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homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007

bloodychill posted:

Goons always say this but it's probably just selective memory to help forget the escort portion of MGS2 punctuated by Otacon crying about loving his step-mother or mother or God knows.

The signature story-telling of the series is 60 minutes of soldiers making GBS threads themselves and bad guys made out of bees followed by 20-30 minutes of oh-so-serious hand-wranging from Kojima about how the world has gone to poo poo. Rinse and repeat. It's still fun, though. I just hope we don't get a return of the vag bomb with 5. That was decidedly a misstep.
His sister is afraid of water because their dad died while otacon was loving their mom. And then you get to meet otacon's mom and dad in later games and they're comic relief. Serious storytelling.

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Stick Figure Mafia
Dec 11, 2004

If you go from Peace Walker to Ground Zeroes there is this crazy tone-switch where these goofy lighthearted characters are tortured.
Phantom Pain actually looks a lot lighter than Ground Zeroes and more like the MGS I enjoy and I'm happy about that.

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

On the moon... they don't make Neo Kobe Pizza.

Metal Gear Solid 5 is a serious game where you can strap on a chicken hat and get inside a cardboard box that pops out to display a sexy pin-up model to confuse inept guards and then knock out said guard and attach a balloon to their rear end to abduct the soldier for profit (or they may die because the wind decides they want to kill them) and if you're spotted then you can escape on your horse which you can hit a button to make the horse take a dump which is actually a weapon you can use to make the jeep chasing you skid out when they drive over it then crash into a tree, knocking out all the guards in the jeep so you can walk up and try to balloon-abduct the jeep which ends up hitting the tree above it and exploding which kills all the guards in the jeep. And at some point Big Boss, the dude with a robot hand and a jagged piece of shrapnel embedded in his skull that looks like a demon horn, is probably gonna shoot a bunch of African kids while screaming as the music from Platoon plays and you learn a lesson about I dunno the Afghanistan war economy.

Metal Gear gameplay has always been at odds with Metal Gear story and it's great.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
That and the Yakuza series go together for me, they are the perfect balance of hard-boiled badassery and abject silliness. GTA and its ilk never got that just right, I think.

BreakAtmo
May 16, 2009

homeless snail posted:

His sister is afraid of water because their dad died while otacon was loving their mom. And then you get to meet otacon's mom and dad in later games and they're comic relief. Serious storytelling.

Um, no, it was his stepmom, who we've never met in a game.

Static Rook
Dec 1, 2000

by Lowtax
Beat Wolfenstein, very fun game. Played it mostly on easy to just glide through, but some parts I went back and played through on Uber just to see what it was like / get trophies. I think the last chapter and boss fights are now one of my favorite "levels" in modern video games. A bunch of enemies of different types, a bunch of weapons to use on'em, and a map that lets you approach the fights how you want. The final boss is very satisfying to kill on Uber as well.

I thought about going back and doing a collectible run, but I think I'm good.

Hopper
Dec 28, 2004

BOOING! BOOING!
Grimey Drawer

NESguerilla posted:

I'm cautiously optimistic about Dying Light. Personally I thought the gameplay videos looked pretty good, but I also thought Dead Island was super half baked so I'm going to wait for opinions before I consider buying it. I could really go for a good single player game.

A friend of mine worked on Dead Island. He gave me some inside into what went down at the publisher's durig development. Apparently it was a mess because they had the entire team working on too many games at once and pushed the game out the door far too early. And believe it or not: He is super pissed and left the old publisher mainly because he suggested the Parcours element as early as the original Dead Island, several times actually, in meetings with the developers. His bosses shot the idea down because cost/benefit whatever. The developers made notes on these suggestions though, changed publisher and implemented his ideas. Now some prick comes out and presents himself as the great saviour of dead island style games due to his great and blatantly stolen idea to implement parcours. That said, it could be a pretty good game if they get it right.

MUSCULAR BEAVER
Dec 26, 2014

HENDO! HENDO!

Policenaut posted:

Metal Gear Solid 5 is a serious game where you can strap on a chicken hat and get inside a cardboard box that pops out to display a sexy pin-up model to confuse inept guards and then knock out said guard and attach a balloon to their rear end to abduct the soldier for profit (or they may die because the wind decides they want to kill them) and if you're spotted then you can escape on your horse which you can hit a button to make the horse take a dump which is actually a weapon you can use to make the jeep chasing you skid out when they drive over it then crash into a tree, knocking out all the guards in the jeep so you can walk up and try to balloon-abduct the jeep which ends up hitting the tree above it and exploding which kills all the guards in the jeep. And at some point Big Boss, the dude with a robot hand and a jagged piece of shrapnel embedded in his skull that looks like a demon horn, is probably gonna shoot a bunch of African kids while screaming as the music from Platoon plays and you learn a lesson about I dunno the Afghanistan war economy.

Metal Gear gameplay has always been at odds with Metal Gear story and it's great.

I should play a metal gear game

Failboattootoot
Feb 6, 2011

Enough of this nonsense. You are an important mayor and this absurd contraption has wasted enough of your time.

MUSCULAR BEAVER posted:

I should play a metal gear game

Metal Gear Solid is some poo poo. I will always have a soft spot for the series because it's completely tone deaf and insane and I never stop finding it delightful.

homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007

All Metal Gears know they are video games and tell stories befitting video games, your first mistake is taking video game stories seriously.

Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009


precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
I'm dumb enough to believe Square when they say FF15 is coming out this year and it looks really, really good.

Electromax
May 6, 2007

Probad posted:

Persona 5 is pretty much the only game I'm actually excited for in for 2015 so far.

Bloodborne will likely be a good game, but its aesthetic is dumb as hell.

BB has a dumb aesthetic but the Persona series is fine? I only tried P3 and P4 but the art design seemed about as generically anime as you can get. Bah!

MGS5 = 2015 for me. And Zelda/Uncharted 4, if they hit this year.

Saagonsa
Dec 29, 2012

Anime is good.

homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007

Saagonsa posted:

Anime is good.
I'm gonna have to agree with this.

Organs
Feb 13, 2014

i like the bloodborne aesthetic because we never get games in settings like that so it's different and refreshing

Attitude Indicator
Apr 3, 2009

question: friend of mine bought NHL15 the other day, digitally, and downloaded it. the game is completely broken. Everything is laggy and choppy. The EA logo at the starts is choppy, menus are choppy, sound falls in and out, the game itself is completely unplayable with over a second between frames.
Tried deleting and redownloading again. tried restoring licenses. restarting the machine. going offline. downloaded another game digitally, which worked fine. It's only that game that's broken, everything else works fine.
Anyone know anything about this? Google doesn't give much help, mostly people complaining about online lag.
I guess all he can do is ask for a refund?

BreakAtmo
May 16, 2009

precision posted:

I'm dumb enough to believe Square when they say FF15 is coming out this year and it looks really, really good.

Square haven't said that though? At least not to my knowledge. All the trailers end with 'In Development'. Though the demo is coming in March, hopefully.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

BreakAtmo posted:

Square haven't said that though? At least not to my knowledge. All the trailers end with 'In Development'. Though the demo is coming in March, hopefully.

Oh. :( I thought the new wave of trailers was because they were aiming for actually releasing it this year.


Saagonsa posted:

Anime is good.

:agreed:

Attitude Indicator
Apr 3, 2009

actually, I think the voucher you can get to download the demo when it's eventually released is coming in march.

square-enix.

Peel
Dec 3, 2007

precision posted:

Oh. :( I thought the new wave of trailers was because they were aiming for actually releasing it this year.

I think they're just trying to convince people they're actually working on it.

BreakAtmo
May 16, 2009

precision posted:

Oh. :( I thought the new wave of trailers was because they were aiming for actually releasing it this year.

That's still possible. Though I think it's more likely to just be that even Square understands how untrustworthy people are of the project (there were goons completely convinced that the game was dead right before TGS a few months ago) and so they're offering constant reassurance that it's progressing, to the point of showing walkthroughs of unfinished environments where some buildings are just wireframes.

Attitude Indicator posted:

actually, I think the voucher you can get to download the demo when it's eventually released is coming in march.

square-enix.

That's why I said maybe, though it was recently confirmed that the demo is in the polish phase now.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
I badly want a behind the scenes documentary of what working at Square-Enix is like. I mean is everyone just sitting around getting stoned and watching hentai all day like a modern-day Atari or what? FINISH YOUR drat GAMES!

incorporeal
May 6, 2006

homeless snail posted:

your first mistake is taking video game stories seriously.

That's a problem that will never leave this message board.

Static Rook
Dec 1, 2000

by Lowtax

precision posted:

I badly want a behind the scenes documentary of what working at Square-Enix is like. I mean is everyone just sitting around getting stoned and watching hentai all day like a modern-day Atari or what? FINISH YOUR drat GAMES!

I just want an interview with the guy that did nothing but make a texture for a rock for, like, 2 years. Either it was the chillest, best 2 years of his life and he became a happy, productive dude outside of work or it was some Kafka-level psychological-dread mindfuck and he's a hollow, broken man. There is no in-between.

That Fucking Sned
Oct 28, 2010

They've chosen a release date for FFXV, but Tabata says it's later than you might think. I'm guessing it's going to have a worldwide release in Spring 2016, rather than late 2015. They would be stupid to have it release in Japan before the rest of the world, because the number of PS4 and XB1 owners there is tiny, and there would be a ton of spoilers around before we even get our hands on it.

There's also been rumours from Goofy's voice actor and an unsourced presentation slide that Kingdom Hearts III is coming out this year, but after hearing about their issues with Unreal Engine 4 last year, it's hard to imagine it's that far along. Then again, maybe the reason they chose UE4 was because they wanted to begin working on it as soon as Nomura was reassigned from FFXV in 2011, and didn't want to wait for Luminous to be finished.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Ruddha posted:

when mgs5 comes out i'll never stop playing it im afraid.

To be honest this is the game i'm most excited for. The Metal Gear Solid series is really amazing and all of the games are great.

That loving Sned posted:

They've chosen a release date for FFXV, but Tabata says it's later than you might think. I'm guessing it's going to have a worldwide release in Spring 2016, rather than late 2015. They would be stupid to have it release in Japan before the rest of the world, because the number of PS4 and XB1 owners there is tiny, and there would be a ton of spoilers around before we even get our hands on it.

I can believe the game coming out worldwide at once, but not because of spoilers. Square-Enix has never cared about that before. Western gamers have been getting Final Fantasy spoiled since Final Fantasy VII, if not later then that. I knew everything about Final Fantasy XII and XIII way before they came out in the U.S.

precision posted:

I badly want a behind the scenes documentary of what working at Square-Enix is like. I mean is everyone just sitting around getting stoned and watching hentai all day like a modern-day Atari or what? FINISH YOUR drat GAMES!

Put everything on the backburner and pool all resources into making a sequel to Deus Ex: Human Revolution.

I said come in! fucked around with this message at 15:04 on Jan 11, 2015

Static Rook
Dec 1, 2000

by Lowtax

I said come in! posted:

To be honest this is the game i'm most excited for. The Metal Gear Solid series is really amazing and all of the games are great.

This and Bloodborne for me. But holy poo poo, I was skimming the MGS V thread and it's the embodiment of :yikes: Apparently not having David Hayter voice Boss Snake is the worst thing to ever happen in the history of human civilization.

Szurumbur
Feb 17, 2011
Square's Final Fantasy XV announcements have been the best: new info, we're changing the title! new info, we have a release date, which may be later than you think!

Then again, if you go into a Final Fantasy megathread there are a few posts about the new director of Final Fantasy XV, who has been surprisingly informative about the development and how they're doing.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Static Rook posted:

This and Bloodborne for me. But holy poo poo, I was skimming the MGS V thread and it's the embodiment of :yikes: Apparently not having David Hayter voice Boss Snake is the worst thing to ever happen in the history of human civilization.

I was concerned about this at first, but play Ground Zeroes and you'll see that it ended up not being a big deal.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



It sucks, but it wont stop the game being good (assuming it winds up being good).

A small part of me will be compelled to think 'this isn't really MGS' no matter what though. Like... 5%.

J-Spot
May 7, 2002

That loving Sned posted:

There's also been rumours from Goofy's voice actor and an unsourced presentation slide that Kingdom Hearts III is coming out this year, but after hearing about their issues with Unreal Engine 4 last year, it's hard to imagine it's that far along. Then again, maybe the reason they chose UE4 was because they wanted to begin working on it as soon as Nomura was reassigned from FFXV in 2011, and didn't want to wait for Luminous to be finished.
I can't imagine Kingdom Hearts III releasing any time prior to 2017 considering a recent interview with Nomura suggested they hadn't even picked the Disney levels they were going to use. They have finished creating new outfits for Sora and Riku though so in their mind development is going well.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




Static Rook posted:

This and Bloodborne for me. But holy poo poo, I was skimming the MGS V thread and it's the embodiment of :yikes: Apparently not having David Hayter voice Boss Snake is the worst thing to ever happen in the history of human civilization.

he hams it up with the gravel voice so much in peace walker he's almost unintelligible and its great. I can't imagine a better performance from him.

keifer barely says anything in gz but he seems totally fine. TIme will tell but i think it will still be great.

VarXX
Oct 31, 2009

That loving Sned posted:

There's also been rumours from Goofy's voice actor and an unsourced presentation slide that Kingdom Hearts III is coming out this year, but after hearing about their issues with Unreal Engine 4 last year, it's hard to imagine it's that far along. Then again, maybe the reason they chose UE4 was because they wanted to begin working on it as soon as Nomura was reassigned from FFXV in 2011, and didn't want to wait for Luminous to be finished.

The source of that slide is actually the same retailer from the Metro Remastered leaks.

e:

VarXX fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Jan 11, 2015

Static Rook
Dec 1, 2000

by Lowtax

I said come in! posted:

I was concerned about this at first, but play Ground Zeroes and you'll see that it ended up not being a big deal.

I've gone through the main mission in GZ and yeah, I came away thinking Keifer was fine. That's why some of the reactions in that thread weirded me out. But vidya games :shrug:

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

It was weird because I've been used to hearing Hayter since like '97 but it wasn't really bad.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
I've always hated Hayter's voice so MGS5 is the first one I'm kind of like "I might not wait until it's super cheap to play that one".

Bass Bottles
Jan 14, 2006

BOSS BATTLES DID NOTHING WRONG
If I wanted to get into the MGS series in time for Phantom Pain, where should I start? The first one? I know they're not chronological, and PP is early-on, so could I play a few specific games to get me caught up on the story? Or is it an "they're ALL worth playing, and if you do it chronologically you'll find it hard to go back to the older games" kind of thing?

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Bass Bottles posted:

If I wanted to get into the MGS series in time for Phantom Pain, where should I start? The first one? I know they're not chronological, and PP is early-on, so could I play a few specific games to get me caught up on the story? Or is it an "they're ALL worth playing, and if you do it chronologically you'll find it hard to go back to the older games" kind of thing?

I think Metal Gear Solid 3 is the best introduction for someone new to the series. It's tough to say this though. The games all play similarly, but each game really improves the controls, adds new gameplay mechanics, and removes gameplay mechanics too. Metal Gear Solid 3 is probably the most complex.

Ground Zeroes is the most accessible MGS to date tho, while not losing any complexity, freedom in how you approach situations, or realism.

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Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

Bass Bottles posted:

If I wanted to get into the MGS series in time for Phantom Pain, where should I start? The first one? I know they're not chronological, and PP is early-on, so could I play a few specific games to get me caught up on the story? Or is it an "they're ALL worth playing, and if you do it chronologically you'll find it hard to go back to the older games" kind of thing?

The only ones you need to play before Phantom Pain are MGS 3 and Peace Walker, all the others are set chronologically later, though there'll be nods to future events, I'm guessing.

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