colonel_korn posted:

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Rorus Raz posted:

Art Spiegelman did an interview regarding the shooting

There's a video of the interview, along with the first part. Covers a few topics.

@TedRall posted:

“even the most ruthless satirists have their sacred cows” http://t.co/u3tadD290r With all due respect, gently caress off, @SaladinAhmed. I don’t.

I know it’s not all about me, but it’d be nice to get “credit” for the chances I took and the price I paid for political satire after 9/11.

1. This past week’s events reminds me of being interviewed for a job as a cartoonist at the Asbury Park Press in New Jersey.

2. The editorial page editor had been trying me out as a freelancer for months. Finally the editor was considering hiring me on staff.

3. The interview went very well. Finally, he said, “I have just one last question:”

4. “Will I ever look outside my window and see people protesting a cartoon that you drew?” I was caught by surprise.

5. I answered truthfully: “I don’t know. Maybe. Not intentionally, but it’s certainly possible.” He replied: “wrong answer.”

6. Naturally I didn’t get the job. Eventually they hired someone else. Perhaps he answered the question correctly.

7. Shortly thereafter, this was in the 1990s, the newspaper in Harrisburg Pennsylvania flew me out to be interviewed for a cartoonist job.

8. There weren’t any questions like that, but close. They decided to add another sports writer instead of hiring a cartoonist.

9. I was considered for a job in St. Louis, but the editorial page editor said that her readers didn’t want to be challenged or offended.

10. Then there was the Sacramento Bee. They flew me out, but the editor there said that the decision came down to a choice:

11. Did they want to rattle “the good burghers of Sacramento,” or give them something fun to read over breakfast? They chose the latter.

12. Every political cartoonist has stories like this. Cowardice is the dominant personality trait in the press in the United States.

@TedRall posted:

Four days after #CharlieHebdo, 0 cartoonists hired in US, 1 laid off.

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Just under a year ago, I started a new gig that I was cautiously excited about : creating editorial comics for the Week in Review section of The New York Times. David Rees was going to write them and I was going to draw them. This seemed like an ideal partnership; David (creator of the satiric comic Get Your War On) has a great skill for walking the fine line between irony and sincerity, and is extremely funny as well. We both wanted to try to do new things with the political strip format, and bring metahumor to the Times.

Already, though, things were not as we’d been promised. The Times had approached David and then myself in April of 2013. After approving us, they told us their master plan: Brian McFadden, the resident comic artist, would be replaced by myself and David alternating with Lisa Hanawalt. This would be a part of the exciting revitalization of the Week in Review section. To that end, they told us to wait while their redesign proceeded.

By September, the redesign seemed to be finished; but the editor in charge decided that something as exciting as this new comic rotation couldn’t be unveiled in a dull month like September. Better to wait until… January! when it could be announced to the world with the appropriate fanfare and excitement.

So we waited seven months in all. And on January 20th, David & I created our first strip for the Times… which was printed with no fanfare or announcement or anything; we were simply dumped into an alternating slot with McFadden, because by then Lisa was simply too busy (drawing Bojack Horseman). The brilliant strategy of waiting all that time had backfired, because in fact it was pointlessly stupid.

Then there was the money. The New York Times- get this- refused to come up from the fee for one artist, which we were to split. We finally got them to come up a little, but only a little. These strips are done in a very short time period- basically between Wednesday night and Friday morning, and I stayed up all night for a couple fo them. We were going to be making very little money, but still, it was an opportunity to do good work, maybe make some statements on serious issues and have them be seen by people. And the Times still stands for something in peoples’s minds, some kind of editorial quality.

Of course, it didn’t work out at all; their nitpicking, antiquated style of editing got more oppressive until they were killing entire strips. And it’s quite clear they were refusing to print them because they didn’t understand them. It was like being edited by hobbits.

- See more at: http://www.hoodedutilitarian.com/2015/01/my-nyt-nightmare/#sthash.Icj47OvL.PuBb4PyK.dpuf

Rorus Raz posted:

Cpt.Americant posted:

But to be fair, dude was a serious drunk and more than a bit of a shithead even by his time's standards.

vyelkin posted:

Canada's first prime minister, Sir John A. MacDonald, turned 200. By any standard nowadays he would be considered a racist, colonialist, alcoholic shithead, so naturally there's a large movement to overlook all that by judging him according to the standards of his own time/whitewashing Canada's horrible early history because he's Canada's version of George Washington and (perhaps more importantly) was a Big C Conservative so our current Conservatives claim him as one of their own.

colonel_korn posted:

7 "Fit to Pint?"

El Scotch posted:

He also wanted to give women the vote.

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At a time when Ontario was preparing to expand access to the vote, Macdonald contrived to keep the property-based qualification. Along with most members of his party, he had a profound aversion to universal suffrage, which he considered one of the greatest evils that could befall a country. Perhaps convinced that most women were conservative, Macdonald suggested giving the vote to widows and spinsters who owned property. He backed down, however, in the face of objections from some of his own members, and the suspicion remains that Macdonald had inserted the clause as a sacrificial lamb, never intending that it survive final reading of the bill.

Flowers For Algeria posted:

1) "The SNCF [French national railway company] raises its prices - the train is only for the rich" "the what?" - Catherine Meurisse, alive.
2) "A Roma baby won't be buried" "except if he's accompanied by his parents!" - Babouse, alive.
3) "Still no terrorist attacks in France" "Wait!" "We still have until the end of january to wish people a happy new year" - Charb, dead. Holy poo poo, though.
4) "Why did a mayor not allow the burial of a Roma baby?" "Because it would attract the ones who are alive.

Rorus Raz posted:

Angry Salami posted:

"The wolf will live with the lamb,
the leopard will lie down with the goat,
the calf and the lion and the yearling together;
and a little child will lead them."
- Isaiah 11:6 Some stupid naive hippie

alnilam posted:

Spaniards were here several thousand years before the rest of europe

(I know many hispanic people have some native american ancestry but this cartoon still strikes me as really weird)

colonel_korn posted:

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Monaghan posted:

I really don't care if he was a drunk, It's a way bigger deal that he was a racist rear end in a top hat , which any attack on him should focus on.

Samurai Sanders posted:

Is there anything in the bible that isn't contradicted somewhere else?

Rorus Raz posted:

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After that brief cartoon on a major event involving his profession, Ford decided to do a much longer and more obnoxiously formatted cartoon on what's really important: being absolutely sure that God hates fags. He gets $3000+ a month to do this.

crowoutofcontext posted:

ECCLESIASTES comes pretty close to contradicting everything else in the Bible.

"For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have
no further reward, and even the memory of them is forgotten.
Their love, their hate and their jealousy have long since vanished; never
again will they have a part in anything that happens under the sun."

escape mechanism posted:

16.
That's Cabu, one of the victims.

escape mechanism posted:

19.
"Ho! So that's what Charlie Hebdo really is?!"
"My god, this is vulgar!"
"How awful!"
"A cock?"
"This is dirty!"

Duckbag posted:

John is also full of lines that contradict the other gospels and many scholars believe it was written significantly later. Someone who actually knows his Bible is free to contribute specific examples, but in general, the Jesus depicted in John is much less "human" and far more explicitly divine than he is in the other sources.

There's also the case of the Pentateuch/Torah wherein you can often find multiple accounts of the same story that blatantly contradict each other. Most famously, Genesis features two full accounts of the Garden of Eden story that basically follow the same arc but often differ hugely in the details. The Documentary Hypothesis offers one explanation for how these repeated sections came to be.

Rorus Raz posted:

Apple Pie Hubbub posted:

Super Saiyan Mr. T posted:

I've been looking at that DbD for a solid 5 minutes trying to visually parse that second panel. Is Black Mouthpiece trying to gently caress the bedsheets? Is he trying to lift Token Liberal's legs? I know it's a thread meme to make fun of Muir's art but that's a level of "What the gently caress am I looking at" that I haven't had in a long time.

tacodaemon posted:

I'm absolutely stumped too. Anyone have any ideas?

tacodaemon posted:

I'm absolutely stumped too. Anyone have any ideas?

djw175 posted:

That's his back. He's sitting up on the bed. It's horribly drawn, but I'm used to parsing deviantart drawings so I could figure it out.

Rorus Raz posted:

Art Spiegelman did an interview regarding the shooting




There's a video of the interview, along with the first part. Covers a few topics.

Apple Pie Hubbub posted:

Apple Pie Hubbub posted:

Cpt.Americant posted:

They are never going to forget that he empithised with a dead kid that one time will they? Why is this supposed to be such a massive burn to him?

Apple Pie Hubbub posted:

Cpt.Americant posted:

They are never going to forget that he empithised with a dead kid that one time will they? Why is this supposed to be such a massive burn to him?

Shadeoses posted:

If North Korea had free trade and communication with the world it would be destroyed, or at the very least the despotic monarchy would be ousted. A Good Cartoon.