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morning wood posted:Amen. Saw a funny interview with Patrick Chapin saying he would never do it because it's classless. 2015 IPG update: Game Play Error - Lands in Front Game Loss (upgrade path for repeated violation)
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Jan 12, 2015 21:45
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Gyshall posted:ban all cards in modern ~ Bring back Extended, obviously.
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Gyshall posted:ban all cards in modern ~ It's a work in progress
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Jan 12, 2015 21:49
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Ban all expensive cards I don't already own.
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Jan 12, 2015 21:51
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Entropic posted:Ban all expensive cards I don't already own. Reprint all the expensive cards I don't own. Also ban Tarmogoyf. Also also make Duck Faygo Modern Legal.
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Jan 12, 2015 21:56
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Count Bleck posted:Reprint all the expensive cards I don't own. The last of those they unironically should've done.
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Jan 12, 2015 21:59
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Angry Grimace posted:Bring back Extended, obviously. Bring back Extended circa '98.
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Mercury Crusader posted:Bring back Extended circa '98. This but 2004 and make LSV play his GP Anaheim deck from back then on stream/vods in extended '04 dailies.
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Jan 12, 2015 22:05
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Gyshall posted:ban all cards in modern ~ Ban spells. Creeping Tarpit 4eva~
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All formats of magic should be a deck made up of Elves, or a deck made up of Goblins
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did you know that for the first couple of years after legacy was changed from being vintage lite, the best deck was indisputably Goblins and there was talk about banning Lackey?
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Elyv posted:did you know that for the first couple of years after legacy was changed from being vintage lite, the best deck was indisputably Goblins and there was talk about banning Lackey? No, Lackey was actually banned. That's why it was on FtV : Exiled. EDIT: No, it was banned in Extended. Nevermind.
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Jan 12, 2015 22:21
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Elyv posted:did you know that for the first couple of years after legacy was changed from being vintage lite, the best deck was indisputably Goblins and there was talk about banning Lackey? Doesn't surprise me. Goblins is still good despite running at least 50 cards that are over ten years old.
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Jan 12, 2015 22:22
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Chamale posted:Doesn't surprise me. Goblins is still good despite running at least 50 cards that are over ten years old. It would be the best deck in the format if it was able to run a 20 year old card, too
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Jan 12, 2015 22:27
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Ban nonlands with CMC<4. Every day I'm durdlin'.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:2015 IPG update: That sounds way too good to be true.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:2015 IPG update: Took the liberty of fixing that for you. 
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:2015 IPG update: The change I want for legacy.
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forbidden lesbian posted:Is there even a way for dredge to work without dread return, like what would the dredge deck look like in modern if Grave troll is unbanned but not dread return? It would still be really clunky and would just fill up the yard faster for not that much reward. Considering Siege Rhino is a better Bloodbraid that always cascades into an uncounterable Lightning Helix every time Bloodbraid should get unbanned.
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Yawgmoth posted:Ban nonlands with CMC<4. Every day I'm durdlin'. I was trolling some people discussing possible bans by agreeing unbanning BBE, but banning all cards with CMC 3 or less and also banning one of the tron lands. Some of them thought it was serious when 2 others caught on and said they'd heard rumours of a single tron land ban.
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In a format with only lands allowed what wins? Like either the Mishra's Factory/Mutavault plan outrace or the Blinkmoth/Inkmoth Nexus plan.
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Jan 12, 2015 22:55
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Bugsy posted:Considering Siege Rhino is a better Bloodbraid that always cascades into an uncounterable Lightning Helix every time Bloodbraid should get unbanned. Hahaha no really what? This can't be a real comparison that someone is actually making. Drain opponent for 3 is not an ability that is on par with the spell Lightning Helix. Zoness fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Jan 12, 2015 |
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I would look for something built around Stage-Depths with Tolaria West to be very powerful, with a possible foil in the form of Mystifying Maze. So basically, once again it comes down to "blue decks" vs. "broken colorless mana". 
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Gyshall posted:Replace Modern with Momir Basic would watch that pro tour.
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Zoness posted:Hahaha no really what? This can't be a real comparison that someone is actually making. I've seen that comparison made all the time. It's perhaps a little exaggerated, but I definitely understand the reasons people are saying it.
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Jan 12, 2015 23:01
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Zoness posted:Hahaha no really what? This can't be a real comparison that someone is actually making. Similarly, a 3/2 for 4 body, even with haste, is not on par with a 4/5 trampler. The combined value of the spells isn't all that far off, they're just apportioned differently.
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Jan 12, 2015 23:03
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Myriad Truths posted:I've seen that comparison made all the time. It's perhaps a little exaggerated, but I definitely understand the reasons people are saying it. It's an incredibly bad comparison. Siege Rhino is not that great of a card, especially when put next to something like Bloodbraid Elf which is a 3/2 and a removal spell, discard spell, or extra body. The drain life effect is nowhere near equal to the value of the card advantage BBE brings with it.
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TheKingofSprings posted:It's an incredibly bad comparison. A lot of pros themselves have been making the comparison, Rhino is basically a more consistent version of BBE. Sure, the ceiling is higher for the cascaded spell on BBE, but you aren't always going to get a spell that's relevant and/or useful. On the other hand, you always know what you're getting with Rhino.
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Siege Rhino also yields nothing if countered while BBE and its cascaded spells are each resolved in the stack individually. The counterpoint to this is that BBE does nothing if put into play directly which only matters for pod which is a deck that wouldn't play BBE anyway.
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I think that maybe comparing two cards as wildly different as Seige Rhino and Bloodbraid is bad.
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Also, you can pod into a Rhino but not a BBE. I do think with Deathrite gone, BBE might be okay again. It seems like with no turn-two Liliana, and Cruise-enabled Delver everywhere, Jund loses a lot of its former steam.
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LordSaturn posted:I would look for something built around Stage-Depths with Tolaria West to be very powerful, with a possible foil in the form of Mystifying Maze. So basically, once again it comes down to "blue decks" vs. "broken colorless mana". E: You'd probably need to make the minimum deck size smaller though, otherwise it's a) pretty boring and b) aggro is probably unworkable. is that good fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Jan 12, 2015 |
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Bugsy posted:Siege Rhino is a better Bloodbraid Anyone who says this never played in a format where Bloodbraid was legal
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LordSaturn posted:Also, you can pod into a Rhino but not a BBE. Gonna jam simian spirit guides for T2 lilies.
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When should I sell or trade my Elspeths (paper and online) before the duel deck? Becayse that's going to torpedo her price right?
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Allstone posted:It feels like there could be a control deck built around Quicksand, Maze of Ith, Kor Haven, etc (Kjeldoran Outpost finisher maybe)? Tolaria West is absurd in the format all-round though, yeah. You guys are forgetting the aggro deck. Mutavault, Mishra's factory, Blinkmoth Nexus, Dryad Arbor, Zoetic Cavern, Treetop Village, Faerie Conclave, Ancient Tomb, Pendelhaven, and 7 UG lands assuming a 40 card deck. Maybe throw in a Stalking Stones or 2 for the lategame. It's basically unbeatable.
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I always appreciate it when amulet increases in popularity, it's one of the few decks that is played in my area that straight up folds to main deck blood moons.
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suicidesteve posted:You guys are forgetting the aggro deck. Mutavault, Mishra's factory, Blinkmoth Nexus, Dryad Arbor, Zoetic Cavern, Treetop Village, Faerie Conclave, Ancient Tomb, Pendelhaven, and 7 UG lands assuming a 40 card deck. Maybe throw in a Stalking Stones or 2 for the lategame. It's basically unbeatable. I don't know why you people trying to theorycraft for this format aren't starting with 4x Strip Mine 4x Wasteland and possibly Tectonic Edge and maybe even Dust Bowl.
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