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Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth
e: I misread something and I'm dumb

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Inevitable
Jul 27, 2007

by Ralp

Jace Madan posted:

No, there are dark jedi and force users, and the Sith, which are a separate faction.

But, like, nobody ever chooses to be those other dark jedi or something? They just get their name on the Sith apprentice waiting list and keep their fingers crossed?

Jace Madan
Apr 10, 2007

A survivor... unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality.

Inevitable posted:

But, like, nobody ever chooses to be those other dark jedi or something? They just get their name on the Sith apprentice waiting list and keep their fingers crossed?

Some do. The main difference is dark Jedi are usually loners, not interested in working in an organization and they are not dedicated to Sith ideologies and history. They are basically rogue agents, not interested in galactic conquest or domination. When they do form groups, there is no "rule of two"., so there can be many dark Jedi in a group. Apparently Sith consider themselves to be more powerful than dark Jedi though.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


I mean the rule of two is dumb but I always figured that in the original movies that the Jedi/Sith we meet are all that's left. I mean logically speaking that might be impossible but there's a specific story to be told and you shouldn't really be thinking "well on other planets..." because Star Wars is just that story and the characters within it.

I think the EU writers and other trash producers think incorporating neutrals and Dark Jedi (not Sith!) and all this other stuff adds depth but it's just really stupid and takes away a lot of the magic of the movies.

burritolingus
Nov 6, 2007

by Ralp

Groovelord Neato posted:

I mean the rule of two is dumb but I always figured that in the original movies that the Jedi/Sith we meet are all that's left. I mean logically speaking that might be impossible but there's a specific story to be told and you shouldn't really be thinking "well on other planets..." because Star Wars is just that story and the characters within it.

I think the EU writers and other trash producers think incorporating neutrals and Dark Jedi (not Sith!) and all this other stuff adds depth but it's just really stupid and takes away a lot of the magic of the movies.

Always felt like it was less "you're the last Jedi, Luke" and more "because you're his son, you'll be able to reach Darth Vader in a way that nobody else can, Luke" which is why those other Jedi people are insignificant.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


As far as he and we know, Luke is it. I didn't give a second thought to there being more Jedi or Sith or whatever until I started reading the Star Wars books as a stupid preteen. Kinda takes away the power of the purge when the galaxy is rotten with Jedi that escaped.

facebook jihad
Dec 18, 2007

by R. Guyovich
I thought the two Sith rule was stupid even as a dumb preteen.

It's been forever since I've seen Star Wars. Are the Sith mentioned in the movies or did they start as an EU thing?

Mr.Pibbleton
Feb 3, 2006

Aleuts rock, chummer.

Man there's a ton of force using traditions out in the EU, including: space kung fu, polearm specialists, dervishes, elemental styles, time/space folding lobster monks that are force neutral so they can use lightning no probs, power armor focused knights, silicon crystal lifeforms inside a droid chasis, plant worshiping healers instructed by the legendary titty trees, even people who specialize in throwing things like this.



Those are all from the same book too!

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


I remember the card game and toys had the word with but don't think it was ever in the OT. When I did hear it, I thought it was just a synonym for dark Jedi.

Inevitable
Jul 27, 2007

by Ralp
Tell me more about these titty trees.

Mr.Pibbleton
Feb 3, 2006

Aleuts rock, chummer.

Inevitable posted:

Tell me more about these titty trees.

They're in the wookiepedia breast article http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Breast "T'ra Saa, a tree with pronounced breasts."

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


"Dark Lord of the Sith" is in the Star Wars script but I don't think it's ever mentioned in the movies. I still think of it as just "Dark Side Jedi" instead of all the stupid poo poo in the EU.

Iseeyouseemeseeyou
Jan 3, 2011

Mr.Pibbleton posted:

Man there's a ton of force using traditions out in the EU, including: space kung fu, polearm specialists, dervishes, elemental styles, time/space folding lobster monks that are force neutral so they can use lightning no probs, power armor focused knights, silicon crystal lifeforms inside a droid chasis, plant worshiping healers instructed by the legendary titty trees, even people who specialize in throwing things like this.



Those are all from the same book too!

wasn't there some dumb jeed i who used the force to make himself into a tree and put himself into a coma and like 50,000 years later emerged from the coma and immediately saved luke's life

Mr.Pibbleton
Feb 3, 2006

Aleuts rock, chummer.

Iseeyouseemeseeyou posted:

wasn't there some dumb jeed i who used the force to make himself into a tree and put himself into a coma and like 50,000 years later emerged from the coma and immediately saved luke's life

I couldn't find the specific one but that sounds super familiar.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Celeste_Morne

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ikrit



Also this jedi was a tree fucker http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Tholme

Iseeyouseemeseeyou
Jan 3, 2011

Mr.Pibbleton posted:

I couldn't find the specific one but that sounds super familiar.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Celeste_Morne

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ikrit



Also this jedi was a tree fucker http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Tholme

nah, this was the dumbie i thinkin of http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ood_Bnar

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

Hair color
Changes with mood (frequently white)[3]

:rolleyes:

Tender Bender
Sep 17, 2004

Groovelord Neato posted:

"Dark Lord of the Sith" is in the Star Wars script but I don't think it's ever mentioned in the movies. I still think of it as just "Dark Side Jedi" instead of all the stupid poo poo in the EU.

Yeah it isn't mentioned onscreen until Phantom Menace and even then it isn't explained, they just start describing bad guys as Sith so for all we know Sith does just mean "a guy who uses the dark side".

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

Hair color
Changes with mood (frequently white)[3]

:rolleyes:

i thought it was going to be some self-insert-fangirl-sounding character from this but no it's the chinchilla rabbit jedi master again because he wasn't ridiculous enough already

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Watched a couple of episodes of that Rebels show and man, the kid character couldn't have been a bigger Luke knock off.

a real rude dude
Jan 23, 2005

did darth vaders dick get burnt off with his legs, probably really hosed up that whole region, poor guy

Inevitable
Jul 27, 2007

by Ralp

Mr.Pibbleton posted:

They're in the wookiepedia breast article http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Breast "T'ra Saa, a tree with pronounced breasts."

That's no titty tree, that's just a hot girl who is made of wood or some poo poo. I want titty trees!

This:



But force sensitive.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

Aesop Poprock posted:

i thought it was going to be some self-insert-fangirl-sounding character from this but no it's the chinchilla rabbit jedi master again because he wasn't ridiculous enough already

Sparkledog chinchilla Jedi is going to be the star of the next Star Wars movie

Light Gun Man
Oct 17, 2009

toEjaM iS oN
vaCatioN




Lipstick Apathy

david... posted:

did darth vaders dick get burnt off with his legs, probably really hosed up that whole region, poor guy

this is why he is strong, since the dark side is powered by hate and rage

McGiggins
Apr 4, 2014

by R. Guyovich
Lipstick Apathy
Goddamn the EU is stupid.

Has anyone counted how many extra Jedi there actually is from before the purges?

Like forty or whatever, Palps and Vads did a pretty poo poo job of stamping them out. And they all die as soon as the main characters show up.

Starting to think that maybe Luke and his buds lie about what happen and he just kills em off so they can't get in the way of his ~New Order~.

Also, anyone remember the robo-jedi who lived with the space-sea-pirates using steam-powered galleons that fired cannon balls in the gas cloud? EU as gently caress right there.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

muscles like this? posted:

Watched a couple of episodes of that Rebels show and man, the kid character couldn't have been a bigger Luke knock off.

Luke mans up real quick. The kid? I don't expect him to. Not to mention the Kid is such a Gray Sue.

kingcom
Jun 23, 2012

oohhboy posted:

Luke mans up real quick. The kid? I don't expect him to. Not to mention the Kid is such a Gray Sue.

The latest episode has him manning up pretty quick. Plus the kid has been pretty poo poo at anything thats not picking locks and everyone tends to chew him out for it. Seems pretty unlike a gary sue type character but maybe the author thinks poorly of himself?

Iseeyouseemeseeyou
Jan 3, 2011

McGiggins posted:

Goddamn the EU is stupid.

Has anyone counted how many extra Jedi there actually is from before the purges?

Like forty or whatever, Palps and Vads did a pretty poo poo job of stamping them out. And they all die as soon as the main characters show up.

Starting to think that maybe Luke and his buds lie about what happen and he just kills em off so they can't get in the way of his ~New Order~.

Also, anyone remember the robo-jedi who lived with the space-sea-pirates using steam-powered galleons that fired cannon balls in the gas cloud? EU as gently caress right there.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

muscles like this? posted:

Watched a couple of episodes of that Rebels show and man, the kid character couldn't have been a bigger Luke knock off.

That's totally not right. He's a Disney's Aladdin knock off. :colbert:

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Snowglobe of Doom posted:

That's totally not right. He's a Disney's Aladdin knock off. :colbert:

They did some weird stuff with him though where he's the same age as Luke (would be at the time) and was even born on almost the same day.

Calico Heart
Mar 22, 2012

"wich the worst part was what troll face did to sonic's corpse after words wich was rape it. at that point i looked away"



pentyne posted:

Jacen Solo

Tenal Ka

THIS MIGHT BE IT

The only single line I ever read from a Star Wars novel was "And then Jacen Solo shot lightning from his fingertips and sent Tenal Ka's grandmother into a coma". Even at like 14 years old I was like "this is loving awful poo poo" but that line stuck with me forever

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


Pork Pro
I remember a book as a kid that was all just back stories for the aliens and poo poo in the Cantina when Luke and Han were there, almost all of them were awful, but the worst was the dude that looked like a walking penis being this huge plant biologist there to meet with someone about the fate of the universe revolving around some gay tree he was trying to save or find or some poo poo.

Half the meetings at that bar were all things that put the fate of the galaxy on their shoulders. I wonder how many times a decision worth more than the cost of a good DUI lawyer has been made at a Chili's

Nckdictator
Sep 8, 2006
Just..someone
1980's fanzines were weird.























:nws: http://i.imgur.com/hE1j7Jp.jpg :nws:

:nws: http://i.imgur.com/pQwTQwG.jpg :nws:


quote:

If you are a true STAR WARS fan who cares deeply about the Saga, I urge you to please read this letter. The person writing this wishes to stay anonymous as my only want is to protect the integrity and good image of my beloved galaxy, and I need no attention to myself. I am very serious about what you are about to read and it's extremely important for everyone that loves STAR WARS to listen to what I have to say and take it seriously. A disgusting movie spoof of SW called SPACEBALLS will be released soon. I was unfortunate to see an advance preview of it and am abhorred by what I saw. I consider myself to be a dedicated and loyal SW fan. I love that universe as my home and those characters as my best friends, and I hate anyone that does anything against SW. Considering that, I know what I'm talking about in this letter. Well, SPACEBALLS goes way beyond just doing something against SW. The whole movie is one long ludicrous, hideous put-down of everything in SW. It makes Leia look like a gunslinging whore, makes Han look like he's a stupid idiot, and makes Voda look like a foolish master of nothing. SPACEBALLS then goes on to reach the height of bad taste in making fun of every other character, place and thing in the SW galaxy. I was outraged to see how the movie had the gall to ridicule and laugh at all the things in SW that the fans take very seriously. SPACEBALLS makes all the SW characters look like jerks and reduces all the intimate aspects of the Saga, like Leia and Han's relationship or Luke's Force training, into a series of uncalled for and tasteless jokes. I find nothing funny about making fun of SW. No real fan would, either. This sick movie should be considered high sacrilege and extreme offense against all SW fandom. I ask everyone reading this to please don't go see the movie. To be serious, I beg you in the good name of SW, DO NOT go see this movie in any way, shape or form. If you love Leia, and the others, and if you are a real, true fan, you will stay far away from SPACEBALLS. Tell everyone you know - - Everyone -- that the movie is a complete absurdity and tell them to go see it. I beg you to spread the bad word about this insult to SW called SPACEBALLS. No one can call themselves a true SW fan if they go to see or support in any way a movie or person that makes fun of SW. You and I and all of SW fandom owe it to the characters to see that SPACEBALLS is successful. It would not be fair to them (the characters) if a movie putting them down is a success. We can't let it be. It is a threat to the reputation and integrity and good image of the SW saga. Spread the bad word and send letters of protest to MGM Studios. DO NOT go to see SPACEBALLS. If you truly love STAR WARS, you won't go to see it and you'll do your best not to let anyone else see it, either. This letter is to be taken dead seriously and deserves deep concern and action from SW fans. DO NOT go to see SPACEBALLS. Our Saga's reputation is at stake.

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


Booblord Zagats posted:

I remember a book as a kid that was all just back stories for the aliens and poo poo in the Cantina when Luke and Han were there, almost all of them were awful, but the worst was the dude that looked like a walking penis being this huge plant biologist there to meet with someone about the fate of the universe revolving around some gay tree he was trying to save or find or some poo poo.

Half the meetings at that bar were all things that put the fate of the galaxy on their shoulders. I wonder how many times a decision worth more than the cost of a good DUI lawyer has been made at a Chili's

They were all drug deals, if my local Chili's is indicative. That tree is a drug tree

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


Pork Pro

Chill la Chill posted:

That tree is a drug tree

It grows special jedi- spice for death sticks and must be harvested by force sensitive wookies

HJE-Cobra
Jul 15, 2007

Bear Witness

Hell Gem

Nckdictator posted:

If you are a true STAR WARS fan who cares deeply about the Saga, I urge you to please read this letter. ...

Haahahaha, is this serious? Pleading with Star Wars fans to ensure that SPACEBALLS is never successful? I love Spaceballs, it's a classic spoof of Star Wars (and a dash of other sci-fi). I find Spaceballs way better as a spoof than the Robot Chicken or Family Guy Star Wars spoofs, I can only imagine how a person like that would respond to the existence of those two.

Or that Star Wars Detours thing. If this fan was so worried about the deadly-seriousness of Star Wars that they couldn't stand Spaceballs at its release, I wonder how they'd feel about Star Wars poking fun at itself (poorly) with that Detours show.

Nckdictator
Sep 8, 2006
Just..someone

HJE-Cobra posted:

Haahahaha, is this serious? Pleading with Star Wars fans to ensure that SPACEBALLS is never successful? I love Spaceballs, it's a classic spoof of Star Wars (and a dash of other sci-fi). I find Spaceballs way better as a spoof than the Robot Chicken or Family Guy Star Wars spoofs, I can only imagine how a person like that would respond to the existence of those two.

Or that Star Wars Detours thing. If this fan was so worried about the deadly-seriousness of Star Wars that they couldn't stand Spaceballs at its release, I wonder how they'd feel about Star Wars poking fun at itself (poorly) with that Detours show.

Yeah, letter sent to some 1980's fan magazine.

http://fanlore.org/wiki/Open_Letter_to_Star_Wars_Fans_Regarding_the_Movie_%22Spaceballs%22

burritolingus
Nov 6, 2007

by Ralp
To be fair Spaceballs isn't really all that good or funny.

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


Pork Pro

burritolingus posted:

To be fair Spaceballs isn't really all that good or funny.

It's Mel Brooks' weakest film and it was made that way on purpose because he really wanted to avoid Lucas getting heavily litigious, I've heard stories that he even let Lucas yay-or-nay a lot of the script before hand and agreed to not make a single toy based on the film.

HJE-Cobra
Jul 15, 2007

Bear Witness

Hell Gem

Booblord Zagats posted:

It's Mel Brooks' weakest film and it was made that way on purpose because he really wanted to avoid Lucas getting heavily litigious, I've heard stories that he even let Lucas yay-or-nay a lot of the script before hand and agreed to not make a single toy based on the film.

A shame, we could have had Spaceballs: The Flamethrower

Plus, if there had been a legal case made against Spaceballs, it wouldn't have had a leg to stand on. Parody protected by law, yo

HJE-Cobra fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Jan 5, 2015

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ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

quote:

A disgusting movie spoof of SW called SPACEBALLS

This really makes me want to watch Spaceballs right now.

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