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priznat posted:Same, sounds like we have similar plans - the 50Mbps? Internet speed is fantastic but I do worry about hitting the 400 gig cap. Especially in a month with a Steam sale! The whole Telus cap bullshit is the major reason I left them and went to teksavvy unlimited in the first place. I rarely would come anywhere near a cap it but between streaming and downloading games for the PS3/Steam it's not crazy to go over limits.
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I feel like I've made a terrible mistake but I've just signed up for Bell Fibe 25/25 deal with a 300gb cap for $55 (the other deal was 50/50 with 150gb cap for $50, unlimited bandwidth would cost +$30 a month), which is actually somewhat reasonable all things considered. I'm moving into a brand new condo and apparently Teksavvy literally has no lines they can sell to it because Bell didn't give them any so they can sell Fibe to all the yuppies moving into it. I have an irrational dislike of cable stemming from the old "I can never reach my advertised bandwidth because all my neighbors are leaving Kazaa on at all times" and also 30/5 costs the same as the Fibe deal for 300GB cap. Technically Rogers fibre is also an option but my experience with Rogers support is even worse than Bell so there's that. Moving sucks, I wish Novus existed out east but oh well. When I inevitably get dinged somehow by Bell I'll make sure everyone knows. Eej fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Jan 5, 2015 |
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Eej posted:I feel like I've made a terrible mistake but I've just signed up for Bell Fibe 25/25 deal with a 300gb cap for $55 (the other deal was 50/50 with 150gb cap for $50, unlimited bandwidth would cost +$30 a month), which is actually somewhat reasonable all things considered. I'm moving into a brand new condo and apparently Teksavvy literally has no lines they can sell to it because Bell didn't give them any so they can sell Fibe to all the yuppies moving into it. I have an irrational dislike of cable stemming from the old "I can never reach my advertised bandwidth because all my neighbors are leaving Kazaa on at all times" and also 30/5 costs the same as the Fibe deal for 300GB cap. If you are in Toronto then check to see if you can get Beanfield or Coextro. If you do, or it's coming, make sure you don't sign a contract.
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I just checked and they're not available. The condo I'm moving into was finished in December and the only lines I could find going into it are Bell Fibe and Rogers (+ Teksavvy cable somehow). I'm assuming they signed a sweet deal for exclusivity since it's a 74 storey tower.
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Jan 5, 2015 07:44
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So what's with the rumors of Netflix blocking VPNs? CBC story says the official Netflix statement says you shouldn't and it violates terms of service, but it seems unclear if that means they're going to actually do anything about it. http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/netflix-upholds-geoblocking-rules-amid-reports-of-crackdown-1.2889895
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I'd say no matter what they are going to have to start to do something. Everyone's aunt and uncle knows how to block google dns/buy unlimited vpn/use a browser extension to flip to any country they want. Its impossible to have a discussion about netflix on a Canadian site without the discussion being choked with it. The point was made elsewhere that hollywood is the one creating the market for the media VPN industry, and pushing customers towards handing over a snowballing amount of money each month to an unrelated 3rd party, to protect increasingly senseless geographic distribution deals. I read a while ago that Netflix only wants to negotiate global deals from here on out, this is probably some scaremongering and drum banging for either side of that negotiation table. Geo-IP cannot last forever now that there are a large number of people trained and happy to pay extra to defeat it. Its just another round of Hollywood repeating the same segment of history that was spent claiming that the VCR will be the death of them. They are so dead set against taking anything but the specific money they want to get at the exact time and from the exact place.
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To be honest I switched my DNS back over for Canadian Netflix a couple weeks ago to watch something on there and haven't bothered to switch it back. It's vastly improved from what it was like, with a lot of good stuff that isn't on the USA one even. It's nice having the option, of course.
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I hear Chile is the hottest netflix right now. Maybe netflix content follows a seasonal migratory pattern.
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slidebite posted:So what's with the rumors of Netflix blocking VPNs? CBC story says the official Netflix statement says you shouldn't and it violates terms of service, but it seems unclear if that means they're going to actually do anything about it. Yeah, I'm glad I quit before it renewed today. I guess I'll just go back to traditional Canadian methods of acquiring US content. gently caress Rogers' content exclusivity deals. Rogers delenda est
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priznat posted:To be honest I switched my DNS back over for Canadian Netflix a couple weeks ago to watch something on there and haven't bothered to switch it back. It's vastly improved from what it was like, with a lot of good stuff that isn't on the USA one even. I did the same a while back, but I've recently started using US Netflix again. They pulled all of Star Trek from Canadian Netflix... except TNG and the lovely TNG movies.
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Kazinsal posted:I did the same a while back, but I've recently started using US Netflix again. They pulled all of Star Trek from Canadian Netflix... except TNG and the lovely TNG movies. My understanding (from random industry types Tweeting) is that they did this because Bell outbid them for the Canadian online rights and it'll be on CraveTV instead. Competition, etc.
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Dallan Invictus posted:My understanding (from random industry types Tweeting) is that they did this because Bell outbid them for the Canadian online rights and it'll be on CraveTV instead. Thank you, Bell. I definitely wanted to change my TV and internet services to a completely new provider AND pay for another video-on-demand service just so I could have the pleasure of watching Deep Space Nine on my computer when I get a Star Trek urge. Fucksakes.
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This is just another cable bundled channel package with different nomenclature. poo poo still sucks in iTunes kind of does this except it blows.
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Except you have to be on Bell to use it, which requires me to not have Shaw cable and not live in Vancouver.
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Zigmidge posted:This is just another cable bundled channel package with different nomenclature. Pretty much, Crave needs you to have Bell services, shomi needs Rogers. I would literally need to move to even use shomi since I'm not in a Rogers service area 
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Content providers still don't understand the internet, news at 11.
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37th Chamber posted:Pretty much, Crave needs you to have Bell services, shomi needs Rogers. Apparently Telus Optik or Eastlink cable subscribers can also use Crave, and Shaw cable subscribers can use shomi, (and theoretically more providers to come on both sides but, well, yeah) but it's still mostly an issue of: infernal machines posted:Content providers still don't understand the internet, news at 11. And/or "content producers think more money is better than less money, so they'll sell exclusive rights because they can charge more and they'll geographically parcel rights to the same program so they can sell them multiple times to different sets of competitors each time." Dallan Invictus fucked around with this message at 01:50 on Jan 6, 2015 |
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infernal machines posted:Content providers still don't understand the internet, news at 11. I look forward to a future of content network exclusivity in news reporting. Crave will have the train and boat disasters, Shomi will have passenger air crashes and aborted takeoffs. Telus' fake netflix will have air cargo and cable car mishaps while Videotron has exclusive rights to broadcast all stories involving car on slow moving farm equipment traffic mishaps.
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infernal machines posted:Content providers still don't understand the internet, news at 11. Nah, at this point it's fairly evident that it's normies that don't understand the internet. Content providers are giving most people what they think they want.
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Shaw did what everyone found out even after they said they wouldn't. https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/2ri6ma/as_promised_shaw_lowered_their_speeds_by_60_for/ As visible on their website, you'll notice all price tiers are now 60% slower. For example 25Mb/s used to be $60, now that only gets your 15Mb/s. 100Mb/s used to be $90, now that only gets you 60Mb/s (also with no option for any faster internet) This is a follow up to this post. I'm disappointed with the direction Canadian internet is taking lately, but not surprised all our feedback fell on deaf ears. I never checked the prices of Telus before this change, so I'm not sure but I'm fairly certain you used to be able to get 25 for $60 a month, it's now $68.
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Vintersorg posted:Shaw did what everyone found out even after they said they wouldn't. Of course they did that, they couldn't afford to keep charging that for bandwidth (unless the spent a tiny amount of money expanding their service)
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Vintersorg posted:Shaw did what everyone found out even after they said they wouldn't. I'm on the 50/3 right now and it went up to 85 minus the 5 dollar discount I have for running the SamKnows device they gave me. MTS is 81 for 50/5 so its about even still. Everyone fucks you equally.
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What I honestly find totally ridiculous is how little caps have changed - on some cases they've gotten tighter. Considering we're downloading more then ever and downloads are bigger and often mandatory (most ps4s and xbones come with download codes rather then physical media) I thought products and services were supposed to improve with technology and time, not get worse.
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Oxyclean posted:I thought products and services were supposed to improve with technology and time, not get worse.
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Oxyclean posted:What I honestly find totally ridiculous is how little caps have changed - on some cases they've gotten tighter. Considering we're downloading more then ever and downloads are bigger and often mandatory (most ps4s and xbones come with download codes rather then physical media) Of course, and the more people are downloading, the more infrastructure should grow. Except that costs money, and cutting people's caps and speeds doesn't.
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Vintersorg posted:Shaw did what everyone found out even after they said they wouldn't. This is just the reality of over selling their service. Now that peoples' usage is scaling up the insufficiencies of the networks is showing itself. When they sold you unlimited they could only do that when the average usage was 0.001 mbps. Now that the average usage is 0.01 mbps they have to scale everything back. I have bad news for you if you think this is the end because you will be paying another $30 more in five years when the average usage is 0.1mbps.
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Eej posted:I just checked and they're not available. The condo I'm moving into was finished in December and the only lines I could find going into it are Bell Fibe and Rogers (+ Teksavvy cable somehow). I'm assuming they signed a sweet deal for exclusivity since it's a 74 storey tower. There is some bullshit where bell doesn't have to allow resellers access to new fiber installations (FTTH/premsis). So Rogers has cables running there, they can sell you service, and teksavvy can resell you service. I'd probably opt for the teksavvy over bell, but that's me. I've generally had favorable results with cable over DSL as a broad statement. I've had issues with ISP's but the issues could have been the same with the alternative provider in the area.
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Oxyclean posted:I thought products and services were supposed to improve with technology and time, not get worse. Cmon son this thread is now four years old and the title still stands and will forever until the government takes over the last mile
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Oxyclean posted:I thought products and services were supposed to improve with technology and time, not get worse. How's your mobile phone contract been working out for you.
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I'm not even mad when Youtube is slow, we're using a local ISP with unlimited bandwidth so I accept that it isn't very fast. What annoys me is the little blue pop up underneath- "Are you having interruptions? Want to know why?" I already know why, Youtube, It's because I'm in Canada. I don't need your smug rear end to tell me that.
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YggiDee posted:I'm not even mad when Youtube is slow, we're using a local ISP with unlimited bandwidth so I accept that it isn't very fast. What annoys me is the little blue pop up underneath- "Are you having interruptions? Want to know why?" I already know why, Youtube, It's because I'm in Canada. I don't need your smug rear end to tell me that. Are you running YouTube Center? You could play around with DASH playback and custom buffering to see if that helps at all.
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less than three posted:How's your mobile phone contract been working out for you. I'm with wind, so the price is nice! ... But the coverage is lacking. 
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Update on the Netflix VPN blocking story http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/netflix-geoblocking-in-canada-a-game-of-whack-a-mole-1.2890915 quote:Netflix spokesman Edwards said the company has "done nothing new recently to block VPNs," despite reports the streaming service was cracking down on online tools that trick the system. Much longer story at the link but not much real meat other than that.
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Zigmidge posted:How do you even stop vpn traffic without loving around with people's actual roaming? Block the netblocks registered to known VPN providers?
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37th Chamber posted:I believe Teksavvy is actually losing money with the $5 dry-loop fee, the band charges range from $6 all the way up to $20. $4.25 - $22.10, Although DSL realistically tops out at rate band C, so you're talking $4.25 - $7.22 (source: pg 11 of the tariff: http://www.bce.ca/aboutbce/regulatory/tariffs/bellcanada/details/tariff/GT/___5______/_5410_____ )
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Eej posted:I just checked and they're not available. The condo I'm moving into was finished in December and the only lines I could find going into it are Bell Fibe and Rogers (+ Teksavvy cable somehow). I'm assuming they signed a sweet deal for exclusivity since it's a 74 storey tower. Your "Fibe" isn't DSL (note the 25 upload), so there's no TPIA access to it. (Cable on the other hand does have TPIA).
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