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Ceciltron posted:If Quebec weren't full of French people you'd be astounded to find it entirely identical to Ontario in every way. Except colder and with worse roads 2 + 2 = 5 posted:Maybe French people aren't nice to you because you seem to have racist jerk attitudes towards them? Something Awful Forums: where people forget that this is a comedy site where people make jokes Lexicon posted:Totally. I'd be willing to bet an enormous percentage of non-Quebecer Canadians have never even been to Quebec - thanks in part to the insane cost of east-west travel compared to North-south. I'll let you in on a secret, when I'm not making bad jokes on the internet I'm bilingual and make fun of dummies that didn't bother to learn how to speak to a third of the country. I actually really like much of Quebec, and I'm frankly surprised that I got so many biters on my terrible low effort troll Monaghan posted:There's a lot of places in Canada that are worse for cold- see Manitoba, or my province, Saskatchewan (-40 today gently caress this place, why are housing prices so high in this frozen loving tundra). Having worse places exist doesn't invalidate my comment. The cold and the lovely roads are probably the only parts of the province that I really don't generally enjoy. Montreal's Jazz Festival and the Quebec winter carnival are things everyone should experience. E: and the high taxes are quid pro quo for significantly better social services so that's a wash to me 
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Kalenn Istarion posted:I'll let you in on a secret, when I'm not making bad jokes on the internet I'm bilingual and make fun of dummies that didn't bother to learn how to speak to a third of the country. I really wish I had learned French, unfortunately growing up in a small community in Alberta with no French program and having no real chance to take it in University due to my program means I have almost zero proficiency. Welp.
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Kalenn Istarion posted:I'll let you in on a secret, when I'm not making bad jokes on the internet I'm bilingual and make fun of dummies that didn't bother to learn how to speak to a third of the country. I'll let you in on a secret: I was actually in no way referring to your comment. I had in mind the vast throngs of Langley, etc suburbanites who tend to espouse such views.
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Yeah, it's literally impossible to learn french in the west. If anyone from the west claims to have learned french via our school system here they are a liar and you will find they have a french speaking parent, or lived in Quebec or Ontario for years, or go to France every summer.
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Baronjutter posted:Or envy, there's this whole rad province that they can't succeed in because they're a linguistic outsider. Haha no, this Vancouver weather right now  Montreal  Montreal seems great, and I'd live there if I had to experience real Canadian winter, but gently caress that
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^ I've lived in both cities for a period of longer than a full year, and without exaggeration I prefer Montreal's weather in totality. Sure, it gets cold, but it's generally always sunny and doesn't loving piss rain 10 months of the year.
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Kalenn Istarion posted:I actually really like much of Quebec, and I'm frankly surprised that I got so many biters on my terrible low effort troll Really? Have you read the other CanPol thread at all? Ceciltron posted:I went to a private high school in the West Island and I literally have a set of nasty prejudices and chip on my shoulder that resulted from it. It takes active work not to hate pretty much every single upper-middle class uni-lingual anglophone as the bigoted, racist and privileged dickhole they are. One of my good friends from Montreal that I met outside of school has the same experience. She's very cool, and a very nice person, but old friends from high school, who she went to undergrad with don't contact her and pretend to forget her name when she runs into them on the street. It's really weird to me, but then again I'm from Sarnia. Dreylad fucked around with this message at 21:15 on Jan 7, 2015 |
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Baronjutter posted:Yeah, it's literally impossible to learn french in the west. If anyone from the west claims to have learned french via our school system here they are a liar and you will find they have a french speaking parent, or lived in Quebec or Ontario for years, or go to France every summer. It's substantially better in the major cities apparently but for me I could either learn it via distance education (which is pretty much a waste of time) or not at all. No one in my home town spoke any French, and there's honestly no need to. University was sadly my own doing, but in my defence I started out in Engineering, where even taking English is a bit of a stretch.
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Lexicon posted:^ I've lived in both cities for a period of longer than a full year, and without exaggeration I prefer Montreal's weather in totality. Sure, it gets cold, but it's generally always sunny and doesn't loving piss rain 10 months of the year. Global warming means we're not getting pissed rain on all the time anymore, it's been pretty dry for a few years.
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I admit I'm not a big fan of Montreal's muggy summer weather, mainly July-August. There was a couple summers there where it wasn't too bad, but I remember waking up one morning at 5 AM and it was already 30 degrees.
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Lexicon posted:^ I've lived in both cities for a period of longer than a full year, and without exaggeration I prefer Montreal's weather in totality. Sure, it gets cold, but it's generally always sunny and doesn't loving piss rain 10 months of the year. I know people like you exist but only because Canada has like 35 million people. If people we were reasonable about their climate expectations we'd be completely depopulated.
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Apparently uni-lingual has been redefined as "does not speak French" instead of "only speaks one language." I am indeed bilingual, but French is not one of the two languages I know (at least, not well enough to speak it or understand it very well).
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Reverse Centaur posted:I know people like you exist but only because Canada has like 35 million people. If people we were reasonable about their climate expectations we'd be completely depopulated. To counter this argument I hate summer weather with a passion and generally prefer winter weather. In Alberta. When I was growing up we took a summer vacation down to Florida, I hated the hot, sunny weather.
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Oh yeah summers are terrible in most of Canada too.
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Dreylad posted:Really? Have you read the other CanPol thread at all? You haven't seen my posting have you. My knowledge of politics runs from ignorant to active avoidance. I pay enough attention to reconfirm my decision to vote liberal every year on social issues and otherwise try my best to ignore it. Also re: weather / Vancouver, I don't mind the rain since the summers are amazing and come with the choice, but not the requirement, to go play in several metres of snow in the winter.
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PT6A posted:Apparently uni-lingual has been redefined as "does not speak French" instead of "only speaks one language." The discussion was mostly focused on French. I can speak a smattering of Dutch and Spanish, as well as really basic Cantonese, but I didn't think it relevant to the discussion.
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Well I really liked Montreal and some of the hottest, most exciting women I've ever dated were Montreal francophones.
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Climate wise I don't think I could survive anywhere outside of Victoria. Vancouver is too rainy for me, anywhere with super hot summers or super cold winters are a no-go too. It's good for the world though as it keeps me trapped at the tip of this little micro-climate. Hell the climate in Langford is too much of a change for me (gets hotter in the summer, specially with the whole thing being a parking lot). There's a lot of Europe I can handle, and probably places in the US, but I can't think of anywhere else in Canada.
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Baronjutter posted:Yeah, it's literally impossible to learn french in the west. If anyone from the west claims to have learned french via our school system here they are a liar and you will find they have a french speaking parent, or lived in Quebec or Ontario for years, or go to France every summer. I assume you mean Alberta as the lower mainland in BC has a pretty strong french inmersion program which draws a lot from Maillardville which has a pretty sizable french community. A lot of people including myself in Coquitlam and surrounding areas went through the program as a result. It's been useful for me for personal and business trips to Quebec and France. cowofwar fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Jan 7, 2015 |
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cowofwar posted:I assume you mean Alberta as the lower mainland in BC has a pretty strong french inmersion program which draws a lot from Mallardville which has a pretty sizable french community. There are a few Albertan communities which have strong french backgrounds, such as St. Paul and Beaumont. The rest of Alberta, not so much.
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cowofwar posted:I assume you mean Alberta as the lower mainland in BC has a pretty strong french inmersion program which draws a lot from Maillardville which has a pretty sizable french community. A lot of people including myself in Coquitlam and surrounding areas went through the program as a result. It's been useful for me for personal and business trips to Quebec and France. That's really cool, I didn't know Coquitlam has a french community. Not a single person I know who went to french immersion in Victoria can do more than say their name and remember random vocab after a decade or two of being exposed to absolutely no french in their lives  That's the ones who stayed in Victoria. The ones who ended up going to school out east retained and improved their french since they'd actually encounter living breathing francophones over there.
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Baronjutter posted:That's really cool, I didn't know Coquitlam has a french community. Not a single person I know who went to french immersion in Victoria can do more than say their name and remember random vocab after a decade or two of being exposed to absolutely no french in their lives
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Dreylad posted:I admit I'm not a big fan of Montreal's muggy summer weather, mainly July-August. On the bright side hotter summers means more eye catching summer fashion.
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etalian posted:On the bright side hotter summers means more eye catching summer fashion. What, you don't like people bundled up so much they look like marshmallows?
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etalian posted:On the bright side hotter summers means more eye catching summer fashion. All the teenagers in Ottawa already dress like Misty as soon as temperatures hit 10 in March, what the gently caress else could they not wear?
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This country would have become the Former Yugoslav Republic of Canada years ago if it wasn't too cold to go outside most of the time.
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triplexpac posted:What, you don't like people bundled up so much they look like marshmallows? I find women in snow pants bewitching No troll 
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China Wants Taxes Paid by Citizens Living AbroadThe New York Times posted:Chinese officials chose the American definition of income, with its worldwide scope, in issuing their tax code in 1993. It remains in force today, although with many amendments. Not that hugely rich Chinese investors have ever been enough of an influence to move the Toronto/Vancouver markets, but this will further put the lie to the common argument that they are and/or can be expected to continue doing so.
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Haha gently caress mainlanders
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What is with the fuzzy things on the rims of winter coats?
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MickeyFinn posted:What is with the fuzzy things on the rims of winter coats? It's some kind of fashion thing. It's been popular around here for years.
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It started out as appealing to people who wanted to look hardcore by owning a parka, but were too cheap to buy an actual parka (or found them uncomfortably hot where they lived). A fashion statement with limited utility. It's become more mainstream because faux-fur is massively popular on garments designed and produced in Asia. Like, I have seen leather jackets with a faux-fur rim. I don't get it. 
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Jan 8, 2015 18:43
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It keeps your hair from icing up when its blustery out.
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And a lot of it now is real fur... so you have "progressive" yuppies who need to show they have the finest brand of outdoor gear wearing a bunch of real fur.
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Baronjutter posted:And a lot of it now is real fur... so you have "progressive" yuppies who need to show they have the finest brand of outdoor gear wearing a bunch of real fur. Thats what fur is for. Wearing.
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Baronjutter posted:And a lot of it now is real fur... so you have "progressive" yuppies who need to show they have the finest brand of outdoor gear wearing a bunch of real fur. It's sort of funny to think about how this used to be an an actual issue which was broadly cared about on the left. I'm sure some people still do, but has it ever dropped off the zeitgeist.
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MickeyFinn posted:What is with the fuzzy things on the rims of winter coats? It provides a snow/windbreak and insulation without jamming an uncomfortably tight hood rim into your cheeks and face. It's incredibly handy when you're out working in -30ish weather - you can get away without having to wear a face wrap until it gets to -40 or so. I use mine when working in the Nunavik winter.
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Decoy Badger posted:It provides a snow/windbreak and insulation without jamming an uncomfortably tight hood rim into your cheeks and face. It's incredibly handy when you're out working in -30ish weather - you can get away without having to wear a face wrap until it gets to -40 or so. I use mine when working in the Nunavik winter. Cool! I've seen them in movies and pictures, but never in person close enough, so I had no idea they were actually useful rather than just fashionable.
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MickeyFinn posted:Cool! I've seen them in movies and pictures, but never in person close enough, so I had no idea they were actually useful rather than just fashionable. Its actually surprising how much of a difference they make. Its like they work some weird fluffy magic.
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Make sure you get real fur and not synthetic though. Real fur doesn't really ice up from your breath, synthetic fur means you're wearing a giant ice rim in your hood after a half hour. Also seconding that it's a godsend when it's below minus 30.
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