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Kuvo
Oct 27, 2008

Blame it on the misfortune of your bark!
Fun Shoe

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Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022

HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:

Do you ever see Star Platinum pull out dual wielded machineguns?

Yes, they're called his fists, you goon.

HerpicleOmnicron5
May 31, 2013

How did this smug dummkopf ever make general?


Beef Waifu posted:

Yes, they're called his fists, you goon.

Imagine how quickly he could reload a musket, or fire a bolt-action rifle with that speed! That'd be a much cooler way to use the power. Also, I hate that they simply threw away Hamon/Ripple. I liked the cool stuff done with it, such as wine-shots, deadly bubbles and pigeon attack.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Muskets and rifles and Ripple are useless against Stands, dog. Only a Stand can touch a Stand. Except for a couple Stands.

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
Joseph and Caesar are the only ones who did anything creative with the drat thing and Caesar only used it for bubbles.

Widdiful
Oct 10, 2012

The problem with Hamon is that, especially in Phantom Blood, it just boils down to "I punched you more so I win".

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
To give Araki credit, Joseph was a really great character as a fighter too because the unique ways he applied the Ripple were cool and fun. It required genuine ingenuity and smart thinking and made him fun to watch. Unfortunately that is the problem with Phantom Blood and Battle Tendency is that he's the only one who's fun to watch. Caesar has one cool fight (Which is also his death fight), Lisa Lisa does gently caress all, Jonathan is punchman incarnate, and who gives a gently caress about any of the other Ripple guys like Straizo and Dire? Zeppeli is the only other one who comes close and most of his fun stuff is relegated to training Jonathan since when he gets in a fight it is punching with him too.

Part of the reason Jotaro is cool is because Araki tries to find a way to mix the punching with ingenuity and it has mixed results. Although, poo poo like Rubber Soul, Steely Dan, and Justice were all cool fights that Jotaro could not just punch his way out of. A lot of the upcoming fights are similar to that too.

Kaiser Mazoku
Mar 24, 2011

Didn't you see it!? Couldn't you see my "spirit"!?

FutureFriend posted:

kill la kill

Also a good show.

hoobajoo
Jun 2, 2004

FutureFriend posted:

kill la kill

Are you saying KLK is good or bad? Because I was in that thread as it was airing, and reactions were mixed, to say the least.

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
Holy poo poo, do not start this.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!

Beef Waifu posted:

Joseph and Caesar are the only ones who did anything creative with the drat thing and Caesar only used it for bubbles.

And Zeppeli's Wine Cutter.

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
I don't even remember him using that thing beyond one time so I just count that as one of his cool things he did and never did again in any actual fights.

HerpicleOmnicron5
May 31, 2013

How did this smug dummkopf ever make general?


Beef Waifu posted:

he's the only one who's fun to watch.

Clearly somebody has forgotten Stroheim, the Mech-Nazi. He was the best, what with him being a goddamn cyborg.

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
I'm referring to people who used the ripple, holy poo poo.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

I'm happy this thread is back.

HMS Boromir
Jul 16, 2011

by Lowtax
I don't think the Jamón was better than stands but nobody in SC holds a candle to BT Joseph Joestar. I guess I'm into Kakyoin, wielder of the elemental power of Gross. Hoping for more Weird Bullshit out of Kakyoin this season

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:

Clearly somebody has forgotten Stroheim, the Mech-Nazi. He was the best, what with him being a goddamn cyborg.
Stroheim was pretty sweet but he has a couple of character flaws. One, his UV cannon recklessness nearly caused the annihilation or subjugation of the human race under the Ultimate Being. Two, in case you didn't notice, he was a Nazi. A really big Nazi. We're not talking 'forced into it,' we're not even talking von Braun 'well, they're immoral, but what can you do? i like rockets,' no, Stroheim presumably had the full backing of the National Socialist Regime.

See how far your anti-Stand foolishness has led you?

HMS Boromir posted:

I don't think the Jamón was better than stands but nobody in SC holds a candle to BT Joseph Joestar. I guess I'm into Kakyoin, wielder of the elemental power of Gross. Hoping for more Weird Bullshit out of Kakyoin this season
Yeah, I'm keeping my eyes peeled for more from him.

What's kind of interesting is that any of these dudes could probably have led an interesting series of their own.

FirstAidKite
Nov 8, 2009
Yo stands are cool and if wheel of fortune's mindgames and steely dan making joseph freak out and kakyoin feeding a baby his own poop wasnt the tightest poo poo then you can just get out of my face *claps hands together to walk like an egyptian by the motherfuckin bangles* I'm out. Baal do you think it is time to stop the thread for 9 whole days

Pootybutt
Apr 5, 2011

Kakyoin's stand is the best because it goes TOOT TOOT

FirstAidKite
Nov 8, 2009
It was pretty great when Avdol comes back from the dead and he's just like "hey polly I'm back let's piss in this dudes mouth we're the good guys"

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


HMS Boromir posted:

I don't think the Jamón was better than stands but nobody in SC holds a candle to BT Joseph Joestar. I guess I'm into Kakyoin, wielder of the elemental power of Gross. Hoping for more Weird Bullshit out of Kakyoin this season

Ehhh, the adventures of Old Joseph fighting Empress was pretty great. Don't you lie.

HerpicleOmnicron5
May 31, 2013

How did this smug dummkopf ever make general?


Beef Waifu posted:

I'm referring to people who used the ripple, holy poo poo.

His guns rippled a bit through the air. And his hair was blonde, like how the ripple was yellow.

HMS Boromir posted:

I don't think the Jamón was better than stands but nobody in SC holds a candle to BT Joseph Joestar. I guess I'm into Kakyoin, wielder of the elemental power of Gross. Hoping for more Weird Bullshit out of Kakyoin this season

Kakyoin's "lick lick lick" and Old Joseph are the only two things that made me chuckle throughout the series.

Nessus posted:

Stroheim was pretty sweet but he has a couple of character flaws. One, his UV cannon recklessness nearly caused the annihilation or subjugation of the human race under the Ultimate Being. Two, in case you didn't notice, he was a Nazi. A really big Nazi. We're not talking 'forced into it,' we're not even talking von Braun 'well, they're immoral, but what can you do? i like rockets,' no, Stroheim presumably had the full backing of the National Socialist Regime.

Yeah, and I appreciate that. Too many shows villify the Nazis, for very good reason. It would've been easy to make Stroheim a bad guy, or any of the Wehrmacht who featured in Battle Tendency for that matter. Quite the breath of fresh air there.

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
Stroheim's rad though, I don't disagree.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:

Yeah, and I appreciate that. Too many shows villify the Nazis, for very good reason. It would've been easy to make Stroheim a bad guy, or any of the Wehrmacht who featured in Battle Tendency for that matter. Quite the breath of fresh air there.
Would you say that... Stroheim did nothing wrong?

FirstAidKite
Nov 8, 2009

HerpicleOmnicron5's whining posted:


It's time for your punishment, baby

Pootybutt
Apr 5, 2011

Real talk I never so much got into Joseph's BT shenanigans cause it just felt like he was pulling poo poo out of his rear end. It's funny and works for a lil while, but I was never at a loss as to whether he would win or not(cept for those times he didn't.)

Introducing Stands really leveled the playing field and made battles much more exciting when everyone is constantly pulling that poo poo with each other.

Suaimhneas
Nov 19, 2005

That's how you get tinnitus

Beef Waifu posted:

Straizo and Dire

Why would you ever put their names that way round :doh:

El Burbo
Oct 10, 2012

Suaimhneas posted:

Why would you ever put their names that way round :doh:

oh

ooooooooh

HerpicleOmnicron5
May 31, 2013

How did this smug dummkopf ever make general?


Nessus posted:

Would you say that... Stroheim did nothing wrong?

Well, he did kidnap Speedwagon. And we all know Speedwagon was the best. Maybe also the awakening of Santviento, that was a pretty bad thing. But he ended up being a badass robot man fighting the Pillar Men, so I don't care.

Kaiser Mazoku
Mar 24, 2011

Didn't you see it!? Couldn't you see my "spirit"!?
This is why we spell it "Straits"

HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:

Well, he did kidnap Speedwagon. And we all know Speedwagon was the best. Maybe also the awakening of Santviento

I'm so mad right now you can't even imagine

Kaiser Mazoku fucked around with this message at 20:20 on Jan 1, 2015

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!

HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:

Well, he did kidnap Speedwagon. And we all know Speedwagon was the best.

To be fair, Speedwagon would've died from the injuries Straits gave him if the Nazis hadn't saved him.

FirstAidKite
Nov 8, 2009

Iserlohn
Nov 3, 2011

Watch out!

Here comes the third tactic.
Lipstick Apathy
Man, Jotaro and co. are going to be hosed when they get to Egypt and fight an escaped and recovered Santana now that the last Ripple Master can hardly belt out Beats.

Also, JoJo's has been going on for, what, 30 years? Believe it or not, but Araki actually learns how to handle the dynamic of Stands and have fights more insane than anything in Battle Tendency. You know, only with some sort of rules or basis instead of just 2 buff dudes bullshitting each other because Ripple.

HerpicleOmnicron5
May 31, 2013

How did this smug dummkopf ever make general?


Iserlohn posted:

Believe it or not, but Araki actually learns how to handle the dynamic of Stands and have fights more insane than anything in Battle Tendency.

Okay, now I have reason to continue. This might get good.

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


Yeah, Part 3 is the awkward, stumbling start of Stands. The Egypt section I think is where Araki started to really get a feel for the sort of poo poo he can do with them.

Iserlohn
Nov 3, 2011

Watch out!

Here comes the third tactic.
Lipstick Apathy
I'm not going to get into details, but the last volume of Stardust Crusaders is nonstop hype from start to finish, and ends up having some of the most memorable moments in a franchise that consistently has really over-the-top, strong endings (well, besides Phantom Blood). I get preferring to watch anime over reading manga, but you might want to read ahead to see how Stands are pushed to their most logical and illogical extremes.

There's a character in a later part who's powers are basically Storm from the X-Men. Only instead of summoning tornadoes and thunderstorms he creates a rainstorm of toxic dart frogs by casting a miniature hurricane over a part of South America and induces hallucinations and mass hysteria via hypnotic rainbows caused by refracted sunlight shooting from holes in the ozone layer or something. Dude's a supporting character. Araki really leaves the low-hanging fruit of Fire Man or Sword Man behind after SC.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:

Okay, now I have reason to continue. This might get good.
Yeah, you can argue this is kind of the second Phantom Blood. The crazy train we boarded when a man punched a frog is only accelerating.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
New trailer, new previews(don't watch if you don't want to see new characters):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZgY8Q3KdRc

Widdiful
Oct 10, 2012

Kurtofan posted:

New trailer, new previews(don't watch if you don't want to see new characters):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZgY8Q3KdRc

Is it starting on the 16th now or is that something else?

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Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


I think it's referring to a different channel airing the show.
The PV from the end of last year specifically said the ninth.

Stands own. I want one. I don't want read other people making up OC Stands though, it never ends well. Everything from here on out gets amazing as all hell.

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