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When I think about it more, it's one of those things that could be "fun" if Doctor Who wasn't so goddamn long. Like, if the revival was only two series it may be a kind of silly way to spend a weekend, but it's not really interesting enough of an idea to do it with 5-8 seasons + specials.
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Jsor posted:When I think about it more, it's one of those things that could be "fun" if Doctor Who wasn't so goddamn long. Like, if the revival was only two series it may be a kind of silly way to spend a weekend, but it's not really interesting enough of an idea to do it with 5-8 seasons + specials. And even then, it would only work for somebody already entirely familiar with the episodes who had seen them in the original order etc. So I guess Oxx is just looking for an excuse to rewatch all that Doctor Who because he's such a huge fan of the show now 
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Jan 8, 2015 03:46
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How would you even watch The Big Bang like that?
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Jan 8, 2015 03:57
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DoctorWhat posted:How would you even watch The Big Bang like that? You'd have to watch all the "modern" day scenes directly after The 11th Hour, and all the stonehenge stuff before the Fires of Pompeii! 
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Jan 8, 2015 03:59
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Oxxidation posted:So Occ, for whatever reason, would like this thread's take on what it would be like to watch the Doctor Who revival chronologically - as in, chronological to the time period of each episode. So Fires of Pompeii et al would be near the beginning, and Utopia would be waaaay at the end. I have the only correct answer What would it be like? Complicated
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Jan 8, 2015 04:01
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Burkion posted:I have the only correct answer I suppose we could drop it into a Crack to close it v  v
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Jan 8, 2015 04:03
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I guess you'd start with Terminus, then that bit of Pandorica Opens where they see the cliff with Hello Sweetie on it? Then Hide (for about 10 seconds), then City of Death...
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Jan 8, 2015 04:15
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The_Doctor posted:I guess you'd start with Terminus, then that bit of Pandorica Opens where they see the cliff with Hello Sweetie on it? Then Hide (for about 10 seconds), then City of Death... You've forgotten The Runaway Bride
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Jan 8, 2015 04:17
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This is a very silly idea.
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Jan 8, 2015 04:21
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Someone posted this timeline thing a while back. It goes from the very start of the show up until season 7 of the revival. You can just select the revival doctors to see their bits. http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20131119-doctor-who-travels-through-time
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Jan 8, 2015 04:23
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Rhyno posted:This is a very silly idea. So what you're saying is...the Master is behind this?!?
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Jan 8, 2015 04:23
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Someone posted this timeline thing a while back. It goes from the very start of the show up until season 7 of the revival. You can just select the revival doctors to see their bits. Jesus loving Christ.
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Jan 8, 2015 04:24
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CobiWann posted:So what you're saying is...the Master is behind this?!? Or possibly John Cleese.
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Jan 8, 2015 04:27
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Some episodes would be absurdly funny like this, like Blink or Time Heist. E: Also, inserting random clips from the tail end of Name of the Doctor all over. Linear Zoetrope fucked around with this message at 04:31 on Jan 8, 2015 |
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Jan 8, 2015 04:29
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GonSmithe posted:Jesus loving Christ. It didn't hit me at first. And then it did.  If there ever was a nerd out there (I know there is somewhere) who could write a script that would play all the relevant parts of the episodes in the proper chronological order, then so help me I would do it. Hopefully they would shuffle the temporal conflicts for max entertainment rather then immense confusion but i'll accept what I could get.
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Jan 8, 2015 04:38
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It would be pretty easy if you could crowdsource minute/second (or, preferably, exact frame) data on the time periods certain things start or end. Writing a script to do that is easy, it's getting the data that's hard. That BBC thing goes part of the way there, but not quite at the resolution needed. E: Now I'm imagining all of the scenes in a row of the Doctor asking the companion where they want to go. Linear Zoetrope fucked around with this message at 05:23 on Jan 8, 2015 |
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Jan 8, 2015 04:41
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I think the very end would actually be Listen, which might work out OK.
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Jan 8, 2015 04:46
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Irony Be My Shield posted:I think the very end would actually be Listen, which might work out OK. Utopia should take place after Listen, since there was still at least one star left in Listen. Edit: And when I say should, I don't mean it at all because the whole thing is really an intensely silly idea that would be utterly nonsensical to watch.
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Jan 8, 2015 04:50
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There were meant to be no other people left alive in Listen though? To be fair if you just go by what Occ's already seen you mostly just get strangely ordered episodes and a few random out of place scenes. It's only when you get into Moffat's tenure that you start getting episodes shattered into incomprehensible fragments.
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Jan 8, 2015 04:58
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Irony Be My Shield posted:There were meant to be no other people left alive in Listen though? Well the Doctor sure as hell wasn't going to pop back to the surviving humans and risk running into the Master and his own fried TARDIS. So maybe he just assumed those hiding aliens were hanging out at the last star and didn't know the humans had found a cold rock hanging in space they could throw up a shield around to survive just a little longer.
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Jan 8, 2015 05:03
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It would only really work with most of the River episodes. And even then, it would still be nonsensical as Hell.
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Jan 8, 2015 05:04
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egon_beeblebrox posted:It would only really work with most of the River episodes. And even then, it would still be nonsensical as Hell. I'm one of those rare unicorns who actually likes River and I have in fact watched all of her episodes in the order of her timeline and it actually holds together pretty well. It's just about the only time you can get something interesting from watching episodes out of broadcast order. Of course, River's timeline order is different to chronological order, that would still be pretty hosed.
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Jan 8, 2015 05:09
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Organza Quiz posted:I'm one of those rare unicorns who actually likes River and I have in fact watched all of her episodes in the order of her timeline and it actually holds together pretty well. It's just about the only time you can get something interesting from watching episodes out of broadcast order. Of course, River's timeline order is different to chronological order, that would still be pretty hosed. River's fine. I may try it one of these days. Chronological for River actually working is surprising to me. It seemed to me that it'd just fall apart after series five.
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Jan 8, 2015 05:13
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egon_beeblebrox posted:It would only really work with most of the River episodes. And even then, it would still be nonsensical as Hell. I guess that's what triggered this absurd question. The thing with Doctor Who fandom is you know that someone has tried this...
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Jan 8, 2015 05:19
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Jsor posted:Also, do I need to have The Wedding of River Song running on loop in the background while watching it this way? Whatever part of the whole process you've reached at the time, immediately switch to The Wedding of River Song at 5:02 PM on Friday.
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Jan 8, 2015 05:29
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Random Stranger posted:I guess that's what triggered this absurd question. No, what triggered it is that Occ tried watching Lost in chronological order and then thought "hm, this is pretty good, though I only like Lost in the first place because I have the insanity of a manatee. This same manatee-insanity prompts me to enlist Oxxidation to ask the Doctor Who megathread if the revival, too, would be better chronologically, despite spending half of its runtime helmed by the biggest Time rear end in a top hat this side of Homestuck's creator." At which point I drop the whole mess on your laps and watch what predictably unfolds.
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Jan 8, 2015 05:41
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egon_beeblebrox posted:River's fine. I may try it one of these days. Chronological for River actually working is surprising to me. It seemed to me that it'd just fall apart after series five. I still had the order I worked out lying around in a txt file so here it is in case you do (or anyone else does): A Good Man Goes to War (The Impossible Astronaut) (Day of the Moon) Let's Kill Hitler Closing Time (last few minutes) The Wedding of River Song Bad Night/First Night/Last Night (First Night/Last Night) (A Good Man Goes to War) The Impossible Astronaut Day of the Moon The Pandorica Opens The Big Bang The Time of the Angels Flesh and Stone (The Wedding of River Song) The Angels Take Manhattan (Last Night) Silence in the Library The Forest of the Dead The Name of the Doctor Ones in brackets are for episodes where she's in it twice (or three times, thanks Last Night) over but I wasn't crazy enough to rewatch entire episodes just for that so I just picked one spot to watch them in. I have no idea why (The Wedding of River Song) is where it is but I'm guessing there's a bit I forgot or something.
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Oxxidation posted:No, what triggered it is that Occ tried watching Lost in chronological order and then thought "hm, this is pretty good, though I only like Lost in the first place because I have the insanity of a manatee. This same manatee-insanity prompts me to enlist Oxxidation to ask the Doctor Who megathread if the revival, too, would be better chronologically, despite spending half of its runtime helmed by the biggest Time rear end in a top hat this side of Homestuck's creator." Can I ask How the hell did he get out of Homestuck if he's such an avid fan of Lost The Jane Dirk Jake stuff was pretty dire but it never got as bad as Wait it was the Gigapause wasn't it- that gave him the time to break free
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Jan 8, 2015 06:02
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In un-chronological related matters, is there ANYBODY who actually liked Kill the Moon? Outside of all the stuff that happens between Clara and the Doctor after the main storyline is resolved?
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Jan 8, 2015 06:20
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Astroman posted:I think that's for weaksauce fans. Go big or go home--watch ALL of both series in chronological order. Time isn't a straight linear path from one end to the other. Multiple timelines mean it's better to consider it as a surface, where you can see all different paths at once. Something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-XqZmLhOCY
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Jerusalem posted:In un-chronological related matters, is there ANYBODY who actually liked Kill the Moon? Outside of all the stuff that happens between Clara and the Doctor after the main storyline is resolved? I enjoyed it but only because I just loved the concept of the moon being an egg with a creature growing inside it, despite it making absolutely no sense and nothing about the episode being actually objectively good. So I have no arguments for trying to convince anyone else it was an enjoyable episode, it was a purely personal reaction. I'm pretty sure it has to do with having watched (the old/proper version) of Doctor Dolittle on repeat as a child. It just appealed to the same sense of wonder as everything in that movie does. ETA: Talking about Doctor Dolittle in the Doctor Who thread means I'm obliged to post this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ8MZzJFZIE Organza Quiz fucked around with this message at 06:34 on Jan 8, 2015 |
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Jan 8, 2015 06:32
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Jerusalem posted:In un-chronological related matters, is there ANYBODY who actually liked Kill the Moon? Outside of all the stuff that happens between Clara and the Doctor after the main storyline is resolved? I didn't mind it. You're right in that it's easily the best part of the episode, and that the rest of the story's pretty easy to hate for pretty good reasons, but I enjoyed it. It wasn't a good episode, and its faults would never be overcome by its strong points, but I liked what it was trying to do. The same cannot be said about Forest of the Night.
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Jan 8, 2015 06:32
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Speaking of River chronologically, if anyone hasn't gone back and rewatched the Library episodes since we got the rest of her story, do it now, it's so much more affecting.
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Jan 8, 2015 06:35
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Jerusalem posted:In un-chronological related matters, is there ANYBODY who actually liked Kill the Moon? Outside of all the stuff that happens between Clara and the Doctor after the main storyline is resolved? Well, Phil Sandifer loved it. And I quite like it, too! The Hinchcliff-esque opening is Not Bad, Courtney's great fun, anyone who actually complains about the science is a Dumb Wrong Idiot Not Worth Listening To, and though whether it "stuck the landing" on navigating the abortion subtext properly, I think the effort it made in doing so was commendable. Most of all, though, the first 40 minutes make the last 5 minutes even better.
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Jan 8, 2015 06:38
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It really is an episode for me where in isolation it's not good, but in the context of everything around it/associated with it, it is quite good. Forest of the Night, by comparison, is bad by itself and as part of the greater whole.
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Jan 8, 2015 06:52
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I'd agree with you about the science if an attempt had not been made to explain anything, because "it's an egg!" was clearly supposed to make it all perfectly clear and instead raised more questions than it answered.
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Dabir posted:I'd agree with you about the science if an attempt had not been made to explain anything, because "it's an egg!" was clearly supposed to make it all perfectly clear and instead raised more questions than it answered. uuuugh uuuuuuugh "Why is the moon growing" "Because the moon's an egg and it's gestating". There. That's pretty goddamn clear. Any further "questions" raised are... they're meaningless. They're fan-wank. They're an attempt to take an outrageous, but thoroughly intended, counter-factual premise, and rationalize it. Make thematic logic subservient to the real-world laws of physics. It's a line of thinking that's totally without merit.
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Jan 8, 2015 07:08
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Re: Watching the Revivial in Chronological Order: No. Don't do this. It's a bad idea because, unlike Lost, Doctor Who is a real time travel show, so watching it in strict chronological order is meaningless.
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Jan 8, 2015 07:23
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Jerusalem posted:In un-chronological related matters, is there ANYBODY who actually liked Kill the Moon? Outside of all the stuff that happens between Clara and the Doctor after the main storyline is resolved? I remember really liking it, actually. I thought it gave Capaldi some great defining Twelfth Doctor moments that I felt nailed what his character is like, and I can't recall anything that really bothered me other than the "whoops it laid another egg when you weren't looking" bit near the end. I haven't seen it since it aired, though, so my opinion might change on rewatch, but my first impressions on it were positive, regardless.
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jng2058 posted:Re: Watching the Revivial in Chronological Order: Lost has a pretty significant amount of time travel in it. It's still a really, really dumb idea, for both shows.
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