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Ochowie
Nov 9, 2007

Apoplexy posted:

It doesn't blow because there's more than a little bit of him being a prophet being true.

Uh, no there isn't.

For actual content:

Megazver posted:

Well, I listened to it. She has strong delivery, I guess? The problem with the material, if there is any, is that it's fairly obvious LGBT 101 poo poo and it was preached (the past tense of preach should totally be 'proach' or 'praught', btw) in front of a liberal choir. I'm a straight, not super liberal guy from Eastern Europe and even for me there wasn't a single zag where I expected a zig. It was well delivered zigs all the way. Gaffigan releases hour after hour of food jokes, sure, but they're at least something that I haven't heard before.

I look forward forward to her next album, where she'll actually have to do jokes about something else.

Yeah I listened to her album and it does have a vibe of preaching to the converted. The show was recorded in Portland and she does five minutes about lesbian porn not being representative of lesbian sec. No poo poo? Is there anyone either in the audience or listening to the album who heard that and had their world rocked?

Ochowie fucked around with this message at 00:14 on Jan 12, 2015

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Orkin Mang
Nov 1, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Apoplexy posted:

It doesn't blow because there's more than a little bit of him being a prophet being true.

giving bland semi-tragic humanist lessons isnt really my idea of prophetic. i love louis ck but hes no wise man

Ariza
Feb 8, 2006


I'm fat and Hispanic! That's funny, right?

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006

Ariza posted:



I'm fat and Hispanic! That's funny, right?

This guy just seems like the hackiest, most obnoxious comedian ever, focus-grouped to appeal to people's parents. I work with an annoying older woman who loves him, and she has pretty awful taste in general. Does he have any redeeming material at all?

bango skank
Jan 15, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Ariza posted:



I'm fat and Hispanic! That's funny, right?
I went to the Comedy & Magic Club once for a friends birthday, and this guy was supposed to be headlining so I wasn't that up for it. Luckily he had canceled for some reason though, and instead Darren Carter took the spot.

Ochowie
Nov 9, 2007

Ariza posted:



I'm fat and Hispanic! That's funny, right?

Who is this guy?

ibntumart
Mar 18, 2007

Good, bad. I'm the one with the power of Shu, Heru, Amon, Zehuti, Aton, and Mehen.
College Slice

Ochowie posted:

Who is this guy?

Gabriel Iglesias. He's not the worst comedian in the world, but he's definitely not someone I'd look forward to seeing. He definitely seems more oriented toward a broad mainstream audience. I don't know how much of his stuff is specifically about being Latino. The material of his I've heard is mostly stories about some dumbass friend who always plays practical jokes on him.

WerthersWay
Jul 21, 2009

Iglesias was on WTF last year and like Larry the Cable Guy and other comics who have really dumb, specific material, he's actually really smart and totally cognizant of what he's doing with his brand. If you go to Vegas, airports, or malls, you'll see kiosks devoted entirely to merchandise with his catchphrase/nickname, "Fluffy."

As a Latino, I find him really annoying and as a comedy fan I think he's totally unfunny, but I understand his business savvy. There's a big market out there for Latinos since George Lopez is essentially retired from stand-up and Carlos Mencia's huge drawing days are over. And by Latinos I don't mean "Hispanic comedy fans" but couples who go to the Laugh Factory for date night and just so happen to be Guatemalan. So good for him for getting some money in a tough industry, I say.

But if you want to see good Latino comedians, check out Last Comic Standing winner/East LA native Felipe Esparza if you're into dirty, raunchy stories or The Daily Show's Al Madrigal whose POV is more nuanced since he's half-white and grew up lower middle class. He has this super funny bit about his son's cholo soccer coach that I recommend listening on Spotify.

WerthersWay fucked around with this message at 06:45 on Jan 12, 2015

ibntumart
Mar 18, 2007

Good, bad. I'm the one with the power of Shu, Heru, Amon, Zehuti, Aton, and Mehen.
College Slice

Mordecai Sanchez posted:

Iglesias was on WTF last year and like Larry the Cable Guy and other comics who have really dumb, specific material, he's actually really smart and totally cognizant of what he's doing with his brand. If you go to Vegas, airports, or malls, you'll see kiosks devoted entirely to merchandise with his catchphrase/nickname, "Fluffy." As a Latino, I find him really annoying and as a comedy fan I think he's totally unfunny, but I understand his business savvy.

This is a perfect summary, actually.

Mordecai Sanchez posted:

So good for him for getting some money in a tough industry, I say.


Yeah, I don't begrudge him his success either. He's making it and he's not selling us out in the process, so yay for him.

Mordecai Sanchez posted:

But if you want to see good Latino comedians, check out Last Comic Standing winner/East LA native Felipe Esparza if you're into dirty, raunchy stories or The Daily Show's Al Madrigal whose POV is more nuanced since he's half-white and grew up lower middle class. He has this super funny bit about his son's cholo soccer coach that I recommend listening on Spotify.

Seconding that Al Madrigal bit recommendation.

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer

Ror posted:

What was the geek one one like? That reminds of a great article he wrote for Wired a few years ago that always pops into my head. I kind of just wanted an excuse to post it in this thread: http://www.wired.com/2010/12/ff_angrynerd_geekculture/all/

He talks about having to watch a lot of kids cartoons with his daughter, thus learning all about the characters. Then he goes into a spergy description about some mundane aspect of MLP, and he ends that with a line about how people can geek out about anything.

jodai
Mar 2, 2010

Banging with all due hardness.

Mordecai Sanchez posted:

Iglesias was on WTF last year and like Larry the Cable Guy and other comics who have really dumb, specific material, he's actually really smart and totally cognizant of what he's doing with his brand. If you go to Vegas, airports, or malls, you'll see kiosks devoted entirely to merchandise with his catchphrase/nickname, "Fluffy."

As a Latino, I find him really annoying and as a comedy fan I think he's totally unfunny, but I understand his business savvy. There's a big market out there for Latinos since George Lopez is essentially retired from stand-up and Carlos Mencia's huge drawing days are over. And by Latinos I don't mean "Hispanic comedy fans" but couples who go to the Laugh Factory for date night and just so happen to be Guatemalan. So good for him for getting some money in a tough industry, I say.

But if you want to see good Latino comedians, check out Last Comic Standing winner/East LA native Felipe Esparza if you're into dirty, raunchy stories or The Daily Show's Al Madrigal whose POV is more nuanced since he's half-white and grew up lower middle class. He has this super funny bit about his son's cholo soccer coach that I recommend listening on Spotify.

I was about to say I really liked one of Iglesias' old bits but I misremembered, it's actually Freddy Soto and he's pretty funny. Alex Reymundo also springs to mind when I think of Latino comics.

Al Madrigal is a great story teller. To me his voice sounds a lot like David Cross and he has a similar delivery so I really enjoy him on another level for that.

This is not related to anything else, I just think Tig Notaro is brilliant.
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Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007
Iglesias is mostly inoffensive and does some pretty good impressions (though I'm pretty sure he's only got, like, three voices). He's much better than Carlos Mencia, but then again, many things are much better than Carlos Mencia, including asbestos, black mold, and the clap.

XIII
Feb 11, 2009


I'm not a fan of Gabriel Iglesias' comedy, but I've got nothing against the guy. He's managed to make a killer living by catering to the masses with middle of the road (topic wise) comedy. He isn't "pushing the boundaries of comedy" or "making biting social commentary" or whatever the gently caress, but he's not claiming to. Dude just tells jokes about being fat and makes a few million a year. I respect that hustle. Plus, from everything I've ever heard about him, he's apparently the nicest loving dude ever and takes care of the people around him.

All of that said, one of the guys that opens for him fairly often, Rick Gutierrez, is a massive oval office whose ego is through the roof simply because he's friends with Gabriel. Seriously, gently caress that guy.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
Yea if like, I somehow HAD to go to a show of his I wouldn't be upset. He's really bland and not that funny but he's not offensive or bad or anything, just, like said, a dude who's main focus is his brand so every other joke is "I'M NOT FAT I'M FLUFFY HAHAHAHAHAHAHA" and some high pitched shrieking voice because it's legitimately fairly funny when a big fat guy does a Gremlin style high pitched squeal. And like, yea gently caress it standup is a cut throat thing, if I found a niche that pays out the rear end you'd have to do some serious talking to convince me that the life of someone making ok money at best ~staying true to the art~ is better than making lots of money telling ok jokes forever.

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XIII
Feb 11, 2009


Plus, stand-up "fame" is a fleeting thing, so it makes sense to fill as many Scrooge McDuck style vaults with stacks of cash as you can before people stop buying tickets to see you.

soggybagel
Aug 6, 2006
The official account of NFL Tackle Phil Loadholt.

Let's talk Football.
Keep in mind with PYHT its really a low stakes show. Comedians are trying/polishing and most of what Esposito does is crowd work and random musings that may go into an actual set.

Web Jew.0
May 13, 2009

Mordecai Sanchez posted:

Iglesias was on WTF last year and like Larry the Cable Guy and other comics who have really dumb, specific material, he's actually really smart and totally cognizant of what he's doing with his brand. If you go to Vegas, airports, or malls, you'll see kiosks devoted entirely to merchandise with his catchphrase/nickname, "Fluffy."

As a Latino, I find him really annoying and as a comedy fan I think he's totally unfunny, but I understand his business savvy. There's a big market out there for Latinos since George Lopez is essentially retired from stand-up and Carlos Mencia's huge drawing days are over. And by Latinos I don't mean "Hispanic comedy fans" but couples who go to the Laugh Factory for date night and just so happen to be Guatemalan. So good for him for getting some money in a tough industry, I say.

But if you want to see good Latino comedians, check out Last Comic Standing winner/East LA native Felipe Esparza if you're into dirty, raunchy stories or The Daily Show's Al Madrigal whose POV is more nuanced since he's half-white and grew up lower middle class. He has this super funny bit about his son's cholo soccer coach that I recommend listening on Spotify.

Well put dude. Quoting so I can quote this in the future.

Shovelbearer
Oct 11, 2003
Paragon of Lexicon
I'm taking part in a World Record attempt in April: http://nashvillestandup.com/WorldRecord/

This should be a lot of fun, plus I might actually get some decent video for once (doing at least a ten-minute set, but I mean that's a lot of time to fill so if they have leftover time where they need fillers, I'm going to try to stretch my legs a bit.)

goldblums eyes
Jan 11, 2011

So I bought Ari Shaffir's 'Paid Regular' special from CC Direct. I got about 20 minutes in and turned it off which I don't normally do. Am I alone in thinking it wasn't good at all? I saw him live a couple years ago and was entertained, but man. No bueno.

Piquai Souban
Mar 21, 2007

Manque du respect: toujours.
Triple bas cinq: toujours.
That's kinda my experience with the specials for everyone in the DeathSquad(tm).

I can enjoy them live or in storyteller shows.

Apoplexy
Mar 9, 2003

by Shine
I've only enjoyed Joe Rogan's stand-up of the DeathSquad crew. I was surprised, too. I love JRE now that I gave his stand-up a try and see him as a know-bunches stoner, as opposed to a silly jock.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006
Yeah, Rogan's stand-up is alright. He's not top tier but I enjoyed his poo poo.

NoEyedSquareGuy
Mar 16, 2009

Just because Liquor's dead, doesn't mean you can just roll this bitch all over town with "The Freedoms."

goldblums eyes posted:

So I bought Ari Shaffir's 'Paid Regular' special from CC Direct. I got about 20 minutes in and turned it off which I don't normally do. Am I alone in thinking it wasn't good at all? I saw him live a couple years ago and was entertained, but man. No bueno.

Any time I hear another comedian praising Shaffir's standup I just assume they're doing it for the sake of being polite. When I first heard about him I listened to "Revenge for the Holocaust," and don't remember laughing at a single joke in the whole thing. His material seems to consist entirely of semi-jokey proclamations of his own terrible opinions, while the audience kind of nervously chuckles at it in the same polite manner, then he follows it by a bunch of "am I right?" type qualifying statements to I guess pretend he doesn't actually believe the things he just said. It's real bad.

manyak
Jan 26, 2006

NoEyedSquareGuy posted:

Any time I hear another comedian praising Shaffir's standup I just assume they're doing it for the sake of being polite. When I first heard about him I listened to "Revenge for the Holocaust," and don't remember laughing at a single joke in the whole thing. His material seems to consist entirely of semi-jokey proclamations of his own terrible opinions, while the audience kind of nervously chuckles at it in the same polite manner, then he follows it by a bunch of "am I right?" type qualifying statements to I guess pretend he doesn't actually believe the things he just said. It's real bad.

his material is so bad at first I thought he was just constantly doing an anti comedy type impression of a really bad com,ic, and Hell, I still think that.

goldblums eyes
Jan 11, 2011

His special makes me reconsider my whole life. I listened to his podcast, went to see him when he came to town and laughed out loud with my friends I brought with. I hadn't heard any of his stand up since, and was repulsed by his new special. I'm not a negative person, but it was god awful.

What is a ~new visual special (I practically know nothing about comedy) that I can cleanse my palette with? I've already watched Chelsea and Bill Burr's new specials.

Apoplexy
Mar 9, 2003

by Shine
Visual? Do you know Eugene Mirman? Half of his act is visual stuff, I'd say.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006

goldblums eyes posted:

His special makes me reconsider my whole life. I listened to his podcast, went to see him when he came to town and laughed out loud with my friends I brought with. I hadn't heard any of his stand up since, and was repulsed by his new special. I'm not a negative person, but it was god awful.

What is a ~new visual special (I practically know nothing about comedy) that I can cleanse my palette with? I've already watched Chelsea and Bill Burr's new specials.

I suspect Bo Burnham might be one of the comedians goons feel snobbish about, but I really enjoyed 'what'. He's got it up on his Youtube channel for free:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejc5zic4q2A

Apoplexy
Mar 9, 2003

by Shine
Everyone wants to feel snobbish about him and then just can't disparage his work. He's goddamned amazing, and I generally hate musical comedians.

XIII
Feb 11, 2009


That Bo Burnham special is goddamn fantastic. I've always been fairly in the middle about him (respected his talent, but just didn't love his work), but that immediately made me a fan. Exact same thing for my girlfriend. But, I had a friend who turned it off ten minutes in because he couldn't put aside his preconceived notion and felt like Bo was "too much of a bro", which I think shows just how poor his understanding of him is. Watch what..

NoEyedSquareGuy
Mar 16, 2009

Just because Liquor's dead, doesn't mean you can just roll this bitch all over town with "The Freedoms."
Burnham is funny, and as far as I can tell the only reason people don't like him is because they think he's a "Youtube celebrity" like Pewdiepie or something. I'll echo the statement that I generally hate musical comedians, but he's good enough to overcome it.

Having actually watched Shaffir's new special now, I can say that it's at least better than Revenge for the Holocaust. Overall crude and not particularly funny, but there were at least a few points where I laughed whereas I can't remember doing that with his previous special. He still seems like he's trying too hard to get the audiences approval instead of just doing his material and letting people decide whether or not it's funny on their own, but he at least seems to have improved somewhat. I'd give it about a 3-4/10.

If nothing else, it made me realize that I haven't seen any truly great standup specials in a while. Bill Burr's newest is pretty solid, but since Stewart Lee released Carpet Remnant World back in 2012 that's kind of been my standard for amazing specials and nothing has really come close. It seems like there aren't really that many "greats" left doing it now that Carlin is dead, with the popular comedians like Ansari or Nanjiani being enjoyable but not really anything spectacular. Are there any genuinely amazing comedians still in the business that are flying under the radar for the most part? Lee, C.K, and Stanhope are probably the three people closest to reaching some kind of Carlin-grade quality at the moment.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006
I dunno, I thought Jim Jefferies' last two albums that came out in this time period were on that level.

CaptainHollywood
Feb 29, 2008


I am an awesome guy and I love to make out during shitty Hollywood horror movies. I am a trendwhore!

Megazver posted:

I suspect Bo Burnham might be one of the comedians goons feel snobbish about, but I really enjoyed 'what'. He's got it up on his Youtube channel for free:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejc5zic4q2A

I find the special on the whole "good", with parts either being "great" or just "ok" and nothing in between. For his age - he's incredible. He has true stage presence and charisma that can't be faked. I remember watching this for the first time and when he did his "knocking water over" bit I knew he was a pro.

I'm actually doing stand-up for the first time on Sunday and will hopefully have video of it. I've been writing stuff for two years, but I'm finally doing something about it. Is it ok if I post the video in here or is that frowned upon?

NoEyedSquareGuy
Mar 16, 2009

Just because Liquor's dead, doesn't mean you can just roll this bitch all over town with "The Freedoms."

CaptainHollywood posted:

I'm actually doing stand-up for the first time on Sunday and will hopefully have video of it. I've been writing stuff for two years, but I'm finally doing something about it. Is it ok if I post the video in here or is that frowned upon?

Probably more appropriate over in the Comedian thread in Creative Convention, though that sub-forum is a bit slow going. Good job actually having the nerve to get on stage.

Shovelbearer
Oct 11, 2003
Paragon of Lexicon
I think the most belly-laugh-inducing special I saw in the last year was Tom Segura's that's on Netflix.

Ror
Oct 21, 2010

😸Everything's 🗞️ purrfect!💯🤟


I've enjoyed Ari live but I haven't seen his new special and didn't really like Revenge for the Holocaust. His best recorded work is his VOD special Passive Aggressive, which he worked on for loving ever. I'd recommend that people check it out and judge him based on that because nothing else he's done has been anywhere near as tight or polished.

ChickenArise
May 12, 2010

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I have watched all or almost all of This Is Not Happening and it's mostly good with a handful of great (Trevor Moore, Sean Patton, Tom Segura, and Steve Rannazzisi). Hopefully when it airs I discover that I missed a few.

WerthersWay
Jul 21, 2009

Burnham is really underrated for a guy who has a bazillion Youtube videos. He's like the only young comic I've heard on WTF who Marc was not only not passive-aggressive to, but who also got life advice from Marc on not being sad and depressed and such. I think they met on Paul Provenza's show because Marc played this song at the end of Bo's episode:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6LAvRVVqSI

goldblums eyes
Jan 11, 2011

Ror posted:

I've enjoyed Ari live but I haven't seen his new special and didn't really like Revenge for the Holocaust. His best recorded work is his VOD special Passive Aggressive, which he worked on for loving ever. I'd recommend that people check it out and judge him based on that because nothing else he's done has been anywhere near as tight or polished.

Yeah, when I saw him it was his Passive Aggressive material. It was fun, but I really don't know what happened to him :(.

For Bo, I never liked him because he seemed extremely abrasive/IN YOUR FACE RAWRRRR. But I watched his first special a while ago and it Really changed my mind. I still think the same of him, but now think he's a good jokewriter.

CaptainHollywood
Feb 29, 2008


I am an awesome guy and I love to make out during shitty Hollywood horror movies. I am a trendwhore!

NoEyedSquareGuy posted:

Probably more appropriate over in the Comedian thread in Creative Convention, though that sub-forum is a bit slow going. Good job actually having the nerve to get on stage.

Ah cool thanks for that.

While I think his stand up is just 'good', Bill Burr's podcast rants/advice are great! Been listening to them on YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGxCQB7xpH4

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WerthersWay
Jul 21, 2009

I can't believe we forgot to mark the one year anniversary of Bill Burr being unable to make it through a Shari's Berries ad read.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl5JDzvkEA0

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