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shodanjr_gr: Nov 20, 2007

What language is that?

# ? Jan 5, 2015 22:14

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# ? May 21, 2024 01:54

Munkeymon: Aug 14, 2003; Motherfucker's got an
armor-piercing crowbar! Rigoddamndicu𝜆ous.

Looks like C#

# ? Jan 5, 2015 22:18

cat_snake: Nov 19, 2014

Yes, C#.

# ? Jan 5, 2015 22:23

Polio Vax Scene: Apr 5, 2009

If you don't give your variables meaningful names, then I'm not going to give you a meaningful name. So, welcome to the team, Mr. Blah

# ? Jan 5, 2015 23:14

NovemberMike: Dec 28, 2008

I like how he had tabcontrols tc and tcc.

# ? Jan 6, 2015 01:32

HappyHippo: Nov 19, 2003; Do you have an Air Miles Card?

NovemberMike posted:

I like how he had tabcontrols tc and tcc.

Reminds me of some of the naming conventions in LaTeX. If you want the different sizes of larger parentheses the sequence is (in increasing size): "\big(" "\Big(" "\bigg(" "\Bigg(". "\quad" is a large space, but "\qquad" is a bigger space. I think there's more but those are the two I can remember off the top of my head.

# ? Jan 6, 2015 02:05

ErIog: Jul 11, 2001

HappyHippo posted:

Reminds me of some of the naming conventions in LaTeX. If you want the different sizes of larger parentheses the sequence is (in increasing size): "\big(" "\Big(" "\bigg(" "\Bigg(". "\quad" is a large space, but "\qquad" is a bigger space. I think there's more but those are the two I can remember off the top of my head.

It's too bad LaTeX isn't really a programming language since it would definitely qualify as a horror in many regards.

# ? Jan 6, 2015 02:19

apseudonym: Feb 25, 2011

ErIog posted:

It's too bad LaTeX isn't really a programming language since it would definitely qualify as a horror in many regards.

Its Turing Complete which is a bigger horror.

# ? Jan 6, 2015 02:35

Van Kraken: Feb 13, 2012

apseudonym posted:

It's Turing Complete which is a bigger horror.

What isn't, nowadays?

Van Kraken fucked around with this message at 02:41 on Jan 6, 2015

# ? Jan 6, 2015 02:37

bone app the teeth: May 14, 2008

This is how you fix a rogue break tag appearing in some data.

code:

$scope.replaceBR = function(descr){
    descrNoBr = descr.replace(new RegExp("<br>", "g"), "  ");
    descrNoBr = descrNoBr.replace(new RegExp("<br/>", "g"), "  ");
    descrNoBr = descrNoBr.replace(new RegExp("<BR/>", "g"), "  ");
    return descrNoBr.replace(new RegExp("<BR>", "g"), "  ");
};

# ? Jan 6, 2015 04:12

Knyteguy: Jul 6, 2005; YES to love
NO to shirts; Toilet Rascal

flare posted:

This is how you fix a rogue break tag appearing in some data.

code:

$scope.replaceBR = function(descr){
    descrNoBr = descr.replace(new RegExp("<br>", "g"), "  ");
    descrNoBr = descrNoBr.replace(new RegExp("<br/>", "g"), "  ");
    descrNoBr = descrNoBr.replace(new RegExp("<BR/>", "g"), "  ");
    return descrNoBr.replace(new RegExp("<BR>", "g"), "  ");
};

... and it still doesn't cover " " or " ".

What's that for a template engine or wysiwyg editor?

# ? Jan 6, 2015 04:42

evensevenone: May 12, 2001; Glass is a solid.

apseudonym posted:

Its Turing Complete which is a bigger horror.

You can make a Turing complete machine with a single opcode. Subtract and branch if less than zero is a popular one, I think someone even made a (simplified) C compiler for it.

# ? Jan 6, 2015 04:46

Linear Zoetrope: Nov 28, 2011; A hero must cook

This term I'm TAing an entry level, online course in Data Structures. Which for some god forsaken reason is done in C.

This is going to be a great source of ridiculous, colorful, beautiful memory and pointer bugs, isn't it?

# ? Jan 6, 2015 04:57

bone app the teeth: May 14, 2008

Knyteguy posted:

... and it still doesn't cover " " or " ".

What's that for a template engine or wysiwyg editor?

Neither. It's an angular controller printing some text and that's data coming from the API.

# ? Jan 6, 2015 05:17

Evil_Greven: Feb 20, 2007; Whadda I got to,
whadda I got to do
to wake ya up?

To shake ya up,
to break the structure up!?

flare posted:

This is how you fix a rogue break tag appearing in some data.

code:

$scope.replaceBR = function(descr){
    descrNoBr = descr.replace(new RegExp("<br>", "g"), "  ");
    descrNoBr = descrNoBr.replace(new RegExp("<br/>", "g"), "  ");
    descrNoBr = descrNoBr.replace(new RegExp("<BR/>", "g"), "  ");
    return descrNoBr.replace(new RegExp("<BR>", "g"), "  ");
};

Shouldn't it just be something like:

code:

$scope.replaceBR = function(descr) {
  return descrNoBr.replace(new RegExp("/<br[^>]*>/", "gi"), "  ");
};

Not sure of language, just guessing at syntax - there aren't even escape characters?

# ? Jan 6, 2015 05:35

brap: Aug 23, 2004; Grimey Drawer

Looks like JavaScript.

# ? Jan 6, 2015 05:37

Sedro: Dec 31, 2008

Evil_Greven posted:

Shouldn't it just be something like:
code:
$scope.replaceBR = function(descr) {
 return descrNoBr.replace(new RegExp("/<br[^>]*>/", "gi"), " ");
};
Not sure of language, just guessing at syntax - there aren't even escape characters?

JavaScript code:

$scope.replaceBR = function(descr) {
  return descr.replace(/<br\/?>/gi, '  ');
};

# ? Jan 6, 2015 05:58

Tad Naff: Jul 8, 2004; _{I told you you'd be sorry buying an emoticon, but no, you were hung over. Well look at you now. It's not catching on at all!}

I'm sure I have seen this function in my favourite horror, CONTENTdm.

# ? Jan 6, 2015 06:13

Wheany: Mar 17, 2006; Spinya^{ha^{ha^haha}ha}ha_{ha_{ha_haha}ha}ha!; Doctor Rope

Sedro posted:

JavaScript code:

$scope.replaceBR = function(descr) {
  return descr.replace(/<br\/?>/gi, '  ');
};

HTML code:

<br />

# ? Jan 6, 2015 07:17

Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
sl�gt skal f�lge sl�gters gang

s/<[^>]*>//g :black101:

# ? Jan 6, 2015 07:21

Wheany: Mar 17, 2006; Spinya^{ha^{ha^haha}ha}ha_{ha_{ha_haha}ha}ha!; Doctor Rope

How do I parse HTML with regular expressions?

# ? Jan 6, 2015 07:34

TheresaJayne: Jul 1, 2011

Scaramouche posted:

I had a group project in an after hours VB6 class (yes I'm old) I was taking. We had to make a hotel booking system. I said I'd do the forms (interface, button layout, etc.), another guy said he'd hook up the forms to the database, and the one we'd already identified as the dead weight said would do the 'graphics'. So fast forward 6 weeks, database guy had hosed off completely (literally; no one ever saw him again), 'graphics' girl had given me one image which was a crude drawing of a hotel used for the startup image. However my lorem ipsum stuff on the forms was so convincing people thought the thing actually worked (obviously until you tried to make a new booking). We got the highest mark in the class. Weirdest part was the chinese guys who had somehow made a completely working version, but as a console command-line app.

At college i started by doing an electronic engineering course but during the first year myself and a guy were good with computers so our in course work was too easy (introduction to computers) we were tasked with making a timetable management system for the college admin office, Running on a bbc B with the mouse rom added we did a nice system with desktop etc. got A++ for that module and they quickly advised me to drop enginerering (not a girls subject) and go for the computing course. Which back then i just did so backing up the stereotype.

# ? Jan 6, 2015 07:47

apseudonym: Feb 25, 2011

Jsor posted:

This term I'm TAing an entry level, online course in Data Structures. Which for some god forsaken reason is done in C.

This is going to be a great source of ridiculous, colorful, beautiful memory and pointer bugs, isn't it?

I taught a similar course when I was in undergrad, the language doesn't matter because students will always find a way to gently caress this up hilariously regardless, but you're in for some fun.

# ? Jan 6, 2015 08:16

ATM Machine: Aug 20, 2007; I paid $5 for this

Jsor posted:

This term I'm TAing an entry level, online course in Data Structures. Which for some god forsaken reason is done in C.

This is going to be a great source of ridiculous, colorful, beautiful memory and pointer bugs, isn't it?

Please keep us posted :allears:

e: actually, will they be coming in with any prerequisite C/<programming language> unit at all? If not then that's going to be a painful introduction to data structures.

# ? Jan 6, 2015 09:24

QuarkJets: Sep 8, 2008

I've done some teaching in physics, and we rarely ever have group projects, but when we do I've always tried to encourage people to narc on slacker team members. Staying quiet and dragging a useless teammate isn't doing any favors for anyone, least of all the person who isn't contributing; you're just avoiding a situation that you perceive as being slightly uncomfortable. It's cowardice. Stop being a little cowardly baby and tell your professor when someone is clearly falling behind and not pulling their weight.

# ? Jan 6, 2015 09:45

Hiowf: Jun 28, 2013; We don't do .DOC in my cave.

Jsor posted:

This term I'm TAing an entry level, online course in Data Structures. Which for some god forsaken reason is done in C.

This is going to be a great source of ridiculous, colorful, beautiful memory and pointer bugs, isn't it?

Sounds like a good way to breed Real(TM) programmers and weed out the wannabes.

# ? Jan 6, 2015 10:21

Hiowf: Jun 28, 2013; We don't do .DOC in my cave.

Manslaughter posted:

Surely you had some extracurricular you took part in?

"Well I was on a pretty good counter strike team..."

Might work better than you imagine. On the other hand, the interviewer could also reply with "I only play Call Of Duty" and then what?

# ? Jan 6, 2015 10:24

qntm: Jun 17, 2009

Wheany posted:

How do I parse HTML with regular expressions?

VERY CAREFULLY

# ? Jan 6, 2015 12:23

sarehu: Apr 20, 2007; (call/cc call/cc)

I'm glad people are still putting in a space between the , because they don't want to give up Netscape 4 compatibility.

# ? Jan 6, 2015 12:53

Wheany: Mar 17, 2006; Spinya^{ha^{ha^haha}ha}ha_{ha_{ha_haha}ha}ha!; Doctor Rope

sarehu posted:

I'm glad people are still putting in a space between the , because they don't want to give up Netscape 4 compatibility.

Well, they're still doing xhtml.

# ? Jan 6, 2015 13:58

Blotto Skorzany: Nov 7, 2008; He's a PSoC, loose and runnin'
came the whisper from each lip
And he's here to do some business with
the bad ADC on his chip
bad ADC on his chiiiiip

Jsor posted:

This term I'm TAing an entry level, online course in Data Structures. Which for some god forsaken reason is done in C.

This is going to be a great source of ridiculous, colorful, beautiful memory and pointer bugs, isn't it?

Since it's an online course, probably. Frankly I don't get why they'd go with C over C++ (enjoy casting back and forth with void* and friends to make generic data structures - and I say this as a C guy), but a data structures course is about the last place you'd want to use a language that lacks value semantics or explicit memory allocation.

# ? Jan 6, 2015 14:54

evensevenone: May 12, 2001; Glass is a solid.

It's really a question of whether it's a class to introduce people to the common CS data structures and how to use them, or whether it's a class on how to actually implement them. If it's the latter, then C totally makes sense.

I'm not sure if that would be an entry-level class, although CS curricula are so terrible that it probably is. Also, the former class seems to be sadly uncommon.

# ? Jan 6, 2015 17:36

Hiowf: Jun 28, 2013; We don't do .DOC in my cave.

evensevenone posted:

a class to introduce people to the common CS data structures and how to use them...former class seems to be sadly uncommon.

I don't even...what do you want that isn't covered by an explanation of big-O behavior of various operations, which is taught in algorithms classes?

# ? Jan 6, 2015 17:59

HappyHippo: Nov 19, 2003; Do you have an Air Miles Card?

ErIog posted:

It's too bad LaTeX isn't really a programming language since it would definitely qualify as a horror in many regards.

Seriously. I mean it's great in many ways, and it's very powerful, but man there are some dumb choices. Another good one: even though LaTeX has a standard convention for commands with arguments (the arguments are in { } braces following the command, eg "\frac{a}{b}") if you want to get an integral (or summation) sign with limits you need to use subscript and superscript. "\int" is the integral sign, "\int_a^b" is an integral from a to b. Why would you do that? It's not like it's taking the integral symbol and putting those superscripts/subscripts, the engine treats this as a special case. I always define my own sensible command so I can type "\intlimits{equation}{lower limit}{upper limit}" like it should have been in the first place.

# ? Jan 6, 2015 18:37

Evil_Greven: Feb 20, 2007; Whadda I got to,
whadda I got to do
to wake ya up?

To shake ya up,
to break the structure up!?

Skuto posted:

I don't even...what do you want that isn't covered by an explanation of big-O behavior of various operations, which is taught in algorithms classes?

I don't know about that course, but my university combined Data Structures & Algorithms into a single course, which is required in the ABET accredited general CS, Applied CS, IT, and now the new SE programs. That was the gatekeeper course, prerequisite for the chains of upper level courses. A lot of students don't get past it.

Big-O was discussed more in a class called Discrete Structures (prerequisite to the above course), which was a CS adaptation of Discrete Mathematics.

# ? Jan 6, 2015 18:48

Hiowf: Jun 28, 2013; We don't do .DOC in my cave.

So you're saying you learnt data structures and algorithms, but no-one ever brought up the big-O behavior of those because that was something "mathematical" that was already discussed in a past course?

Mind = Blown

# ? Jan 6, 2015 18:55

QuarkJets: Sep 8, 2008

HappyHippo posted:

Seriously. I mean it's great in many ways, and it's very powerful, but man there are some dumb choices. Another good one: even though LaTeX has a standard convention for commands with arguments (the arguments are in { } braces following the command, eg "\frac{a}{b}") if you want to get an integral (or summation) sign with limits you need to use subscript and superscript. "\int" is the integral sign, "\int_a^b" is an integral from a to b. Why would you do that? It's not like it's taking the integral symbol and putting those superscripts/subscripts, the engine treats this as a special case. I always define my own sensible command so I can type "\intlimits{equation}{lower limit}{upper limit}" like it should have been in the first place.

Using superscripts/subscripts to denote upper/lower bounds on an integral feels intuitive to non-CS majors, a majority of LaTeX users, and there's literally no other reason to use a superscript/subscript on an integral sign. This might be a horror to someone who designs computer languages, but it's also a helpful feature for users.

I don't know where to draw the line between "let's make this programming language as beautiful as possible" and "let's make something that's easy to use and produces nice output", but it seems like a lot of language decisions put these two ideas in conflict

QuarkJets fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Jan 6, 2015

# ? Jan 6, 2015 19:31

Evil_Greven: Feb 20, 2007; Whadda I got to,
whadda I got to do
to wake ya up?

To shake ya up,
to break the structure up!?

Skuto posted:

So you're saying you learnt data structures and algorithms, but no-one ever brought up the big-O behavior of those because that was something "mathematical" that was already discussed in a past course?

Mind = Blown

Not exactly, but then the course was a bit unstructured - the professor was fairly new and had never taught the course before, nor was it that professor's specialty. The schedule was perpetually behind. For example, Dijkstra's algorithm was mentioned on a single day, near the end of the term. Then, naturally, it was a large component of the final. I suspect a lot of my classmates failed that course.

There was only brief mention of time complexity for some data structures and algorithms. Perhaps justifiably so, as calculating time complexity was covered in Discrete Structures extensively, with a week or two devoted to that alone. By that point, students should have been able to figure it out on their own rather than just memorize it.

# ? Jan 6, 2015 19:38

feedmegin: Jul 30, 2008

qntm posted:

VERY CAREFULLY

I assume everyone here has seen http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1732348/regex-match-open-tags-except-xhtml-self-contained-tags by this point...

# ? Jan 6, 2015 19:46

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Zopotantor: Feb 24, 2013; ...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

HappyHippo posted:

Seriously. I mean it's great in many ways, and it's very powerful, but man there are some dumb choices. Another good one: even though LaTeX has a standard convention for commands with arguments (the arguments are in { } braces following the command, eg "\frac{a}{b}") if you want to get an integral (or summation) sign with limits you need to use subscript and superscript. "\int" is the integral sign, "\int_a^b" is an integral from a to b. Why would you do that? It's not like it's taking the integral symbol and putting those superscripts/subscripts, the engine treats this as a special case. I always define my own sensible command so I can type "\intlimits{equation}{lower limit}{upper limit}" like it should have been in the first place.

The "\int_a^b" notation is inherited from base TeX, while "\frac" is LaTeX specific.
Also, "\int_a^b" is not actually a special case; in an inline formula, the limits will be typeset as sub/superscripts, it's only displayed formulas that are treated specially.

# ? Jan 6, 2015 20:26

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