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Politicalrancor posted:It certainly was interesting that the piece tries to paint ESPN as a journalistically and ethically consistent enterprise, especially for a deadspin writer. Marc Stein and John Hollinger are/were fine reporters, so I'm not sure what you were looking for
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Politicalrancor posted:It certainly was interesting that the piece tries to paint ESPN as a journalistically and ethically consistent enterprise, especially for a deadspin writer. It was written by Kevin Draper, who writes for Deadspin. Same guy who wrote that story on old tweets by NBA players.
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LARGE THE HEAD posted:I'm grateful for what Dumars did because, hey, I like information, but it is quite surprising that even after that the Pistons did not move to fire him. When did Davidson die? It could be that the estate didn't want to make any leadership changes while they were trying to sell the team so they kicked the can down to the next owner. Alternately Dumars could do no wrong in Bill Davidson's eyes.
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LARGE THE HEAD posted:I'm grateful for what Dumars did because, hey, I like information, but it is quite surprising that even after that the Pistons did not move to fire him. Depending on what he was releasing the Pistons may not have cared. That seems like something that's a bigger concern for the NBA that the Piston's specifically.
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morestuff posted:Marc Stein and John Hollinger are/were fine reporters, so I'm not sure what you were looking for They're not as extreme as Woj, but Stein and Amick both fawn over the Mavs and Rockets respectively, I assume for the same reasons.
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Stein worked in Dallas forever. Some of it is probably them feeding him info, but I think he also legitimately got close with guys like Dirk and that clouds things.
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It's the same with Adande in LA, that old rear end baseball writer in Boston and Adam Schefter where ever Shanahan is. Guys are at their best in their familiar enviroment.
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LARGE THE HEAD posted:I'm grateful for what Dumars did because, hey, I like information, but it is quite surprising that even after that the Pistons did not move to fire him.
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Almost everyone is a beat writer before they get to those positions so it's only natural that they would have stronger connections with the team they worked the beat on.
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howe_sam posted:When did Davidson die? It could be that the estate didn't want to make any leadership changes while they were trying to sell the team so they kicked the can down to the next owner. Alternately Dumars could do no wrong in Bill Davidson's eyes. Davidson died in March of 2009, and Dumars is/was a legend in Detroit. If Davidson's gold-digging widow fired Joe, the shitstorm would've been bigger than it was.
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End-of-year Best Of lists are coming out. Enjoy this. And this. And this. And this. And this. I'm also a big fan of this.
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This is technically old, but I feel it's worth sharing. Deadspin did a Worst American Sports Journalism of 2014 article the other day. Jeff Pearlman was one of the dishonorees, for a column where he refused to condemn Ray Rice since Jeff had done some lovely stuff as a college student.quote:Ray Rice deserves to be tattooed and branded and damned. He does. But if this job has taught me one thing, it's that no one is black or white. Not Rocker (who has done great work with veterans). Not Vick (an amazing rebound). Not Strawberry. Not Jeff Pearlman—who drove drunk in college; who had unprotected sex in college; who cheated on a test as a freshman. We all do bad things. On occasion, v-e-r-y bad things. For those keeping score: Things Jeff Pearlman will not call your mom about : -drunk driving -not wearing a condom -cheating on tests -beating your girlfriend Things Jeff Pearlman will call your mom about : -dissing him in a comments section
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Umm, Unprotected sex is dumb, but it isn't a bad thing. Unless there is more to this story which would make it turn pretty hard.
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I'm not saying it is, but ol' Jeff here is the one equating it with drunk driving and domestic abuse.
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CharlestheHammer posted:Umm, Unprotected sex is dumb, but it isn't a bad thing. People come down on athletes pretty hard for having kids out of wedlock with multiple women. No one gets suspended for it, but it certainly gets traction.
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hcreight posted:I'm not saying it is, but ol' Jeff here is the one equating it with drunk driving and domestic abuse. Oh I didn't mean to imply you did.
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Peter Vescey blocked me for calling him out on the geographical error.
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Spoeank posted:Peter Vescey blocked me for calling him out on the geographical error. You aren't alone! Ryan Yamamoto, KXTV posted:As of Friday night, Vecsey had neither responded to Kings fans nor apologized to Ranadive and the Kings organization. Instead, Vecsey spent time "blocking" anyone, including the members of the media, who made a comment about his tweet. Carmichael Dave @CarmichaelDave posted:The Vecsey Block Party of 2015 going on in Sacramento is the best thing so far this year.
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Can somebody translate this to English?
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davecrazy posted:Can somebody translate this to English?
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Is Vecsey actually Nick Young?
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Does Vecsey actually write for anyone these days or just report on stuff for Twitter followers?
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The next editor Jeff Pearlman meets will be the first. For all the talent he has, dude cannot make his point in a direct fashion. His books are really good, though.
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Not the best phrasing by Mike Florio here.quote:Before New Jersey governor Chris Christie made the trek to Willie Wonka’s football factory looking like Augustus Gloop in an Oompa Loompa sweater, Christie apparently had ripped open a candy bar that included a golden gloryhole ticket. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...20NBC&utm_tags=
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Disagree, best phrasing.
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Lockback posted:Disagree, best phrasing. yeah that's goddamn perfect
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AsInHowe posted:Not the best phrasing by Mike Florio here.
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That's the best thing Mike Florio will ever write.
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It's not Sports Journalism, but gently caress it I'm posting this anyway because you all need to read it and it's Journalism-related. The irresistible hook: A 60 Minutes reporter who drank champagne out of his mistress' rear end
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Really thought that was going to be Scott Pelley
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SYNNNNNNNNNNNNNERGGYYYYYYYYYYYYYquote:Professional athletes seem like the real-life equivalent of superheroes, don’t they? They accomplish feats of strength, agility and skill far beyond the capabilities of mortal beings. Evidently, ESPN Films and Marvel Entertainment see that similarity as well.
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Ugh. Have to imagine the Dwight Howard section will be extra-unwatchable.
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Crazy Ted posted:It's not Sports Journalism, but gently caress it I'm posting this anyway because you all need to read it and it's Journalism-related. The irresistible hook: A 60 Minutes reporter who drank champagne out of his mistress' rear end Really thought that'd be Andy Rooney.
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Given how much everyone hated the NBA/movie mashup commercials from a few years ago I can't imagine this will go over well.
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chunkles posted:Given how much everyone hated the NBA/movie mashup commercials from a few years ago I can't imagine this will go over well. They're still ongoing, and I still hate them 
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I have no earthly clue why the NBA ever went away from "The NBA: It's FANtastic!" It was simple and effective and really cool. Seriously when people talk about things and say "God only knows", this is one of those things.
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I feel like this is a good point to mention that it could have been so much goddamn worse
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So I wasn't just in a delusional haze when I saw Liam doing his Taken schtick wearing a Knicks cap?DJExile posted:I feel like this is a good point to mention that it could have been so much goddamn worse Somehow better then Superpro, but so much worse then Monsters of the Gridiron.   
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