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Strom Cuzewon posted:Oh they're certainly believable, but a right pain in the arse. Don't forget about the river flowing by Mereen that almost sounds like Skahaz mo Kandaq owns it. Also, there was at least one instance in my edition of ADWD where 'Skahaz' was spelled 'Shakaz' so not even the editor could get that poo poo straight.
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webmeister posted:Reznak Moe Szyslak A name I have used for an MMO character.
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PittTheElder posted:A name I have used for an MMO character. Lord Palmerston.
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Punch Card posted:Lord Palmerston. Pitt the Elder.
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webmeister posted:Reznak Moe Szyslak I was gonna respond with something like Larrah Moeh Kurrley and then remembered that Blizzard already did that poo poo in Diablo 3.
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rydiafan posted:I was gonna respond with something like Larrah Moeh Kurrley and then remembered that Blizzard already did that poo poo in Diablo 3. Too late, Catelyn is assisted by three men of arms named Lharys, Moher, and Kurleket when she arrests Tyrion. http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Lharys http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Mohor http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Kurleket
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Kurleket was slain and replaced by Shempatis.
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Lycus posted:Kurleket was slain and replaced by Shempatis. No one cared about Kurleket Jojen.
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I do. I always start my day with Bran flakes and a cuppa Jojen.
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webmeister posted:Reznak Moe Szyslak Mhoney Mo' Mhoney.
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Grendels Dad posted:Mhoney Mo' Mhoney. Mo' Mhoney Mo' Phroblems.
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computer parts posted:You should look up some Wade Giles versions of Chinese names, it's very much in the same vein as the latter in terms of readability and similarity (although even in pinyin the spelling is the same and just the tones are different). I had a quick look at this, and then got sidetracked looking at Asian naming conventions and how different countries take different approaches when Anglacising (Americanising really) their names. fascinating stuff. Do you know any good books on naming/transliteration? I feel I should educate myself, if only to better complain about Malazan.
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DeepQantas posted:I do. I always start my day with Bran flakes and a cuppa Jojen. And then you fix your hair in the Meera before you go out the Hodor.
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Strom Cuzewon posted:I had a quick look at this, and then got sidetracked looking at Asian naming conventions and how different countries take different approaches when Anglacising (Americanising really) their names. fascinating stuff. Sorry, I'm more aimed at history than linguistics specifically, I don't know any. There's a subform of Ask/Tell called Science, Academics, and Languages and they should point you in the right direction though.
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computer parts posted:Sorry, I'm more aimed at history than linguistics specifically, I don't know any. There's a really cool podcast called History of English that may be of interest. Not quite the same thing, but it has a lot of good information about language development.
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The North Tower posted:There's a really cool podcast called History of English that may be of interest. Not quite the same thing, but it has a lot of good information about language development. The Kevin Stroud one? High five buddy. That podcast is good stuff if you like etymologies and detailed histroy of the Anglo-Saxons.
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Omnomnomnivore posted:The Kevin Stroud one? High five buddy. That podcast is good stuff if you like etymologies and detailed histroy of the Anglo-Saxons. That's the one--it really helps to have a background in the basics of geopolitics of the "middle" ages, as it is less history-focused. It's great to see some words get carried over from Indo-European to modern English, and see the comparable word in Hindi be so similar. This is basically how the study of this type of thing started--by looking at modern languages and finding similarities. My completely under-educated hypothesis: 'Ma' is a very easy word for a baby to say (if they even mean to say a word), and because we're a narcissistic human race, we think that the baby is talking to it's mom instead of babbling nonsense or just generally asking for attention. Here's the link if anyone is interested: http://historyofenglishpodcast.com
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Yeah, that's totally a legit linguistic theory that they teach you about in Ling101 (the only linguistics class I ever took). Also, Rh'llor exonerated The Hound of the butcher boy's death when the literal flaming sword of justice snapped during the trial by combat. Not Guilty. Complain to the GRRM.
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TOOT BOOT posted:Current speculation on WOTW is that Jon actually goes to Hardhome to rescue the wildlings this season. Is that based on anything? Much as I'd love to see the horrors of Hardhome.
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Maarak posted:Is that based on anything? Much as I'd love to see the horrors of Hardhome. It's not based on much. Harington says that there's a scene that took a month to film, so Watchers speculated that it's a high-action scene at Hardhome.
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Speleothing posted:Yeah, that's totally a legit linguistic theory that they teach you about in Ling101 (the only linguistics class I ever took). Really? 
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Lycus posted:It's not based on much. Harington says that there's a scene that took a month to film, so Watchers speculated that it's a high-action scene at Hardhome. He says “There’s one scene for me which took a month to film. And it wasn’t even the whole thing, it was one section.” It could easily be Jon's last chapter. We don't see all the fighting between the Watch and the wildlings but any "section" involving giants is going to be complicated to film. And they wouldn't have to end the episode at the same point where Jon's chapter ends. Rosscifer fucked around with this message at 08:52 on Jan 8, 2015 |
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The North Tower posted:Really? Anecdotal evidence: My son is only slowly coming around to calling me "Pa" instead of "Ma". I have a big gently caress-off beard, son. I'm not your bloody ma!
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Maarak posted:Is that based on anything? Much as I'd love to see the horrors of Hardhome. He said they spent a lot of money this season (which probably means CGI and battles) and that one of his scenes took like a month to film. Then there was a leaker on Reddit who said his friend was cast as an Other for a Hardhome scene in S5.
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Grendels Dad posted:Anecdotal evidence: My son is only slowly coming around to calling me "Pa" instead of "Ma". I have a big gently caress-off beard, son. I'm not your bloody ma! Goon's second word! 
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The North Tower posted:Really? I'm too lazy to look up any details right now, but basically: In newborns, the larynx is further up in the throat, which restricts the movement of the tongue. The vast majority of consonants are formed by restricting airflow with your tongue in some way. Try forming some consonants while not moving your tongue from a neutral position and things should become pretty clear.
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Rushputin posted:I'm too lazy to look up any details right now, but basically: In newborns, the larynx is further up in the throat, which restricts the movement of the tongue. The vast majority of consonants are formed by restricting airflow with your tongue in some way. Try forming some consonants while not moving your tongue from a neutral position and things should become pretty clear. My under-evaluated hypothesis has become a theory! Good work!
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Grendels Dad posted:I have a big gently caress-off beard, son. So did your wife, the first time he saw her.
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You can improve a baby's language development by repeating back all those nonsense syllables they produce early on. This strengthens the hearing and speaking connectors in the brain. This is also why it tends to be easier for a young child to learn a language fluently, they actually hear parts of the language that adults generally filter out. So all that baby talk from parents that usually annoy others is actually helping. And of course, as said before, parents are going to hone in on any syllable that sounds like a word and reinforce that with repetition. Basically both are being classically conditioned in the early stages of language development.
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I've also read that some variant on "Ma" is a common synonym for "mother" in a surprising number of languages that are otherwise completely unrelated linguistically, which can't possibly be a coincidence. People everywhere assume their babies are talking about them.
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loquacius posted:I've also read that some variant on "Ma" is a common synonym for "mother" in a surprising number of languages that are otherwise completely unrelated linguistically, which can't possibly be a coincidence. People everywhere assume their babies are talking about them. Yeah, it's one of the easier syllables to say so it's a common word for parents. In some cultures it's reversed though - IIRC in Finnish "pa" is for your mom and "ma" is for your dad.
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computer parts posted:Yeah, it's one of the easier syllables to say so it's a common word for parents. Yeah but Finnish has like 15 grammatical cases so they're clearly such linguistic geniuses I'm surprised their kids aren't born already able to read and write.
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Professor Shark posted:Now explain nuncle http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Category:English_nouns_which_have_interacted_with_their_indefinite_article
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TOOT BOOT posted:Season 5 starts on April 12th. 94 days to go 
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If you're after a series with good naming, there's always the Bas Lag books by china mieville. Different enough to be foreign, but without 3 billion x's and z's.
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