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Sagebrush posted:How does the Lamy 2000 (and other vanishing point pens) keep ink from coming out the end when the nib is retracted? Are they safe enough to carry in your shirt pocket? Upside down or nib-up only? For the VP, the clip is such that it's carried tip up, and there's a little trap door that the nib is behind which also helps keep it from drying out.
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Zadus Rejan posted:It's been a long time since we talked about capless pen. If you buy from a third party seller then the FP companies won't offer warranty if it breaks b/c not an official distributor but you can always get a refund via PP. No as I've purchased JPN FP from overseas via eBay and they were the same as the overseas editions part from being less costly. I've written with the VP and it has a small ink storage which may or may not be a concern for you. Oh and there's the odd clip but I didn't mind. Also, comes in different colors and finishes too if you're undecided.
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Sagebrush posted:How does the Lamy 2000 (and other vanishing point pens) keep ink from coming out the end when the nib is retracted? Are they safe enough to carry in your shirt pocket? Upside down or nib-up only? The Lamy 2000 isn't a vanishing point. It has a cap. If that was your only concern you should totally get one.
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TapTheForwardAssist posted:Due to this thread I got a cheap box of (6) Pilot Varsity on Amazon, and gave some out amongst the larger gifts, and kept a few for me. Just wanted to feel out this whole fountain pen thing before I get too deep into it. If I manage to use one of mine enough to run it out, I'll go buy something nicer with a good seal for travel; the Kaweco Sport seems pretty awesome. Welp, just ordered a Kaweco Skyline Sport from Jetpen, so we'll see how this all works out. I don't write in ink very often, so I figure I might as well be baller when I do. Are there any good essays/articles/blogposts about whatever increase of interest in fountain pens, analog backlash to an increasingly digitized world, stuff like that?
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Thanks for all the answers! I'll wait to see if amazon does some price shenanigan. (70% of my WM carene)
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I dropped my Metro a few weeks ago, it was lidded and landed flat on its side on a hard floor. Since then it often hard starts, even with just a few seconds lifted off the page. Is there anything I can do to fix it or check it? I have done a complete disassembly and clear, reseated nib and feed and the problem persists. 
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Slimchandi posted:I dropped my Metro a few weeks ago, it was lidded and landed flat on its side on a hard floor. Since then it often hard starts, even with just a few seconds lifted off the page. There's a decent chance you've knocked the tines just a touch out of alignment and it's affected the flow. Take out the nib and hold it up against a light source. You should see a clear slit that runs from the breather hole that narrows towards the tip of the tines, and the tines shouldn't be touching. If it's too wide at the tip the ink flow will stop halfway down the slit, if it's touching at the tip too little ink will flow. You can adjust it by squeezing the shoulders of the nib if it's too wide, or pulling (gently!) at the shoulders if it's touching. It may take some trial and error but it's not actually too difficult to do.
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TapTheForwardAssist posted:Are there any good essays/articles/blogposts about whatever increase of interest in fountain pens, analog backlash to an increasingly digitized world, stuff like that? There's FPN and FPG where everyone else who loves stationery and FPs go and discuss the waterproof qualities of ink. Also, a few individual bloggers but they mostly do reviews and comparisons of items vs essays. I'm pretty sure there's a NYT article about how kids these days don't appreciate analog tools or how authors are more creative using pen and paper 
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Decimo or Falcon? I don't particularly care about flex
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TapTheForwardAssist posted:Are there any good essays/articles/blogposts about whatever increase of interest in fountain pens, analog backlash to an increasingly digitized world, stuff like that? You should look through the history section on Raven's March. http://dirck.delint.ca/beta/?page_id=167 And from a quick google search: https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-18071830
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What's a nice ink with a strong sheen like Sailor Jentle Oku-yama? Other than the J Herbin anniversary inks. And anything from Noodlers-- shipping costs are a bitch.
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Fall posted:What's a nice ink with a strong sheen like Sailor Jentle Oku-yama? Sailor Jentle blue-black and shigure also have a strong sheen. Other than those, really noticable sheens from my last pen test: Quink blue-black, Diamine Oxblood and Iroshizuku asa-gao. (Well, any Iroshizuku, really, but asa-gao most prominently.)
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Fall posted:What's a nice ink with a strong sheen like Sailor Jentle Oku-yama? Here you go: http://www.fp-ink.info/en/ A nifty FP ink database of all the colors and comparisons b/t brands. Yes it includes water resistance if you care about that too.
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I just picked this up from UPS. Medium nib btw. Such a pretty pen, and good lord is it smooth.
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Got another odd-ball to share, not sure that it is too common: The Diagraph Control Flo Fountain Marking Pencil    What's that? It's a refillable aluminum magic marker:  A large capacity, refillable marker made for (I suppose) warehouse and shipping needs. The white felt nib is pretty large and rounded. It wouldn't be too difficult to shave it into a chisel for use in calligraphic writing.
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Got a Kaweco Ice Sport in today. Filled her up using my mini converter and.... It starts vomiting ink all over the place because the nib holder is cracked. Great.
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grack posted:Got a Kaweco Ice Sport in today. Filled her up using my mini converter and.... That sucks  I actually got a Kaweco Ice Sport today too, a red one. I popped in the cartridge and it wrote alright. I smoothed the nib out a little bit and its writing quite decently now, just waiting to use all the ink in the cartridge so I can refill it with a syringe and something more interesting than Kaweco blue-purple-teal.edit: Where did you order from? I got one from Goulet and it came with the usual excessive amount of bubblewrap and a tootsie pop. If it was them, I'd contact CS and see if they will replace it. Korwen fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Jan 10, 2015 |
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I also just got a Kaweco Sport today; a "Skyline" model where the logo/end/nib are silver vice gold. It's my first FP after the Pilot Varsity disposables I bought a pack of. Overall getting the hang of writing with an FP, though I wish I'd thought to squint at the ink cartridge before piercing it since I don't usually right in blue (got separate boxes of carts in black and purple since they're so cheap). I'm overall pleased with the Sport, for what it is and $20, since it looks cute with neat lines and handles well. But I'd kinda thought it'd be heavier somehow like old-school implements made of Bakelite and such early plastics. Out of curiosity, is there any current make of FP that's made of a heavy/dense plastic, a bit more old-school? Kinda like these incredibly heavy glasses frames I found at a flea-market that turned out to be Polish from the Communist era, built like a tank yet somehow plastic. Any FP equivalent? EDIT: I suppose plastics like Delrin or Ebonite might give that heavy feel while still maintaining the durability of plastic? TapTheForwardAssist fucked around with this message at 00:45 on Jan 11, 2015 |
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^^^ Ebonite is actually hardened rubber, and it will absolutely shatter if dropped. Thicker bodied acrylic is probably your best bet. That said, I generally like aluminum pens so normally cracking (outside of the nib collar which is really rare) isn't generally an issue.Korwen posted:That sucks I got it at a local pen shop - it was actually cheaper to buy in-store than get it online. The owner switched out the section for me, the new one writes properly. Edit: I also stopped at Lee Valley Tools to buy some more micromesh and brass shimming and there was a guy buying 6 boxes of tea and nothing else. Weird grack fucked around with this message at 01:03 on Jan 11, 2015 |
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TapTheForwardAssist posted:Out of curiosity, is there any current make of FP that's made of a heavy/dense plastic, a bit more old-school? Kinda like these incredibly heavy glasses frames I found at a flea-market that turned out to be Polish from the Communist era, built like a tank yet somehow plastic. Any FP equivalent? Not that are too cheap. Noodler's has a line of acrylic and ebonite pens in the $40 range of their Konrad series, which was named after the Post WWII Chancellor of Germany if you might have any interest in that http://tinyurl.com/m79gol3 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konrad_Adenauer If you did get one of those pens, I'd also recommend getting a replacement nib from Goulet in whichever size you prefer. The Noodler's flex nib is alright, but mine was a little scratchy and hard to fuss with. I much prefer the Goulet 1.1 stub I've since put in my Ahab.
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If you're looking for pens in the Kaweco sport price range, my GF just got a Monteverde Artista to replace the Metropolitan she broke and she seems to really like it. We both thought it'd be really cheap looking given it's a totally clear plastic pen, but it's pretty nice in person.
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Swagger Dagger posted:If you're looking for pens in the Kaweco sport price range, my GF just got a Monteverde Artista to replace the Metropolitan she broke and she seems to really like it. We both thought it'd be really cheap looking given it's a totally clear plastic pen, but it's pretty nice in person. The Artista is definitely cool. I'm thinking of taking this )(@*#$&)@($*)#$(&*)@#(*&$)@*(#&$ Sport back to the shop and trading it in. Holy poo poo is this pen being a pain in the rear end. The nib tines are too tight leading to hard starts and I've tried every damned trick I know to spread them and nothing's worked so far.
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TapTheForwardAssist posted:Due to this thread I got a cheap box of (6) Pilot Varsity on Amazon, and gave some out amongst the larger gifts, and kept a few for me. Just wanted to feel out this whole fountain pen thing before I get too deep into it. If I manage to use one of mine enough to run it out, I'll go buy something nicer with a good seal for travel; the Kaweco Sport seems pretty awesome. My father has an Al-Sport with the fine italic nib, and my sister has a Lilliput in brass. The Al-sport is a lovely pen -- the all-metal everything (it's aluminum) is really nice and it's balanced very well (with the cap posted, as intended.) I think I might get one for myself someday. The lilliput is tiny -- when capped, it's almost exactly the same size as a cigarette, and not a king-size either. The cap screws onto the back and makes it about the length of an unposted normal pen, but it's still half the diameter. It suits her well because she's a very small person but if you're a big goony man with fat hands I imagine it would be like writing with a toothpick. Also, while the Al-sport can take one of the little squeezy converters, the Lilliput is so short it can literally only handle international-short cartridges, so if you want custom inks you'll have to fill up empties with a syringe. Both of them write very nicely, though, and the features of being all-metal and having a wide variety of available interchangeable nibs and feeds are rare enough to recommend them on that basis alone.
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Sagebrush posted:The lilliput is tiny -- when capped, it's almost exactly the same size as a cigarette, and not a king-size either. The cap screws onto the back and makes it about the length of an unposted normal pen, but it's still half the diameter. It suits her well because she's a very small person but if you're a big goony man with fat hands I imagine it would be like writing with a toothpick. Also it looks like a tampon
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TapTheForwardAssist posted:
Lamy Safari? I think it's durable but you may or may not get along w/the triangular grip section. I know there's cheap JPN student pens too but they are lighter and write finely compared to western nibs. Not as durable ofc due to thinner materials but they are plastic. I don't mind plastic myself but I know there's some die-hard fans who loathe the very idea and prefer metal but what I really want to know is how do they tolerate writing w/such a heavy item for notes over time? 404notfound posted:Also it looks like a tampon Gdt now I can't un-see it  And I like pocket pens.
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Alder posted:Lamy Safari? I think it's durable but you may or may not get along w/the triangular grip section. I know there's cheap JPN student pens too but they are lighter and write finely compared to western nibs. Not as durable ofc due to thinner materials but they are plastic. quote:The lilliput is tiny -- when capped, it's almost exactly the same size as a cigarette, and not a king-size either. The cap screws onto the back and makes it about the length of an unposted normal pen, but it's still half the diameter. It suits her well because she's a very small person but if you're a big goony man with fat hands I imagine it would be like writing with a toothpick. I've got pretty small hands; for a long while I used a Fisher Space Pen bullet-type ballpoint, and I still have a Pico (extremely tiny/skinny ballpoint) on my keychain, and in extremis have taken lengthy notes with it. I was turning away from the Lilliput because I prefer plastic over metal, but if it's that small and trim I may need to ponder more. The Ohta Rook looks pretty cool, but gets iffy reviews. For small-but-heavy, it may be that some of the Indian-made hand-turned ebonite pens might be an option. Basically looking for something minimalist/brutalist but not necessarily plain, weighty but plastic, and compact. Not anything desperately urgent, just a little niche I'll keep my eye open to fill someday: 
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404notfound posted:Also it looks like a tampon No more than basically every other fountain pen with a rounded cap. In fact less so because it's too small.
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404notfound posted:Also it looks like a tampon So you have never in your life seen a tampon then (it's way too small and entirely the wrong proportions) TapTheForwardAssist posted:I've got pretty small hands; for a long while I used a Fisher Space Pen bullet-type ballpoint, and I still have a Pico (extremely tiny/skinny ballpoint) on my keychain, and in extremis have taken lengthy notes with it. I also have a chrome bullet space pen and the Lilliput is almost exactly the same size, both capped and posted. Alder posted:I don't mind plastic myself but I know there's some die-hard fans who loathe the very idea and prefer metal but what I really want to know is how do they tolerate writing w/such a heavy item for notes over time? I find it's actually less tiring to use a heavier pen. It's not like it's a great deal of extra mass, but the weight helps keep the nib on the paper through the more twisty strokes even if you're just barely touching the pen. Obviously the balance has to be right, and with most of my metal pens I don't write with them posted because they get really top-heavy. Also the weight is really satisfying. It's like picking up any other well-made hand tool, like a revolver or a socket wrench or whatever, where the unexpected weight makes you you go "ooh, wow, this is serious." I have a lot of good plastic pens too, but for general use I keep coming back to my solid-brass Rotring Newton (with a new internal feed and nib section I machined out of an ArtPen because they never made EF nibs for the Newton/600 series). Sagebrush fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Jan 11, 2015 |
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Sagebrush posted:
Hmm--never thought about it that way since my heaviest FP was a brass one. I have a rOtring 600 and it's on the borderline of too heavy but i like how in the sense it has weight and won't roll away from me on my desk. Although, I've moved away from posting FPs even for shorter pens due to the wear. The only time I disliked lighter FPs is probably my former Sailor Sapporo as it felt too light in a way for writing.
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Kinda weird question: are glass fountain pens a thing? I see no reason why a full-glass fountain pen, except for the nib (and maybe the feed?), wouldn't work.
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Korwen posted:Not that are too cheap. Noodler's has a line of acrylic and ebonite pens in the $40 range of their Konrad series, which was named after the Post WWII Chancellor of Germany if you might have any interest in that  I'd wondered about the name, but I never would've thought the Noodler's guy would name something after not-American history (and even though the party Adenauer is from is called the Christian Conservative party, they're essentially US Democrats except with broader appeal)
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Actually glass-nibbed fountain pens are definitely a thing. I'm not talking single piece dip pens either - real fountain pens with self-contained ink resevoirs. They were very popular in Eastern Europe for a few decades after WWII. SBREBrown actually has a review of a glass-nibbed fountain pen on his channel - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP3BErwsSKc Edit: And one up for sale on eBay http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Vintage-Haro...=item1e98034b3a grack fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Jan 11, 2015 |
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grack posted:Edit: And one up for sale on eBay http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Vintage-Haro...=item1e98034b3a Hey, that's actually not too expensive! Maybe... quote:-Technical condition: the piston-filling mechanism is not in working order. 
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Mikl posted:Kinda weird question: are glass fountain pens a thing? I see no reason why a full-glass fountain pen, except for the nib (and maybe the feed?), wouldn't work. They are popular for calligraphy. I did see a glass nibbed FP once on a blog but it wasn't working and just a interesting historical tidbit. Agreed w/the issues of it being very fragile and a pain to modify into a custom nib if wanted due to material.
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grack posted:
I wonder if the broken lever fill is an issue of the actual lever or if it just has a worn out ink sac?
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Alder posted:Lamy Safari? I think it's durable but you may or may not get along w/the triangular grip section. Just selling my Safari for this exact reason, not heavy enough and the grip puts my fingers too close for comfort. Any experiences of using the Lamy Studio instead? I love Lamy styling. UK goons - WHSmith seem to have a few heavy discounts on selected pen brands. http://www.whsmith.co.uk/dept/stationery-pens-fountain-pens-12x00077
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