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Sulecrist posted:I'd like to propose something that I participated in for Warmachine a couple of years ago: Play It Painted 2015. I've only ever played painted models and that's the way it'll always be! If you wanna play some kill team exclusively next time we meet up I'm down. I don't think I'll be doing Orks again for killteam, but I have a Guard team ready to go and probably will have an Inquisition one too at some point.
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Arven posted:I've only ever played painted models and that's the way it'll always be! Sure thing! My Chaos kill team is beyond awful and fully painted. I can't wait to play it, although even with a sea of LOS-blocking terrain I think it'll get cut right apart. I really want to do a Vostroyan team too but that's much further down the line.
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BULBASAUR posted:All of mankind's war machines are based on farm equipment What do those translate to in Mechanicum terms? Space robots sound super cool.
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For admech you need book 3 or book 2. They will get a red book eventually, so you could hold out for that, but book 3 has the most comprehensive list. To get started, you'll need:
Admech is really low model count, so its pretty cheap for a FW army (unless you buy FW thralls, then it gets way more expensive). Again you should check out the rules first before building your army, but all 3 of those are troop choices that are useful in one way or another. Some pretty powerful builds you can do with them too.
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Just ordered some Breacher Siege squads. Not looking forward to painting them yellow.
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Awesome. I really like playing low model count armies too, they appeal to what Warhammer is about more to me (strong dudes smashing poo poo) I will find a book and read over the crap before I place a FW order.
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Castellax are just the best and should be played forever and ever, amen.
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So I am planning on using Honor Guard as my primary assault unit in my army list, and while the Chapter Banner for extra attacks seems like a no-brainer at 25 points, I was wondering if anyone thinks the Standard of The Emperor Ascendant is worth the significantly higher point cost for hatred. I have been doing some number crunching to compare them against an equal cost squad of assault terminators, and despite a survivability difference due to terminator armor or storm shields I just fail to see how Honor Guard aren't an overall better choice(assuming you have a Chapter Master to access them) with their much higher attacks and ranged weapons that allow them to soften enemies for a charge or perform overwatch. Would I perhaps be better off giving them a Librarian with Biomancy or a Chaplain?
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"Better than Terminators" isn't really a very high bar to measure to, sadly, but Honor Guard definitely blow past it pretty easily. As far as flags go, Hatred is better than +1A, but I don't think it's really THAT much better, especially considering chances are your banner will get murdered sooner or later and you'll lose the bonus. A Librarian would be a decent buffing unit, but Biomancy is probably not your first choice- it has some good spells in it, but Telepathy will do a better job of keeping you alive and that's the main problem for Honor Guard; Divination is also extremely handy if you're playing Mantis Warriors or one of the one or two others that gets access to it (Tiggy, etc.) However, given that you're probably already sinking a bunch of points into a Chapter Master already, you probably shouldn't go for a second HQ just because of cost reasons. How you're delivering them to the enemy is also a big concern- Land Raider? Drop Pod? Rhino? All of them can have some merit, but they result in very different setups that you'll want to aim for.
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I was accidently killing Terminators when my shots scattered yesterday,
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So, I'm building a Space Wolves army. I'm mostly doing this for painting purposes, rather than for play, but I would like it to be a playable army, just so I can say I did it right. Right now, I've got a lot of basic infantry (from the Warriors of the Fang and Stormclaw boxes), and most of the named character units (lucky eBay find). Only vehicles I have right now are a stormwolf, a razorback and a drop pod. Any suggestions for other vehicles I should get? I've heard that Space Wolves have more restrictions on which vehicles they can have, so I don't want to get the wrong ones.
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If you break down the points of an honour guard they're crazy cheap for what you get. 14 pts for a marine. 15 pts for a power weapon usually. +1 attack and Ld... 10 pts? 2+ save, usually 10 pts Saving of around 24pts per model.
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If anyone could give me feedback on my 1850 pt list, I'd appreciate it. I'm trying to pull off mechanized orks with a solid shooting presence. Hopefully this list will give me the mobility I need to claim objectives and the redundancy I need to stay on the table.  SRM DON'T READ THIS MAWBoss, Bosspole, Cybork, Lucky Stikk Big Mek, Shock Attack Gun, Gitfinda, Ammo Runt x3 Meganobz x3 w/ Kombi-Skorcha, Boss Meganob w/ Killsaws, Bosspole [warboss goes here] - Trukk w/ Reinforced Ram, Big Shoota Tankbustas x9, Boss Nob w/ Bosspole, Power Klaw - Battlewagon w/ Reinforced Ram, Kannon Slugga Boyz x11, Heavy Armor, Boss Nob w/ Bosspole, Power Klaw, Kombi Skorcha - Trukk w/ Reinforced Ram, Rokkit Launcha Slugga Boyz x11, Heavy Armor, Boss Nob w/ Bosspole, Power Klaw, Kombi Skorcha - Trukk w/ Reinforced Ram, Rokkit Launcha Gretchin x10, Runtherd [big mek goes here] Warbuggy x2, Skorcha, wartrak Warbuggy, TL-Rokkit, wartrak Warbuggy, TL-Rokkit, wartrak Lootas x10 Flash Gitz x 9, Kaptin - Battlewagon w/ Reinforced Ram, Killkannon It seems like a really nice, "round" list to me. What do y'all think? Ignite Memories fucked around with this message at 08:47 on Jan 7, 2015 |
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I'm going to a 1350pt tournament soon. What follows is what my practice opponents have called 'Certainly A List I Guess?'. quote:HQ I am yet to win a game with this list, yet it is the most fun I have had playing Warhammer 40,000 in years. The Haemonculus has killed more things than he has any right to, sometimes the Wyches make it to combat, and gently caress the Internet, the Voidraven is a dope model that dies easy but is hella sweet. Felt good to enjoy playing games.
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Anyone tried Forgeworld's Vulture gunship? I kinda want one as an escort fighter for my tempestus scions. is it a decent kit and is it useful on the battlefield.
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Only if you model it like this:    
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That's rad as gently caress
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BULBASAUR posted:Only if you model it like this: 
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It's a decent kit, yeah. At least it was 7 or 8 years ago when I assembled mine.
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Is there someone with an Imperial Knight who would kindly be able to get me the measurements for these red lines, plus the width at the blade and the base? Mate of mine is costing out some ideas for making alternate weapons some people have asked him about, but he doesn't have a Knight of his own to measure NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 12:22 on Jan 7, 2015 |
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Jan 7, 2015 12:18
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Tech thralls: las-locks or mitralocks?
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"Warhammer 40k: The point of 40K fiction is to give you a climax" okay, where is this from? Also, I heard they actually made the game slightly reasonable in the new edition and you can mix up your armies if you don't want to spend any more money. BULBASAUR posted:Only if you model it like this: "A Hind-D? Colonel, what's a Russian gunship doing here?"
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Frobbe posted:Anyone tried Forgeworld's Vulture gunship? I kinda want one as an escort fighter for my tempestus scions. is it a decent kit and is it useful on the battlefield. I can't speak to the kit, as I converted mine, but it is an absolute monster on the field. Strafing Run + Vector Dancer means that it is pretty much impossible to escape from and will consistently hit its targets. TL Punisher Cannon is probably the best loadout (and who doesn't love throwing a brick full of dice at things?), but 4x Multiple Rocket Pods isn't too bad, either, and does a similar job if you're more of a large blast fetishist. Punisher version is also surprisingly good at shooting down other airplanes due to the ability to get into their rear arc and dump S5 shots on them. Lungboy posted:Tech thralls: las-locks or mitralocks? Never Mitralocks. 9" range is just too short to ever get shots off, basically, and adding Shred to the weapon isn't nearly enough to make up for the other losses. Laslocks with Induction Charges are the "right" way to go, but Heavy Chainblades can be pretty amusing as well and aren't actually that bad. Carapace Armor is recommended in either case.
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NTRabbit posted:Is there someone with an Imperial Knight who would kindly be able to get me the measurements for these red lines, plus the width at the blade and the base? 1 and 6/8ths" from chainblade tip to the first cog-doodle. Just over 2" from tip to behind the cog. 1.5cm blade height. About 1/4" for the width. If he's planning on buying a pile of these he really should buy one from someone and get familiar with it himself.
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AbusePuppy posted:"Better than Terminators" isn't really a very high bar to measure to, sadly, but Honor Guard definitely blow past it pretty easily. As far as flags go, Hatred is better than +1A, but I don't think it's really THAT much better, especially considering chances are your banner will get murdered sooner or later and you'll lose the bonus. A Librarian would be a decent buffing unit, but Biomancy is probably not your first choice- it has some good spells in it, but Telepathy will do a better job of keeping you alive and that's the main problem for Honor Guard; Divination is also extremely handy if you're playing Mantis Warriors or one of the one or two others that gets access to it (Tiggy, etc.) However, given that you're probably already sinking a bunch of points into a Chapter Master already, you probably shouldn't go for a second HQ just because of cost reasons. This is really my dilemma at this point. I initially wanted to use a Stormraven, but someone pointed out that if it crashes then I am likely to lose every guy due to lack of invul saves, but the Stormraven is also the most durable flier SMs have, and if interceptor fire is so heavy that my Stormraven is going to have problems, then they will sure as gently caress die in a drop pod. My initial army build is going to be a infantry centric setup, with the intent of being able to choose between going full drop pods or full razorbacks/rhinos. Just from what I've seen battrep-wise the idea of using drop pod assault, while using Ultramarine tactical doctrine(twice if I bring Calgar) really seems to just hit like a mother fucker. Basically I'm working towards 3 tactical squads and 2 heavily kitted sternguard squads all loaded in pods, with fliers in reserve carrying the Honor Guard who are meant to be the final blow. Calgar was meant to come out in the first wave to help protect those troops along with providing his nice special rules, and an orbital bombardment. Edit: Also when I said Biomancy, I was thinking it was the one that had the power that granted a 4+ invul, but I don't have my rulebook next me. Neither way, I figured that would be the easiest way to counter to vulnerability. If I chose to drop pod them into battle they would be exposed for a turn, and I would say a librarian would almost be a requirement to help them stay alive. I suppose depending on a terrain I could just drop them out of LOS and hope that keeps them going.
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Post 9-11 User posted:If he's planning on buying a pile of these he really should buy one from someone and get familiar with it himself. Sculpting an entire alternative, not buying, and he was under the impression the chainsaw blade was a separate unit from the hilt until he found that photo of the sprue and was disappointed. He's still doing the sums anyway. Thanks though.
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I started costing out some 30k stuff and holy poo poo. A Tactical Squad in a Rhino with all of the Legion-specific doodads can run well over $200, even taking advantage of FW's very thoughtful bundle deals. This is a nice incentive to get my backlog painted, since I'll need to save 100% of my model budget for like a year if I want to get even a thousand points of purely FW stuff.
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Sulecrist posted:I started costing out some 30k stuff and holy poo poo. A Tactical Squad in a Rhino with all of the Legion-specific doodads can run well over $200, even taking advantage of FW's very thoughtful bundle deals. This is a nice incentive to get my backlog painted, since I'll need to save 100% of my model budget for like a year if I want to get even a thousand points of purely FW stuff. Welcome to 30k!
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WAR FOOT posted:I'm going to a 1350pt tournament soon. If you enjoy playing with it, that's all that matters, so I'm not gonna critique it and suggest you replace everything with warriors and boats.  That said, your haemon can't take haywire grenades.
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uncleKitchener posted:"Warhammer 40k: The point of 40K fiction is to give you a climax" From an argument... uhm... discussion... about the 40k Setting and weather it should move forward or not.
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Ghost Hand posted:Welcome to 30k! I'm not saying Carl is an international drug king pin, but I'm not, not saying that.
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Indolent Bastard posted:I'm not saying Carl is an international drug king pin, but I'm not, not saying that. He pushes that plastic and resin crack out the door as fast as it comes in.
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Ghost Hand posted:Welcome to 30k! Not shown off-camera: juiceless kids
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Hencoe posted:He pushes that plastic and resin crack out the door as fast as it comes in. Cataphract came back from America, his skin looked jaundiced, his eyes bloodshot and he was clutching a receipt from FW for a Night Lord army. That was just one afternoon with Carl.
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Ghost Hand posted:From an argument... uhm... discussion... about the 40k Setting and weather it should move forward or not. It was very fortunate phrasing on my part when I was explaining that the purpose of 40K fluff is to set up these climactic battles that you play out on the table. I stand by what I said and how I said it. 
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How many Breacher squads is too many in a Stone Gaunlet list? I want those BS5 T5 Breacher Squads.
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Ghost Hand posted:From an argument... uhm... discussion... about the 40k Setting and weather it should move forward or not. Silly me because I thought this was official word of god.
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Ghost Hand posted:Welcome to 30k! Going by your most recent episode's definition, I spend about a Carl a year on minis. Edit: man when the Calth book drops I'm so hosed.
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Ignite Memories posted:
Sulecrist posted:Going by your most recent episode's definition, I spend about a Carl a year on minis.
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