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Endorph posted:anyway my problem with penguindrum is that it sucks Basically we should all just go back to rewatching Eureka Seven and if you MUST experience Yurikuma just pretend Talho and the other adult lady might kiss later after Holland fucks up AGAIN.
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coathat posted:Most yuri is made and read by women. I guess lesbians dehumanize themselves. dehumanize yourself and face to bloodshed
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 06:55 |
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coathat posted:Most yuri is made and read by women. I guess lesbians dehumanize themselves. I forgot Kunihiko Ikuhara was a woman. It doesn't matter who makes it, just because a woman made it doesn't mean it's any better. I'm a woman and a lesbian, and I enjoy fanservice, and I wouldn't care if other people enjoyed fanservice as well if they weren't using the sexuality of the characters to claim their of a higher moral standing than other otaku. Especially when it's used to shadow fanservice of underage characters who get raped by bears, which is pretty gross imho. Effectronica posted:Okay, so what I'm getting from this is that you're a pedophile, but at least you're not one of those otaku. Interesting. I also wasn't referring to male-targeted fanservice, either. How am I pedophile? Are you even trying to participate in this conversation?
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 06:57 |
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Reading this thread is like betting mauled by lesbian bears. Just watched it and I have no idea how much of that I should take literally. Watching this is like watching Utena for the first time, if I'd skipped straight to the last season. I'd like it more if I could figure out these characters. Two are bears, one hates bears, everyone is gay, fourth girl, three dudes live in a wall and do court cases. Neat! What??
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 06:57 |
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Talho and the other adult lady might kiss later
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 06:59 |
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the Something Awful boards are harboring more and more pedophiles by the day it seems
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DrPaper posted:I forgot Kunihiko Ikuhara was a woman. It doesn't matter who makes it, just because a woman made it doesn't mean it's any better. I'm a woman and a lesbian, and I enjoy fanservice, and I wouldn't care if other people enjoyed fanservice as well if they weren't using the sexuality of the characters to claim their of a higher moral standing than other otaku. Especially when it's used to shadow fanservice of underage characters who get raped by bears, which is pretty gross imho. You were the one who said you were no better than someone who Of course, the question of whether we are meant to treat, say, Utena Tenjou as a literal fourteen-year-old within the context of RGU is one that's thorny because of that sort of accusation, and also not exactly an easy one to answer given the cultural perceptions around high school in Japan.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 07:01 |
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Makes you think, don't it? People just assume the demographic for schoolgirl lesbians is "fat hairy virgins" but, for instance, the readership for Yuri Hime is 70% female and they serialize moe series like Yuru Yuri. I'm male so I just try to be open-minded about everything. If Akiko Morishima thinks portraying sexuality is an important part of fleshing out the relationship between two girls, I want to respect that. Then on the other hand you have mangaka like Aoki Ume, who writes her stories as "so subtext they could possibly be just friends". I think that is also yuri.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 07:02 |
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Endorph posted:gidget? isnt she like 16 No the other adult. The one that's not the doctor. The LFO Pilot that's married(?) to Matthieu. EDIT: Hilda! That's her name. Space Flower posted:People just assume the demographic for schoolgirl lesbians is "fat hairy virgins" but, for instance, the readership for Yuri Hime is 70% female and they serialize moe series like Yuru Yuri. Makes you think, don't it? ZenMasterBullshit fucked around with this message at 07:08 on Jan 6, 2015 |
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Effectronica posted:You were the one who said you were no better than someone who Sorry, I meant to intone I was just simply" a weird anime person", and that jacking it to lesbian anime girls doesn't make you better than weird anime people just because their lesbians. I was caught of guard when you actually invited me to talk about the subject instead of shirking it off, so I didn't proofread my syntax. I don't tend to watch anime with underaged characters in general because I actually hate children.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 07:07 |
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It appears this thread... has backed down on love.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 07:07 |
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Space Flower posted:People just assume the demographic for schoolgirl lesbians is "fat hairy virgins" but, for instance, the readership for Yuri Hime is 70% female and they serialize moe series like Yuru Yuri. Well, Morishima is just the character designer on this, right? The story is Ikuhara's work.
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DrPaper posted:Sorry, I meant to intone I was just simply" a weird anime person", and that jacking it to lesbian anime girls doesn't make you better than weird anime people just because their lesbians. I was caught of guard when you actually invited me to talk about the subject instead of shirking it off, so I didn't proofread my syntax. I don't tend to watch anime with underaged characters in general because I actually hate children. 'scool. Supposedly, there's a hefty straight woman audience for yuri/Class S, which may explain a great deal of genre conceits.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 07:09 |
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I'm happy Effectronica and Dr. Paper have become friends. Space Flower might have been onto something.
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Motto posted:Well, Morishima is just the character designer on this, right? The story is Ikuhara's work. True, though the stuff she normally writes is basically this with less weirdness and more fluff.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 07:12 |
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Motto posted:Well, Morishima is just the character designer on this, right? The story is Ikuhara's work. She does the manga version all on her own, but the two are separate continuities, so yes.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 07:14 |
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Are the timelines going to intersect at all?
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 07:16 |
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Ibram Gaunt posted:I'm happy Effectronica and Dr. Paper have become friends. Space Flower might have been onto something.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 07:16 |
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I think Ikuhara said that she's getting to do whatever she wants with the manga.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 07:17 |
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coathat posted:I think Ikuhara said that she's getting to do whatever she wants with the manga. I hope she has the bears kill them.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 07:18 |
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I kinda wonder if Attack on Titan was in Ikuhara's brain when he was cooking this up. I mean, you've got a bizarre carnivorous threat to all human life, a wall that's pretty clearly part metaphor, infiltrators, violent death of the ostensible protagonist's loved one in the first episode... uh... a hunting rifle... ?
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 07:18 |
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OnimaruXLR posted:I mean, you've got a bizarre carnivorous threat to all human life, a wall that's pretty clearly part metaphor, infiltrators, violent death of the ostensible protagonist's loved one in the first episode... uh... a hunting rifle... ?
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 07:22 |
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OnimaruXLR posted:I kinda wonder if Attack on Titan was in Ikuhara's brain when he was cooking this up. I mean, you've got a bizarre carnivorous threat to all human life, a wall that's pretty clearly part metaphor, infiltrators, violent death of the ostensible protagonist's loved one in the first episode... uh... a hunting rifle... ? I'm feeling a little bit of DOOM: Repercussions of Evil with the blue girl, Kureha.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 07:23 |
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Actually it's Pacific Rim with bears.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 07:23 |
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Sakurazuka posted:Actually it's Pacific Rim with bears. But Pacific Rim already had bears in it!
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 07:36 |
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This show is bad
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 10:22 |
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Xun posted:This show is bad I like it
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 10:37 |
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On one hand thinly veiled metaphors about teenagers and sexuality is kind of ikuhara's thing on the other hand, yeesh
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 10:52 |
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pointy teeth in an anime bother me for some reason like that's not even how mouths work unless you're really deliberately trying to do it I blame excel saga
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 11:19 |
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You've obviously never seen an undoctored picture of Kirsten Dunst.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 11:35 |
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Sakurazuka posted:You've obviously never seen an undoctored picture of Kirsten Dunst. teeth like a lamprey
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 11:57 |
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I haven't watched this show, only watched the opening, and I don't know what the gently caress is going on with this questionably aged, fog filtered, lesbian toe sucking bear behavior, but that song is pretty dope imo.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 12:26 |
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Personally, I liked the self made teeth grinding sounds. The rest of the episode was confusing but was enjoyable, I guess.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 12:33 |
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So taken at face value, the courtroom scene was basically just dudes arguing back and forth about maintaining balance between humans and bears before going 'lol jk you are bears it is totally cool if you eat humans because you are hungry', right?
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 12:51 |
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Serious Frolicking posted:So taken at face value, the courtroom scene was basically just dudes arguing back and forth about maintaining balance between humans and bears before going 'lol jk you are bears it is totally cool if you eat humans because you are hungry', right? That just gave me more questions. Like, why are bears holding a trial for whether or not bears can eat humans or not? Do they seriously conduct a trial every time a bear's stomach is empty, or...?
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 13:14 |
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I keep wanting to type 'I'm sure we'll get an explanation eventually' but, uh.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 13:19 |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sankebetsu_brown_bear_incidentquote:The Sankebetsu brown bear incident (三毛別羆事件 Sankebetsu Higuma jiken?), also referred to as the Rokusensawa bear attack (六線沢熊害事件 Rokusensawa yūgai jiken?) or the Tomamae brown bear incident (苫前羆事件 Tomamae Higuma jiken?) was the worst bear attack in Japanese history,
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 13:39 |
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Arashi literally means storm but its used as a substitute for things like chaos, havoc and even trolling. The act of cutting the flowers and lobbing a brick at them definitely made me think of this bullying type of trolling prevalent now days. The court scene was weird in general but I think the most important part was when Sexy asked if the girls wanted to remain invisible or if they wanted to eat. Repress, hide whats inside of you or partake in what comes naturally. In contrast, in the walled city everyone seems to be gay but its extremely sterile, lacking any passion. Its a pragmatic sort of love where the girls are together as a form of defense against bears or simply because the girls like each others company.
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 13:55 |
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One of the girls is named Katyusha, a reference to the Russian bear, maybe?
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# ? Jan 6, 2015 14:16 |
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I'd agree that this lacked the energy of Penguindrum's opening episode. The court scene was dull and difficult to understand at first glance. The final scene was interesting. 'I won't forgive those who destroy love' is probably the key line in conjunction with all the 'I will fight for love' stuff. Kureha was judged and survived (her love was approved) while the victim clearly failed and was eaten in a more literal sense. I'm suspicious of Sumika given she wandered off on her own even in a world where that's considered a fatal mistake. My guess would be that she was the one to cut the lilies in a rejection of their 'love' and she was judged because 'her love was not true'. Alternately there is a third party who is trying to destroy their love, which would better explain the brick being thrown. Or both, I guess. I'm also curious as to why Kureha seemed to believe the bears had promised to return Sumika, since I don't recall them ever saying anything like that. At most, she was told that her love would be approved, whatever that means. Either way I think it's clear that the bear attacks aren't random predation but are a form of judgement, though incidentally the bears definitely seem to enjoy eating people.
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