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MJP posted:But Mr Bert 90rat, this is a position with driver WINDOWS development in PE OR IA, Wisc. Do you not think yo umight be a little interest in job in PE OR IA, Wisc.? What is LIE NIX? Oh you only have 4 years of experience? That is far to little! (My resume says 4 years of experience.)
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I had a recruiter call me and talk up this pre-sales engineer-ish position, schedule a phone screen with the guys and tell me he'll call back an hour before the call to just go over stuff and make sure I'm feeling good. That seemed cool! Then 40 minutes before the call is supposed to happen the CEO of the recruitment firm calls me and proceeds to say "Hmm, your resume is missing a lot of the stuff they're looking for for this position, so get some canned responses ready for the call." They ended up doing an in-person with me, but this place also had me fill out a 4 page application thing that included asking for my high school GPA (I have a degree from Tufts) and how I paid for college. I called the recruiter back and yelled at him about the sheer amount of bullshit this was, filled half of it out (part of that was non-answers) and did the interview anyway because I'm stupid, and the company said I didn't have the technical skills they were looking for. Which is weird because they didn't ask me any loving technical questions in the phone screen or interview. Every recruiter I seem to find/that finds me seem to just put my resume on their stationary and that's about it.
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Jan 8, 2015 21:17
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Inspector_666 posted:I had a recruiter call me and talk up this pre-sales engineer-ish position, schedule a phone screen with the guys and tell me he'll call back an hour before the call to just go over stuff and make sure I'm feeling good. That seemed cool! I had a recruiter once ask me for my cumulative college GPA, major GPA, high school GPA, and SAT scores. "Our client is only looking for top candidates," they answered without a drop of irony in their voice.
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Jan 8, 2015 21:34
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MJP posted:I had a recruiter once ask me for my cumulative college GPA, major GPA, high school GPA, and SAT scores. Pay is 40k to start but they have great benefits!
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Jan 8, 2015 21:35
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MJP posted:This. I've had upwards of 50-60 emails and calls from Indian recruiters seeing if I was interested for a job in Trenton. If I don't pick up they just keep calling back. Glassdoor turned the last place I worked into crazy town for a bit. We had a few years with bad middle management (although mine was great) where there was literally 30-40% annual turnover in a professional software company and our glassdoor reviews reflected that. We ended up with a C-level executive (it was pretty obvious who it was from the posts) engaging and personally attacking the reviewers on glassdoor, and our CEO eventually had to end up getting involved and calling in some favors with some executives at Glassdoor to get things cleaned up.
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Jan 8, 2015 21:44
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Maneki Neko posted:Glassdoor turned the last place I worked into crazy town for a bit. We had a few years with bad middle management (although mine was great) where there was literally 30-40% annual turnover in a professional software company and our glassdoor reviews reflected that. I love how it's Glassdoor they tried to clean up and not their lovely practices. ratbert90 posted:Pay is 40k to start but they have great benefits! For white-glove desktop support, nonetheless!* *you will have lawyers literally throw their Blackberries at you telling you it's broken before they storm out to grab a laptop to throw, before realizing it's stuck in the dock, so they call you to yell at you to come and undock it and then just throw it at yourself
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Jan 8, 2015 21:46
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MJP posted:I love how it's Glassdoor they tried to clean up and not their lovely practices. Well, that happened too, but I think there was a concern over "holy poo poo, we are going to get loving wrecked in court"
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Jan 8, 2015 21:47
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See it's funny because the last place I worked at the president made an account on Glassdoor to call out all the bad posts as "Bad workers who were bad apples and were fired so that's why they are disgruntled". Which to me is hilarious because one of those reviews was mine and I sure as hell wasn't fired. That place was a poo poo show. Pretty sure he managed to smuggle some drug lords/terrorists into the country accidentally. Hired a programmer from some foreign country, get him a visa. We go to pick them up from the airport and they are no where to be found.
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Jan 8, 2015 21:48
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Aww fudge, Abhi from IDC Technologies - THE IDC Technologies - has a position that's actually kinda right up my alley and what I'm looking for. :-( Might as well see how deep this rabbit hole goes, I'd sure love to go down in goon history as the P-p-p-powerbook! equivalent of SH/SC.
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Jan 8, 2015 22:02
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MJP posted:THE IDC Technologies
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Jan 8, 2015 22:03
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Japanese Dating Sim posted:Care to illuminate me? Surely you've heard of IDC Technologies! Because I sure haven't nor do I think I ever will, given the call-center background noise and address in San Jose. it's sarcasm but I blame the plaintext medium's failure to convey tone very well
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Jan 8, 2015 22:06
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:holy poo poo is right. Day 3 on the job here I don't think HR even knew I was an employee yet. It took 9 months for my firm to get around to giving me access to the project code interface so I can code my time properly. There was a big project that happened during that period where this would have mattered and I wasn't just doing the usual stuff the whole time. If I want to change my W4 allowances, I have to fax it in because the web portal widget for this is broken and hasn't been fixed in 2 years.  I'm dreading moving banks and changing my direct deposit as I'm sure that will be retarded too. This is a major company that all of you have heard of.
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Jan 8, 2015 22:08
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MJP posted:Aww fudge, Abhi from IDC Technologies - THE IDC Technologies - has a position that's actually kinda right up my alley and what I'm looking for. :-( Let us know if they ask for your DoB and SSN on the first phone conversation. Apparently that's something they do (did?) according to Glass Door review on doing Interviews with them.
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Jan 8, 2015 22:08
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MJP posted:Surely you've heard of IDC Technologies! Oh, I'm sorry - I'm just so used to all of those companies having whitenoise names that I thought there might be some special goon history with IDC. Oops. :x
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Jan 8, 2015 22:09
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MJP's going to work as an offshore in India. Clearly a  ? I have never heard of them that I recall either, so do tell. Hopefully I'll have my own if I can get a network admin job in my town, which would mean I could legitimately walk to work. That's supposed to be a great thing, right?
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Jan 8, 2015 22:11
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notwithoutmyanus posted:MJP's going to work as an offshore in India. Clearly a Right up until they call you on your day off with "Well, you're just around the corner..."
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Jan 8, 2015 22:12
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Oh, they're outsourced recruiters. The client's in NYC. I'm gonna go full #yolo on this and abandon all pleasantries in communication with them. I just asked for the name of the client and the location... I think that you guys were onto something, they're recruiting for Tata Consultancy Services. Hot drat, I'd be the guy that the outsources outsource to! Let's continue being brusque in our replies~ me in response to 'please let me know your salary expectation' posted:I'd like to refrain from giving out a salary expectation as it might color the discussion unfavorably for either me or TCS. If things are a good fit once I'm submitted and can talk to the hiring manager and/or hiring team at the client, then we can see what range they're offering and can work from there. Your move, Indian recruiter  Edit: in b4 "but who outsources the outsourcers?" Rorshachshek posted:They will look at me and shout "submit us!" and I will answer "please let me know your salary expectation" Edit 2: the Search for Longer Posts They're actually offering a decent salary and benefits as a full-time direct placement O_O Why not! Let's move forward. me again posted:Once I know the physical location, I can sound off on the salary, but so far it's within specifications. The location part is a big thing - some parts of Manhattan are a strenuous commute, others are better. Once you know where it'll be, kindly revert the info and I'll advise if we can move forward. feels good man MJP fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Jan 8, 2015 |
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Jan 8, 2015 22:20
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"What is your salary. Please do the needful and respond"
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Jan 8, 2015 22:22
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I've worked with TCS employees many times, but never the company itself. Dollars to donuts you'd be a permanent employee to TCS but farmed out to some other company for a long-term engagement, quite possibly equal in length to the time you'd be with TCS.
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They have two offices in NYC, one in Lower Manhattan and one a block from Grand Central. The former is 1 World Financial Center, which I think has a slight issue location-wise, being that it got cratered a few years back. The other... bleh. Not so great for Jersey, but doable, especially at that salary range, but I A) don't do as well in huge giant companies as I do in smaller ones, and B) would mean if I take this, I contribute to the continuation of lovely Indian outsourced recruiting. We shall see. Ironically enough their Jersey office is a very easy and nice commute that I'd love to be involved with. Wow, it's 3 AM in Calcutta - he's up late, or I guess they all are. No response yet to confirm physical location, or maybe he sensed the sarcasm dripping from my response like so much syrup from so much gulab jamun. Ironically, I love Indian food - got raised on it - and I always got on well with Indian co-workers everywhere. Edit: ^ Yeah, Tata did the network engineering for a major client at my MSP job. From what little I know about them, the Tata conglomerate has a company or companies involved in making, consulting, un-making, and thinking about making any conceivable good or service. Who knows, maybe this will work out.
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Jan 8, 2015 22:29
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MJP posted:me again posted: Looks like you're speaking their language, at least.
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Jan 8, 2015 22:34
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flosofl posted:Looks like you're speaking their language, at least. That's the plan. I hope I get occasion for him to undertake a task soon so I can unironically have him do the needful.
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Jan 8, 2015 22:36
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MJP posted:so I can unironically have him do the needful.
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Jan 8, 2015 22:50
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MJP posted:I had a recruiter once ask me for my cumulative college GPA, major GPA, high school GPA, and SAT scores. This application had a spot for SAT score too, I think. Are you in NYC?
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Jan 8, 2015 23:07
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MJP posted:They have two offices in NYC, one in Lower Manhattan and one a block from Grand Central. The former is 1 World Financial Center, which I think has a slight issue location-wise, being that it got cratered a few years back. 1 WFC is across the West Side Highway from 1 WTC. There's like a dozen ferries from NJ that run pretty much right to it.
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Manslaughter posted:That's t-shirt weather here, let me know when your wind chill is -40ºF! That should happen here later tonight (west side of the state).
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Jan 8, 2015 23:58
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Even most of the positive Glassdoor reviews of one of my previous companies complain about the very low pay and lack of raises (when I left them for another job, my salary wasn't even on the bell curve for my position on most salary review sites). Now I see their latest review says "It was an interesting place to work, I just wish it wasn't an unpaid internship, and it would have been nice to be reimbursed for travel expenses...", so apparently they've found a new way to lower their labor costs even more.  I do wonder if "travel expenses" meant "help cover the cost of getting to work" or if it was a "Go to southeast Asia for a month on your own dime to train our outsourced phone support" request like they tried to pull on me once...
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dennyk posted:Even most of the positive Glassdoor reviews of one of my previous companies complain about the very low pay and lack of raises (when I left them for another job, my salary wasn't even on the bell curve for my position on most salary review sites). I still don't understand how people do unpaid internships. That poo poo is unheard of here in Canada.
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A 6 month unpaid internship was a requirement for my graduation. "Think of all the exposure you're getting
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Jan 9, 2015 16:04
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Kurieg posted:A 6 month unpaid internship was a requirement for my graduation. A 6 month paid internship was a requirement for mine. Which lead into a full time job.
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m.hache posted:I still don't understand how people do unpaid internships. You live in a country where the fresh college grad isn't treated like a disposable battery.
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m.hache posted:I still don't understand how people do unpaid internships. No it's not. It's technically illegal but it happens pretty often. Manslaughter posted:You live in a country where the fresh college grad isn't treated like a disposable battery. nah we're ruining the value of a university education too, don't worry!
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Manslaughter posted:You live in a country where the fresh college grad isn't treated like a disposable battery. Nothing says 'welcome to the workforce' better
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EAT THE EGGS RICOLA posted:nah we're ruining the value of a university education too, don't worry! The best move was going to a community college. Instant placement into the field upon completion. My sister went to University and couldn't get a single placement. After 1 year at the local community college brushing up on certain skills she was instantly placed and now is full time.
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m.hache posted:A 6 month paid internship was a requirement for mine. Which lead into a full time job. What a poo poo requirement.
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Inspector_666 posted:This application had a spot for SAT score too, I think. Are you in NYC? Yeah, this job was in the city. I forget where it was, this was a few years back. Anyway, Operation R-r-r-recruiter continues in earnest. The end result is working at Citibank or Barclay's. At this point I'm not even considering it, I think in the calculus of things I'm still happy enough where I am, but I definitely don't want to work for a giant company contracting out to another giant company. All that remains: how do we gently caress with this Indian recruiter?
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Sickening posted:What a poo poo requirement. I think he means that the paid internship was a requirement to get the degree - not to get the job.
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seadweller posted:I think he means that the paid internship was a requirement to get the degree - not to get the job. And that is why I called it poo poo. I get the spirit of it, but its just one of those things that screws over students who are paying there own way.
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Sickening posted:And that is why I called it poo poo. I get the spirit of it, but its just one of those things that screws over students who are paying there own way. Depends on how the place handles it. My brother did 2-3 paid internships as he paid his way through school, and he only paid for 1 credit hour per semester (a few hundred bucks I think), and the school made sure he got the whole shebang: paid housing, decent pay for being effectively a temp. He managed to pay for out of state Georgia Tech tuition prices while still saving enough to buy a relatively nice used car.
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Sickening posted:What a poo poo requirement. It was a placement between 3rd and 4th semester. The job paid $4 more than minimum wage. You got on site experience, more money than working at a fast food restaurant and were better prepared for the working world. How is that lovely?
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