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Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Bimmi posted:

Almost every single one of Gtoy's 2014 predictions turned out to be wrong and there's no reason to expect this round to be any different.

Hey, their 80% High-Grade predictions were right on the money, and the only reason it wasn't a clean sweep is because the WZC got an RG version instead. Though I think if you say the words "Real Grade Unicorn Gundam" out loud, a Gunpla designer will suddenly start sobbing without understanding why.

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long-ass nips Diane
Dec 13, 2010

Breathe.

Neddy Seagoon posted:

Hey, their 80% High-Grade predictions were right on the money, and the only reason it wasn't a clean sweep is because the WZC got an RG version instead. Though I think if you say the words "Real Grade Unicorn Gundam" out loud, a Gunpla designer will suddenly start sobbing without understanding why.

Yeah but... Real Grade Full Armor Unicorn...

TARDISman
Oct 28, 2011



Swagger Dagger posted:

Yeah but... Real Grade Full Armor Unicorn...

Oh trust me, the execs at Bandai just got an erection and not knowing why, but they've been in a constant state of that since PG Unicorn was announced since everyone knows they can go with 5 or 6 variations of the Unicorn. It's like marketing Viagra. That being said, PG Unicorn just launched so they aren't going to do an RG for it any time soon.

lilljonas
May 6, 2007

We got crabs? We got crabs!

Warmachine posted:

The reason I suggested what I did was on the off chance you were doing an asymmetrical paint job. Snap-building first helps eliminate some guesswork by showing you were each part will end up after transforming. If you wanted the best of both worlds, you can hollow out the holes a bit so that the parts come apart easier (at least for things like the thighs and forearms, head, that kind of thing that doesn't articulate) and then glue them together when you do the final build. I remember reading that tip in one of the old OP's guides.

I see. If I go for a paint scheme similar to the box I might even try airbrushing the main colour on the sprue, and then do a final touch-up after assembly. Should be quicker and less messy than painting dozens of individual parts off-sprue.

Is there any sort of market for built and painted stuff? As in, if I don't have space for a bunch of Gundams but I end up enjoying building them, can you normally recoup the cost of the kit and materials by selling the finished build?

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn

Swagger Dagger posted:

Yeah but... Real Grade Full Armor Unicorn...

Until Bandai decides to ditch the approximately 2500 yen price range they've set RG to so far, we're never going to get anything too large.

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013




Come on HG Kapool. A properly articulated kit, that has its various torso bits poseable without the poly cap falling off inside the torso every time you do so.

TARDISman
Oct 28, 2011



Is it wrong I want there to be an HGUC Capule just for schadenfreude?

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013




TARDISman posted:

Is it wrong I want there to be an HGUC Capule just for schadenfreude?

Would people actually care much about the difference? Its a matter of a coat of paint.

The Muffinlord
Mar 3, 2007

newbid stupie?
I finished building the Sazabi over New Year's, and I've got some thoughts on it that I'm too tired to express right now. My biggest problem with the kit seems to be the weapons. Holy poo poo are they ever ill-designed. Neither gun fits well in the suit's hands, or can be held one-armed without anything short of a loving struggle. The beam axes don't even have hand-pegs, so I have absolutely no idea how those are supposed to work at all! It's a good thing the Sazabi is an amazing-looking suit, because I'm loving tired of MG-level kits that can't hold their own loving weapons right.

W.T. Fits
Apr 21, 2010

Ready to Poyozo Dance all over your face.
Still holding out hope for HGFC Gundam Spiegel.

:smithicide:

TARDISman
Oct 28, 2011



everythingWasBees posted:

Would people actually care much about the difference? Its a matter of a coat of paint.

Hopefully not, but I'm a bit of a pessimist about how dumb some fandoms can get.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn

The Muffinlord posted:

The beam axes don't even have hand-pegs, so I have absolutely no idea how those are supposed to work at all!

Just have the fingers wrap around them. They should be light enough.

quote:

It's a good thing the Sazabi is an amazing-looking suit, because I'm loving tired of MG-level kits that can't hold their own loving weapons right.

They can, you just have to know how to pose them. :shrug:

Fact is, by design the Sazabi is not a very poseable suit. It's got huge weapons and bulky, rounded armor. It is primarily made to just stand there and look imposing, and if you want it to do more you have to learn to work with it.



First off, beam rifle. Just like the Zeta or the ZZ, its butt is way too huge to hold straight on anything that isn't a fully outstretched arm. Unlike the Zeta or the ZZ, the Sazabi vKa's wrists are flexible enough that you can tuck the gun under the armpits. The weak wrists don't even get in the way here since you're probably pointing the gun down anyway.



If you want to hold the rifle out straight, this is your only option. Rest the butt on the inner side of the forearm and tilt the arm up a bit. Most of the gun's weight should fall on the arm instead of the wrist, and whatever droop you get should hopefully be masked. The gun will probably fall over time, but it should last way longer than 30 seconds like the Nu vKa.



The long rifle was not made to be held up by one hand, so don't even try. You can pull off some dynamic poses with the grip on the top,



but if you want to have the Sazabi fire it you'll have to use both hands and point it to the side.



They give you the option of tacking on the Sinanju's add-on, and just like how the Gundam 3.0 can hold its beam rifle but not the Super Napalm this is beyond the Sazabi vKa's capabilities. Just deal with it and pose it firing down.

As far as I know, the Nu vKa is the only kit with emotion manipulators that straight up can't hold one of its weapons the way it was intended, and that's just because it was Bandai's first try with those hands.

EDIT: Alternatively, invest in the B-Club resin hands.

BlitzBlast fucked around with this message at 05:26 on Jan 4, 2015

Tenzarin
Jul 24, 2007
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Taco Defender

TARDISman posted:

The things both of them have going for them is the sheer kickassery of the mech design. The GP-01 and Gerbera Tetra are two of my favorite designs and AGE has badass space dragons, the AGE-FX which is the Nu Gundam if it shoved funnels into every orifice, and the AGE-1 Titus, which is a wrestler expansion for the first Gundam in the series.

EDIT: At least 08th MS Team had a dopey as hell love story instead of Stardust Memories which just made you want to put your head through a wall.

How did the guy with one arm even make that mobile armor anyway? I mean he had one freaking arm.

Frankenstein Dad
Jul 4, 2008

Dad of Frankenstein

BlitzBlast posted:

MG Leopard/Airmaster.

I'm only just getting into gunpla as a hobby, but if they release an MG Leopard I'll probably faint.


God the gatling gun is so cool.

TARDISman
Oct 28, 2011



Tenzarin posted:

How did the guy with one arm even make that mobile armor anyway? I mean he had one freaking arm.

I don't even know, at that point my eyes kinda glazed over. I pretty much remember the first through third episodes of Stardust Memories and the last two or three. The other six are a blur punctuated by Gato's mini speech.

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013




Tenzarin posted:

How did the guy with one arm even make that mobile armor anyway? I mean he had one freaking arm.

One armed dudes making crazy machinery has long been a thing, especially in terms of prosthetic. Honestly with enough clamps I doubt that there's really much you wouldn't be able to do.
Also he really just did repairs and customized its controls to work for a one-armed dude. That was probably one of the least stupid parts of that show. Besides the Feddy helping him repair it, but, you know.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
The Val Varo was half-finished during the OYW, but then that ended and it was left incomplete. Crazy one arm dude just spent 4 years finishing it.

The stupider part was Zeon even having the technology for the Val Varo in a time period where MAs were huge, bulky, and mostly Newtype-use. But 0083's ridiculous tech inconsistencies are the least of its problems.

Monaghan
Dec 29, 2006

I gotta say I really liked how the alclad chrome and clear red look on the mg sengoku astray.



Though holy poo poo is panel lining this thing going to take a while.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

BlitzBlast posted:

Until Bandai decides to ditch the approximately 2500 yen price range they've set RG to so far, we're never going to get anything too large.

RG Unicorn, a RG Full Armor add-on pack, both at the standard price. That'd be dope. Except I never want to build another Unicorn.

TARDISman
Oct 28, 2011



Literally The Worst posted:

RG Unicorn, a RG Full Armor add-on pack, both at the standard price. That'd be dope. Except I never want to build another Unicorn.

You're missing the point, a Unicorn RG would have to transform and have the inner frame, the psychoframe, and the outer casing. On top of which, the Unicorn stands about a head taller than the RX-78, which is what Blitz was referring to by too large. Combine all that and it just isn't feasible to make in an RG.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

TARDISman posted:

You're missing the point, a Unicorn RG would have to transform and have the inner frame, the psychoframe, and the outer casing. On top of which, the Unicorn stands about a head taller than the RX-78, which is what Blitz was referring to by too large. Combine all that and it just isn't feasible to make in an RG.

I mean, they could cheat like they did with the HG and release it as two separate kits, one for Unicorn Mode and one for Destroy Mode.

TARDISman
Oct 28, 2011



Literally The Worst posted:

I mean, they could cheat like they did with the HG and release it as two separate kits, one for Unicorn Mode and one for Destroy Mode.

Which defeats the purpose of it being a Real Grade. It's like if they released the Zeta and had it be a partsformer to make the thing more stable. By definition, Real Grades are supposed to have the detail of a Perfect Grade in the scale of a High Grade at the relative affordability of a Master Grade.

W.T. Fits
Apr 21, 2010

Ready to Poyozo Dance all over your face.

Tenzarin posted:

How did the guy with one arm even make that mobile armor anyway?

Magic.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn

Literally The Worst posted:

I mean, they could cheat like they did with the HG and release it as two separate kits, one for Unicorn Mode and one for Destroy Mode.

God I wish RG took shortcuts for stability.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



lilljonas posted:


Is there any sort of market for built and painted stuff? As in, if I don't have space for a bunch of Gundams but I end up enjoying building them, can you normally recoup the cost of the kit and materials by selling the finished build?
Not much of one. People who just want one to look at usually buy a Robot Damashii or some similar toy, part of the fun of models is the building. You can try eBay but don't expect much.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

BlitzBlast posted:

God I wish RG took shortcuts for stability.

You'll take your microscopic fragile mechanical detail and like it :toughguy:.

Red Bones
Aug 9, 2012

"I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

I love the more complicated model kits and I find actual Gundams kinda boring because they get so samey after a while, so an RG or MG grunt/villain suit in 2015 would make my day. RG FAZZ would be a neat way to acknowledge ZZ's anniversary in 2016 without making something too fragile to touch, but I feel like settling for a more feasible design isn't really Bandai's thing.

Cthulhu Dreams
Dec 11, 2010

If I pretend to be Cthulhu no one will know I'm a baseball robot.
I was looking at picking up the Daban PG Red Frame Astray kit referenced earlier in the thread - but does anyone know what the best way to get these in Australia is? My inital research makes it look like HK Ebay resellers or Aliexpress resellers are the best option - Ali Express being significantly cheaper.

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021

Cthulhu Dreams posted:

I was looking at picking up the Daban PG Red Frame Astray kit referenced earlier in the thread - but does anyone know what the best way to get these in Australia is? My inital research makes it look like HK Ebay resellers or Aliexpress resellers are the best option - Ali Express being significantly cheaper.

You could check out https://www.gundamcentral.weebly.com and see what the price is for you there as well.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

BlitzBlast posted:

The Val Varo was half-finished during the OYW, but then that ended and it was left incomplete. Crazy one arm dude just spent 4 years finishing it.

The stupider part was Zeon even having the technology for the Val Varo in a time period where MAs were huge, bulky, and mostly Newtype-use. But 0083's ridiculous tech inconsistencies are the least of its problems.

Not really. It's just an upgraded Bigro with extra weapons from the Adzam, nothing drastic.

Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy
Just finished the right arm of my MG Acguy. It has a couple cool features:





The claws are spring loaded. You can press the cannon in the center of the claw-hand in order to release them.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn

Darth Walrus posted:

Not really. It's just an upgraded Bigro with extra weapons from the Adzam, nothing drastic.

The Val Varo is something like five times faster than the Bigro, and yet entirely controllable by an Oldtype with one arm. That is kind of sort of bullshit.

Red Bones posted:

RG FAZZ would be a neat way to acknowledge ZZ's anniversary in 2016 without making something too fragile to touch, but I feel like settling for a more feasible design isn't really Bandai's thing.

I would die in joy if they made an RG FA ZZ (or a FAZZ I could just repaint), but there's so much poo poo in that design it'd be like two RGs. :negative:

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

BlitzBlast posted:

The Val Varo is something like five times faster than the Bigro, and yet entirely controllable by an Oldtype with one arm. That is kind of sort of bullshit.

Nah, the Bigro was pretty goddamned fast (fast enough to make Amuro almost black out with the G-forces when it grabbed him), and was also controllable by a single Oldtype pilot. That was its primary selling point, being big, tough, and faster than anything a mobile suit could manage. The VV just upped the agility a little and stuck on more guns.

Cthulhu Dreams
Dec 11, 2010

If I pretend to be Cthulhu no one will know I'm a baseball robot.

TaurusOxford posted:

You could check out https://www.gundamcentral.weebly.com and see what the price is for you there as well.

Is that site actually legit? I had seen it, and I must admit the somewhat amateur site design had my scamdar pinging.

Cthulhu Dreams fucked around with this message at 17:04 on Jan 4, 2015

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021

Cthulhu Dreams posted:

Is that site actually legit? I had seen it, and I must admit the somewhat amateur site design had my scamdar pinging.

I've ordered from it for almost every third party/knockoff kit i've ever bought, and have never had issues.

W.T. Fits
Apr 21, 2010

Ready to Poyozo Dance all over your face.
Been working my way through SEED HD remaster, and certain historical revisionisms aside, been enjoying it. Is the HG M1 Astray that came out back in 2012 a decent kit?

TARDISman
Oct 28, 2011



W.T. Fits posted:

Been working my way through SEED HD remaster, and certain historical revisionisms aside, been enjoying it. Is the HG M1 Astray that came out back in 2012 a decent kit?

I like it, the two anti-ship swords that come with it are super nice. Articulation is above average, only real problem is it has trouble standing in a neutral position thanks to the backpack.

Ka0
Sep 16, 2002

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AS A PROUD GAMERGATER THE ONLY THING I HATE MORE THAN WOMEN ARE GAYS AND TRANS PEOPLE
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Monaghan posted:

I gotta say I really liked how the alclad chrome and clear red look on the mg sengoku astray.



Though holy poo poo is panel lining this thing going to take a while.

I'm doing exactly the same. What clear red did you use?

Mecha Gojira
Jun 23, 2006

Jack Nissan

Monaghan posted:

I gotta say I really liked how the alclad chrome and clear red look on the mg sengoku astray.



Though holy poo poo is panel lining this thing going to take a while.

What kind of gloss black base coat did you use for the Alclad? I know they recommend using enamel, but I hate working with enamels especially since the only ones I can get my hands on are Testors. I think I remember someone in the thread saying they used acrylics, though.

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Crazy Pigeon
Nov 2, 2010
Speaking of the danban astray pg, anyone have any opinions on it? I've been tempted to get it for a while now since its much cheaper than the Bandai version. Is the supposed lower quality worth the money saving?

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