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Austrian mook posted:Some people just want to enjoy some laid-back, late-night FE. Pour yourself a warm glass of tea and enjoy. It's not latenight yet. This could have easily been swapped with the rogue-lite block.
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Gibbo posted:It's nerd primetime. No actually, most of North America doesn't stay up until 3 AM every night watching twitch.
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Gibbo posted:It's not latenight yet. This could have easily been swapped with the rogue-lite block. I'm looking forward to the Binding of Issac run.
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Austrian mook posted:No actually, most of North America doesn't stay up until 3 AM every night watching twitch. No, but most twitch users and speedrunners do.
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i just looked up fft speedruns and apparently WR is over 4 hours so RD is objectively the better choice here
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I can't wait to revisit this conversation when Kingdom Hearts is streamed at the exact same timeslot.
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Honestly, this game being played in this time slot isn't a big deal. Them doing a 40 minute block of Marisa Land at 8pm on a Monday was a much larger affront. Also, this run isn't even bad, it's just kinda... eh? His planning and menu execution is ridiculous, but this probably isn't all that fun to watch for a lot of people. Shimrra Jamaane posted:Speaking of which, is Cosmo there? He isn't running anything. You'd think he'd at least run Commander Keen or something if he's tired of Zelda. He did some commentary during the Keen block earlier, but it was pretty forgettable.
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Gibbo posted:It's not latenight yet. This could have easily been swapped with the rogue-lite block. it likely couldn't have been because timetabling a marathon is a logistical clusterfuck of clashing schedules, I'm not saying the schedule as it is is the only way it could've possibly been but this poo poo isn't thrown together with no sense. everytime you want to say something stupid about the timetabling or how it would've been "easy to do" this or that, I want you to not because nothing about the organisational side of this event is particularly easy and you just want stuff to bend to your personal opinions anyway. like I'm not even watching the run because fire emblem bores the poo poo out of me but man are you whiny and wrong about it
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Zurreco posted:Honestly, this game being played in this time slot isn't a big deal. Them doing a 40 minute block of Marisa Land at 8pm on a Monday was a much larger affront. I can see how people not familiar with Fire Emblem wouldn't really understand what's going on or why what's being done is impressive.
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Zurreco posted:He did some commentary on a run earlier, but it was pretty forgettable. Pretty sure he's just burned the gently caress out at this point. Which has gotta suck because at his popularity level he literally makes his living off speedrunning. I'll always remember 2011/2012 when he was an absolute Zelda speedrunning freak of nature. He's a massive reason why speedrunning ballooned so massively in popularity during that two year span even though it had been a thing for years. The big name Zelda speedrunners on Twitch had their viewership counts grow exponentially. Shimrra Jamaane fucked around with this message at 07:46 on Jan 7, 2015 |
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Brother Entropy posted:i just looked up fft speedruns and apparently WR is over 4 hours so RD is objectively the better choice here Any% is 3:58 by El_Magus, no math is a bit longer. There is also significantly more to the FFT run than this. I would also never argue for FFT to be in a good time slot. Strange Quark posted:I can't wait to revisit this conversation when Kingdom Hearts is streamed at the exact same timeslot. There are more KH fans than Fire Emblem, and the run involves more than just fast menuing.
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Austrian mook posted:I can see how people not familiar with Fire Emblem wouldn't really understand what's going on or why what's being done is impressive. Their commentary also isn't involving enough for how complicated everything is that's happening. They're also skipping so much story content which is one of the biggest selling points of the series. As someone who has played and enjoyed a few FE titles, every time I switch to the stream I just go "oh cool, still rolling through the missions..." and then switch to something else.
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Gibbo posted:There are more KH fans than Fire Emblem Are there even?
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Austrian mook posted:Are there even? In NA and EU, yes. I don't think most of the Japanese fandom is going to partake of an English only stream/fundraiser. http://www.vgchartz.com/game/1129/kingdom-hearts/ North America: 3.64m 56.9% + Europe: 1.20m 18.7% + Japan: 1.49m 23.3% + Rest of the World: 0.07m 1.1% = Global 6.40m http://www.vgchartz.com/game/70704/fire-emblem-awakening/ Total Units North America: 0.55m 38.4% + Europe: 0.29m 20.2% + Japan: 0.52m 36.2% + Rest of the World: 0.07m 5.2% = Global 1.43m http://www.vgchartz.com/game/12971/fire-emblem-radiant-dawn/ North America: 0.26m 54.3% + Europe: 0.03m 5.5% + Japan: 0.17m 34.4% + Rest of the World: 0.03m 5.7% = Global 0.48m the first KH alone tripled the sales of this FE + the best selling FE. Gibbo fucked around with this message at 07:51 on Jan 7, 2015 |
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dpbjinc posted:mods please move the thread to byob for all runs longer than an hour okay bye we already have a thread for it. We don't really care much for this oen either but its all good. We're just rewatching the mario guy.
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Austrian mook posted:Are there even? probably yeah but because it's something even vaguely akin to a JRPG people are still going to whinge themselves inside out when it comes on. People complained about the KH run during Crystals For Life which is a speedrun marathon exclusively populated by JRPGs which is the most baffling complaint I ever did see.
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Austrian mook posted:Are there even? FE almost was canceled as a franchise while anime disney-final fantasy is still milking money so probably
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Gibbo posted:No, but most twitch users and speedrunners do. So you're saying Twitch is more active at night? You do realize that the stream usually gets around 110K~ during the day and it's 74K right now because people are asleep right? I'm willing to bet a good chunk of those views are people that have also just left the stream open for the evening. Austrian mook posted:I can see how people not familiar with Fire Emblem wouldn't really understand what's going on or why what's being done is impressive. This; I have no clue what's going on and the visuals and audio aren't good enough to really keep me watching for three hours.
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In case you're not up for sitting through another hour and a half of FE, apparently there's this stream of folks at AGDQ getting ready to race Yoshi's Island. e: rip my ears, this might be worse Walkin Goon fucked around with this message at 07:55 on Jan 7, 2015 |
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Zurreco posted:Their commentary also isn't involving enough for how complicated everything is that's happening. They're also skipping so much story content which is one of the biggest selling points of the series. As someone who has played and enjoyed a few FE titles, every time I switch to the stream I just go "oh cool, still rolling through the missions..." and then switch to something else. It's a rough run to commentate. The guy in the striped shirt was providing almost non stop solid commentary during the Dawn Brigade chapters but it seems like he's run out of stuff to talk about once Gwimpage started deploying around 4 units per map.
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i know this is the dorkiest thing in the world to say but woah that menuing is wicked fast
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Gamerofthegame posted:FE almost was canceled as a franchise while anime disney-final fantasy is still milking money so probably Well but Awakening was the best selling game in franchise history and I don't really know anyone who gives a poo poo about Kingdom Hearts. Not saying you're wrong, I just don't know anything about Kingdom Hearts, not my cup of tea I guess.
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Yo, dudes, guess what? There are awesome games being speedran in this stream. Some of them you might not like, others you do. Filling up the thread with "this game is so boring to WATCH" isn't going to change that and just sucks the fun out of this major charity event that others might be enjoying and degrades the thread into arguments about opinions on those video games. So, yeah, there.
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Ike is really the best main character in a video game ever.
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Sire Oblivion posted:So you're saying Twitch is more active at night? You do realize that the stream usually gets around 110K~ during the day and it's 74K right now because people are asleep right? I'm willing to bet a good chunk of those views are people that have also just left the stream open for the evening. At this time last night the stream was still at 90+. Reposting this for people only reading the last 3 posts. KH Sales = Global 6.40m KH2 sales ~4m Awakening sales: = Global 1.43m Radiant Dawn Sales: = Global 0.48m
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no but it doesnt DESERVE to be here this is a conspiracy. who did gwimpage pay off for this??? E: hoooooooly poo poo vgchartz. logic abounds.
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Gibbo posted:A bunch of VG Chartz links 
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Gibbo posted:In NA and EU, yes. I don't think most of the Japanese fandom is going to partake of an English only stream/fundraiser. lol vgchartz
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This is why VG Chartz is still around. Because you use some site that literally makes up numbers just to make a stupid point.
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see I totally believe those numbers as well but still lol vgchartz your point is still dumb
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Austrian mook posted:Well but Awakening was the best selling game in franchise history and I don't really know anyone who gives a poo poo about Kingdom Hearts. Not saying you're wrong, I just don't know anything about Kingdom Hearts, not my cup of tea I guess. Kingdom Hearts is a huge loving thing, it's caters towards Disney and Square fans so it selling like crazy is to be expected, I don't think Fire Emblem's sales are even remotely comparable. Not saying Gibbo has a point, because he should really just shut up, but KH is really, really god drat big.
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But like, how many people still care about Kingdom Hearts was what I was asking, not how much KH2 sold back in the day.
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Sire Oblivion posted:Kingdom Hearts is a huge loving thing, it's caters towards Disney and Square fans so it selling like crazy is to be expected, I don't think Fire Emblem's sales are even remotely comparable. Not saying Gibbo has a point, because he should really just shut up, but KH is really, really god drat big. Huh, weird. I haven't looked at any numbers or anything I just don't know anyone who gives a gently caress about KH and I know lots of people who played Awakening.
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Austrian mook posted:But like, how many people still care about Kingdom Hearts was what I was asking, not how much KH2 sold back in the day. Considering they just re-issued KH2 in HD and the expensive collectors box sold out in pre-order, a fuckload. Austrian mook posted:Huh, weird. I haven't looked at any numbers or anything I just don't know anyone who gives a gently caress about KH and I know lots of people who played Awakening. Because your friends who like the same games as you are obviously a great representation of the greater market.
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Austrian mook posted:But like, how many people still care about Kingdom Hearts was what I was asking, not how much KH2 sold back in the day. A lot of people, man. I care! KH is cool. His point is correct but it's still dumb.
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Austrian mook posted:Huh, weird. I haven't looked at any numbers or anything I just don't know anyone who gives a gently caress about KH and I know lots of people who played Awakening. Awakening was legit one of the best games of 2013, KH hasn't had a good game since like 2010, so it's not really a talking point right now. But 12,000 twitch viewers may have been lost (??) so outrage.
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