.

But honestly, that's probably the shittiest way to kill yourself - it's not a form of protest, it's needlessly traumatic for the driver and any onlookers, it's just sad and dumb. Unless the driver was the suicide victim's tormentor, that person's now got a needless killing on their conscience for life. Nobody needs to explode to make a point, just choosing death and leaving a note is pretty heavy on its own. Leelaah clearly wasn't in a good state of mind, but that method of suicide is for assholes.

I don't know if you've ever been suicidal but people seriously contemplating suicide often spend a lot of time thinking about how they want to do it, and if they're really serious they might gravitate towards methods that are 1) guaranteed to be fatal, 2) easy to achieve, logistically, and 3) sudden, or at least fast enough so that it's impossible to back out of it at the last minute. Yeah sure stepping in front of traffic sucks because it forces other people to witness your death but it meets all three criteria so it's not like the decision was made from a "gently caress yeah these people are gonna have to see it" rationale.

Wang_Tang
Jan 11, 2004

Cryptologic

Disinterested posted:

You're mistaken about the holocaust. Although legal discrimination and violent behaviour against Jews underwent 'gradual' (we're talking <10 years) buildup to begin with, things switched from that to industrial slaughter very quickly. Jewish people felt an immediate step-change in their treatment as soon as Hitler came to power.

International outcry was not a factor in the Holocaust - there was a war on when mass killing started. Moreover, you try public outcry against a policy in a totalitarian state and see how it works out. You just wind up on the same trains.

You're also underestimating the level of anti-semitism that was floating around in Europe pre-Nazis, it seems to me.

I intentionally left a few details out, especially the historic antisemitism in European history; but my point still stands about the gradual change of public attitude and its applicability to the conversation he was having. If nothing else, it just shows that Nazi Germany and the Holocaust is a complicated, nuanced bit of history that has very few analogues with other, more recent events.

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Jul 13, 2004

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KiteAuraan posted:

This lovely little number has been going around. Of course it ignores that in both cases it wasn't :siren:ASSASSINATED COPS DUE TO POLICE UNDER SIEGE!:siren: but the usual, "officer shot in line of duty by mentally unstable individual and individual who did not want to go to horrible US prison".

"As far as we know, the killings were not related to Ferguson race-rioters, but the stories are still developing."

Now that's journalism. Draw a connection, wait for it to be cemented in readers' minds, then quietly let it slip under the waves of public discourse.

I wonder what it felt like to write the descriptions of those crimes out, and every keystroke making it more obvious they were normal police/suspect altercations with no bearing on the larger theme of the article. And then, sort of ending it, and publishing it. Must have felt like getting paid.

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