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I'm happy about the GTs performance and that it is going to be a product, but the styling really doesn't do it for me. Integrated exhaust looks bad, rest of car is super generic.
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Fucknag posted:Mid engine v6 powered supercar for relatively cheap? Sounds like Ford is doing the NSX better than Honda it's doing the actual new one. ford is saying to expect "450-500hp" and more than 434ft/lbs of torque for the new raptor, too. There is a really god chance of a sub-5 second 0-60. And that's the 3rd most interesting vehicle ford announced today. 
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Jan 12, 2015 17:55
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Ford and Dodge are making it really loving hard to decide on what stupid car to buy to piss off my wife.
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Jan 12, 2015 17:58
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Meet the new NSX http://www.acura.com/FutureVehiclesNSX.aspx  twin turbo V6, 2 electric motors.
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Jan 12, 2015 18:10
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I can't handle all these cool cars being announced. I just can't.
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Jan 12, 2015 18:11
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It's funny how we now have two diametrically opposed models for how to run a domestic car brand now - Ford is absolutely killing right in making enthusiasts happy and, even though enthusiasts don't buy cars, they are loud in the press and on social media and are a core component of managing a brand's image through their enthusiasm. Cadillac wants to remove enthusiasts from its equation, but at that point, what would there be left to get excited about? Wood trim options?
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Powershift posted:ford is saying to expect "450-500hp" and more than 434ft/lbs of torque for the new raptor, too. There is a really god chance of a sub-5 second 0-60. You are killing me with that picture man. Where are the details on the Fiesta and Focus? Edit: I get it, no PR yet, It's just torture to see the pic and have no info yet. Rhyno fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Jan 12, 2015 |
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Jan 12, 2015 18:15
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It's just a focus ST and fiesta ST.
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Jan 12, 2015 18:16
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Just noticed the ST badges too. When's the RS supposed to be revealed?
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Jan 12, 2015 18:19
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The video at the bottom is well done, it's also almost an apology and acknowledgement of them loving up and losing their way after the great products they began with.
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Jan 12, 2015 18:20
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I thought the RS was bowing at the show? God drat it.
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Jan 12, 2015 18:21
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mobby_6kl posted:Just noticed the ST badges too. When's the RS supposed to be revealed? dunno if this is legit or still rumors but http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/news/a6342/2016-ford-focus-rs-first-details-exclusive-insider-info/ quote:We've been hearing rumors that the U.S. will get a Ford Focus RS super-hatch for months. Now we have some exclusive info on what's coming. A Ford source has confirmed to Road & Track that the next-generation Focus RS is likely to come to North America in extremely limited numbers. Unlike its predecessor, it'll be AWD.
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blk posted:The video at the bottom is well done, it's also almost an apology and acknowledgement of them loving up and losing their way after the great products they began with. I saw nothing like that, I saw a bunch of fat-rear end SUVs and bodykitted Accords in their little flash lineup after they were out of the early 90s. If Honda wants to start apologizing for losing their way they could start by not making cars anymore. Cool looking car once you get over the headlights. Seat Safety Switch fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Jan 12, 2015 |
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I hope the Honda team felt suitably  when they saw that Ford GT.
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Jan 12, 2015 18:27
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Rhyno posted:You are killing me with that picture man. Where are the details on the Fiesta and Focus? I'd kill for either the Fiesta or Focus with AWD and that 3.5 TT V6 they're shoving into everything else
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blk posted:It's funny how we now have two diametrically opposed models for how to run a domestic car brand now - Ford is absolutely killing right in making enthusiasts happy and, even though enthusiasts don't buy cars, they are loud in the press and on social media and are a core component of managing a brand's image through their enthusiasm. Cadillac wants to remove enthusiasts from its equation, but at that point, what would there be left to get excited about? Wood trim options? Are you basing this entirely on this monday morning's auto show and ignoring everything else chevy does? I mean wasn't it just two days ago we were looking at a possible mid-engine corvette mule? Does Cadillac really need to compete with Ford or should they be competing with Lincoln anyway? It's great that they have their -V models but I've never viewed it as an enthusiast brand to begin with.
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neckbeard posted:I'd kill for a $50k Fiesta or $55k Focus. 
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Jan 12, 2015 18:46
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2016 toyota tacoma is V6 only. Either the old 4.0 piece of poo poo, or a 3.5 liter direct injection atkinson cycle engine that's sure to put you to sleep, but at least it comes with a 6 speed stick.
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Jan 12, 2015 18:55
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InitialDave posted:I hope the Honda team felt suitably Why? They are different animals
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Nodoze posted:Why? They are different animals yeah. the acura NSX is a $150k mid engine twin turbo V6 supercar. The ford GT might not be $150k
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Jan 12, 2015 18:58
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Nodoze posted:Why? They are different animals If only for the excitement, people are going to talk about the new GT constantly, I doubt the new NSX will get as much buzz.
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Jan 12, 2015 18:58
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Nodoze posted:Why? They are different animals Are they? Mid-engined twin turbo V6es, probably in a similar price range, race in similar classes.
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Twerk from Home posted:Are they? Mid-engined twin turbo V6es, probably in a similar price range, race in similar classes. No, they're completely different. The NSX is a ~600hp twin turbo V6 mid engine supercar with a dual clutch transmission. It is a technology showcase made of aluminum, carbon fiber, and high strength steel. The GT is supercar with dual clutch transmission and a mid mounted ~600hp V6 with two turbos. It is a showcase of technology made from carbon fiber, high strength steel, and aluminum.
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Rhyno posted:I thought the RS was bowing at the show? God drat it. I've heard that Ford isn't gonna show the RS until Geneva in March. I was definitely hoping for today, but Ford already brought it today.
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Jan 12, 2015 19:10
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The problem with the nsx is that I feel like it's been a pending model for like 5 years. It's lost a lot of momentum in my mind.
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They're also saying "north of 550hp" for all the motors combined, in a car with 3 electric motors which obviously weigh something. It could end up at 3600lbs+ in a field of cars weighing 3300 and 550hp in a field of cars with 650.
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neckbeard posted:I'd kill for either the Fiesta or Focus with AWD and that 3.5 TT V6 they're shoving into everything else Neither one of those cars make a bit of sense, I know this is AI, but Fiesta or Focus with that engine would make no sense at all. blk posted:It's funny how we now have two diametrically opposed models for how to run a domestic car brand now - Ford is absolutely killing right in making enthusiasts happy and, even though enthusiasts don't buy cars, they are loud in the press and on social media and are a core component of managing a brand's image through their enthusiasm. Cadillac wants to remove enthusiasts from its equation, but at that point, what would there be left to get excited about? Wood trim options? I don't know what the sales numbers are, but the FiST and FoST sell really well, and people are gobbling up Mustangs as quick as they can. Here in Texas used Raptors go for crazy prices. Caddy is turning it's brand around, but I think their pricing is a bit off (as do other folks as they just dropped 3K off MSRP on the CTS). They have a long way to go before people choose a Vsport over a comparable German car.
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Rhyno posted:I thought the RS was bowing at the show? God drat it. That's how I feel. What Ford showed off is fantastic but I might actually buy the RS. A MIRACLE posted:dunno if this is legit or still rumors but http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/news/a6342/2016-ford-focus-rs-first-details-exclusive-insider-info/ quote:extremely limited numbers Or maybe not
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Which is especially funny since both the ats and CTS seem to be pretty widely regarded as better drivers cars than their competition.
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Powershift posted:Meet the new NSX Heh, GTA5 was creepily prophetic on this thing considering there wasn't so much as a whisper about the real car when they were developing the game AFAIK. http://gta.wikia.com/File:Jester-GTAV-frontquarter.jpg Even the specs are pretty similar (except the Jester has AWD)
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Tommychu posted:Heh, GTA5 was creepily prophetic on this thing considering there wasn't so much as a whisper about the real car when they were developing the game AFAIK. it looks more like the concept which has been dicking around since 2012 
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Blah. The coolest thing about the NSX way back was that it was simpler and easier to run/drive than the opposition. This one, is just like all of it's competition. Boosted V6. Electric motors. Lots of automated gears. I can already hear all the marketing buzzwords. Because that's why this vehicle exists. Marketing. wooooooo.
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If the NSX as announced had launched 4-5 years ago it would have been pretty interesting and cutting edge, but now it's just another 'me-too' pseudo-super car in an overcrowded field.
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I may sound like a luddite, but I'd love it if Honda would stop shoving this hybrid poo poo down our throats.
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I enjoyed C&D's concluding lines about the 350Rquote:We continue to be amazed that, in this heavily regulated era, major automakers can keep cranking out these sorts of bonkers track machines. The fact that Ford can take a vehicle as extreme as the Shelby GT350 Mustang and make it even more insane, and then sell it in showrooms next to Fiestas and Fusions, points to a bright and glorious future for all of us. 
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SFH1989 posted:That's how I feel. What Ford showed off is fantastic but I might actually buy the RS. Yeah, if it's limited I don't expect it to be the easiest car to buy.
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So Chevrolet has the Bolt and the Volt now, when do the Colt, Dolt and Molt launch?
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MrChips posted:So Chevrolet has the Bolt and the Volt now, when do the Colt, Dolt and Molt launch? If only Bolt and Volt were some how related words that somehow tied into the vehicle's they represent. Bolt is still a stupid name for that car.
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