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MrMoo posted:Just though of the second major reason: permissions. Giving a tarball or zip file to someone means they can extract and run software without privileges. Very useful in finance firms with the most harsh lock down policies ever. I think you can do this for ages with rpm --prefix=/opt/carrots relocation already but that goes back to the initial points. In that sense, they can also do this to RPMs and other packages. "rpm --prefix" will try to write the rpmdb anyway, and may packages aren't relocatable. "rpm2cpio | cpio -idmv" (or whatever cpio flags you want) will happily extract it, though. Very locked down environments often have user-accessible bits mounted noexec, though, so this isn't an option. And "extract tarballs so you can bypass lockdowns!" is both terrible security and terrible software development practice. It's not a feature or a reason. It's lazy development. Also, having worked in a number of finance firms and consumer banks, there's not nearly as much security as people hope there is, but there are very regular auditing scripts which would catch stuff like ~youruser/bin having a bunch of unapproved software and get you a some emails pretty fast.
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What's that? You need a 4gb of /tmp space to install your package? Wonderful!
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Bhodi posted:What's that? You need a 4gb of /tmp space to install your package? Wonderful! Depending on the system, 4gb of free /tmp/ space doesn't seem unreasonable. But I deal with a lot of servers running MySQL with HUGE innodb/myisam tables. Need at have at least 1.5 times free space of the largest table to do successful repairs....
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evol262 posted:terrible security and terrible software development practice. That sums up financial institutions. I've always seen their Unix/Linux environments infinitely more practical than the Windows workstations: no CD drives, blocked USB ports, filtered Internet, multiple weeks delay on security audit on software, etc. Hilarious when my colleagues get stuck by it. I've always managed to bypass the restrictions with the clients I have worked with though, from using webmail in Thailand to using plain SCP.
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Jan 9, 2015 23:10
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quote:Hello, Let's just tear out exchange, wipe our asses with the 250 cals, and do it your way.
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Jan 9, 2015 23:13
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Well OWA is utterly terrible at the best of times. Seemed to have broken image uploads for all OS X browsers for the last month or so, how they can mess up a simple HTML button is beyond me.
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Jan 9, 2015 23:22
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MrMoo posted:Well OWA is utterly terrible at the best of times. Seemed to have broken image uploads for all OS X browsers for the last month or so, how they can mess up a simple HTML button is beyond me. The version of safari that came with Yosemite also horribly broke Sharepoint.
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Jan 9, 2015 23:24
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Jan 9, 2015 23:25
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Farking Bastage posted:The version of safari that came with Yosemite also horribly broke Sharepoint.
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Jan 9, 2015 23:27
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We use Office 365 at work, and it seems that every time I load it up and set about doing something it lets me do it for a few seconds before overlaying a massive "this webpage needs to be refreshed" dialog (wtf, I just browsed to it), or just refreshes without asking.
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Cross-posting from the Career Path thread: So, after working at the same lovely motel for 4 years, I finally started searching around for something in the field I want to get into (IT). I'm one exam away from an A+ certification, but I figured it would be worth applying places before I got it just in case. Yesterday, I finally got a call back and I now have an interview set up, but the thing is, it's a work from home position. Basically it's an entry level help desk position for a 3rd party tech support company, which is based in Texas, but I would be doing everything from my computer at home. It sounded awesome at first, and still kinda does, but working from home is whole new territory for me, and the reason I'm posting is to get some input from those of you who have experience working without leaving your front door. I'm nervous about the position for a few reasons. For one, this will be my first tech position, so I'm having the obvious doubts about my ability to do the job. I think I'll be okay once I go through training (paid training, woo!), but its still something I'm nervous about. The other thing is that I'll be working from home, so I'm gonna have to be real disciplined on separating work time from home time. I'm really excited about getting this new job, I just want you guys to tell me that it's all gonna be okay! The pay is 9/hr at first, then 10 after 30 or 60 days, I forget which. There is also apparently a performance review every 60 days with potential raises. But honestly I'm making 8 now and I'm mostly doing it for the entry level experience I need, so its not the biggest factor. However, please tell me if that's like, astronomically low for this kind of position (I'm in central Florida).
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I can't comment on wages, but re: work from home - Try to have one room as your office, that you use for work and as little as possible for personal time. It'll allow you to keep some semblance of separation between work/life.
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This job sounds like bs, but if you need to get your feet wet or they money...
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Bone posted:Cross-posting from the Career Path thread: That doesn't seem like a very appealing job if you want to get started in IT. Tech support seems like it should be closely related to IT, but it's very different. Since you will be working from home and tied to your telephone, you aren't going to be getting your hands dirty with any of the physical aspects of an IT job - pulling apart workstations, building racks, making sure cabling is all good. If I can be so presumptuous as to offer you two pieces of advice: 1) Don't be nervous about this job. It might seem like a big leap going from a motel job to the "technology industry" but I think you are going to discover pretty fast that tech support jobs can be just as much of a poo poo sandwich as a fast food job. Don't be surprised if you do your first shift (after training) and realize the company you are working for is completely dysfunctional, even more so than the motel you just worked for. 2) Keep looking for something better. My gut feeling from what you wrote is that you want to break into IT but you've been suckered into a tech support role, keep working at getting your certs and applying for real entry-level positions and you'll hopefully end up at "help desk" -- that's the real entry level position for IT. You will be everyone's bitch for years but it will be real IT.
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Also don't get caught up in the terminology (help desk, tech support, etc.). Look at the type of work you're doing. If you're answering phone calls and reading from a script, that's the "bad" kind of tech support that won't get you anywhere (because you're not thinking or making decisions, you're just reading from a script). If you're helping people with their computer problems by using your own brain, researching, and problem solving abilities to troubleshoot, that's the "actual" entry level IT.
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Thanks for the replies, everyone. I'm going to take the job if they offer it, but I will definitely finish my A+ and keep looking. At the very least this will be something computery-related I can put on my resume, right? Plus 10/hr will give me some breathing room that I could definitely use.
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part of the important experience of working on a helpdesk team is the collaborative work environment many provide. Generally speaking, you will find a helpdesk segmented into open areas where 10 or so (or more, depending on the organization) can easily work together. It makes it easy to learn by osmosis and to ask for help. Even now, in a senior position, there is something missing for me when I work from home instead of from my desk. Being with the team helps me to understand what's going on with the environment just by hearing what kind of tickets they are working. I'm not saying that you can't thrive in a work from home job, or that you shouldn't take it. I'm just saying that a work from home gig for the helpdesk will be missing some je ne sais quoi.
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adorai posted:part of the important experience of working on a helpdesk team is the collaborative work environment many provide. Generally speaking, you will find a helpdesk segmented into open areas where 10 or so (or more, depending on the organization) can easily work together. It makes it easy to learn by osmosis and to ask for help. Even now, in a senior position, there is something missing for me when I work from home instead of from my desk. Being with the team helps me to understand what's going on with the environment just by hearing what kind of tickets they are working. Yeah. A big part of my help desk experience was learning from those around me. And board games during lunch break.
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Was contacted about a position at a, uh, very prominent web company at the end of last April, but I was still overseas at the time so they asked me to get in touch with them when I got back. Unfortunately, they filled it like the week I flew back to the states, however last week I saw a nearly identical position posted at the same location. So I decided to shoot the recruiter an email and she asked me to send her an updated resume to be handed to the hiring managers for consideration. So I guess the moral of the story here is keep in contact with people.
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Anyone here use Alfresco content management?
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A work from home job for 10/hr means no commute which is nice when you make so little.
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SaltLick posted:A work from home job for 10/hr means no commute which is nice when you make so little. You could walk to the nearest Target or Subway and make more in most states. Starbucks will pay for your college. What's the appeal of $20k before taxes? Work from home may be worth a cut from $90k to $85k. Not $25k to $20k
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evol262 posted:You could walk to the nearest Target or Subway and make more in most states. Starbucks will pay for your college. What's the appeal of $20k before taxes? He makes $8. He's getting $10. Take it. If it sucks and it probably will start looking for other help desk jobs since you'll have the basic experience.
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incoherent posted:Anyone here use Alfresco content management? We have it in production as part of our order management system but I really don't touch it. I've played with the free version a few years ago and it was a pain to get up an running.
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Being a sysadmin is going to kill me I think, a bunch of people left above and below me and my teammate and now we're left doing the work of at least 6 people. What options are there to move on from generalist sysadmin stuff that gives you that sinking feeling and feel of dread constantly? I don't think I can do management because I'm too much of a shithead. I'm thinking maybe I should specialise in something so all the on call, sinking feeling poo poo is at least greatly reduced from how I have it now, but no clue what I should do as a specialization. I'm a general vmware/linux/infrastructure kinda admin at the moment and it loving sucks balls.
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In our industry I think the recipe for mobility in 2015 is to get/refine skills in  AWS and Chef. Everyone is (for better or worse) moving their poo poo into the cloud and those are (rightfully imo) the preferred options at the moment. I've only been looking for management positions (start a new gig next Tuesday) but I still have 10+ recruiters a week leaving me messages to hire "Senior DevOps Engineers" with those skills and they are offering ridiculous numbers because the demand so far outstrips the supply.
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This showed up in my LinkedIn feed: **URGENT ROLE**I am looking for a Service Desk Team Leader to head up the the Global Service Desk responding to and resolving IT support requests and incidents made into the team by use of the client Travel Call logging system (HEAT). Providing cover and support to all users in the clients within the UK Division and other Global Divisions. paying £35k and interviewing ASAP Does £35k seem laughably low for this?
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For a hell desk team lead? Not really. That is about $50k. My first job out of Uni 8 years ago was a "Senior" Dev and that started at £33k
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theperminator posted:Being a sysadmin is going to kill me I think, a bunch of people left above and below me and my teammate and now we're left doing the work of at least 6 people. I'm green and probably have a lighter workload than you, but I started going gray for a couple of months and was loving losing it and I read Limoncelli's Time Management for System Administrators (there's a Kindle edition). He dives right into the core concept that having to remember 500 things at once (my job, and I assume yours) ruins your alacrity on the job, even if you don't consciously realize it. I started writing down absolutely everything and only focusing on what was right in front of me. My stress level went way down, I stopped worrying about fires and focused on the work I was doing, which hopefully leads to fewer fires anyway.
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MagnumOpus posted:In our industry I think the recipe for mobility in 2015 is to get/refine skills in Not Chef necessarily, just that config management is a requisite part of  AWS has been desirable for years, but you'd have just as much luck learning Openstack (I get 10+ messages a week about it) or any other buzzwordy thing.The industry hasn't changed that much. Learning a config management system will make you a better admin whether or not you end up doing cloud stuff. Broadly, learning basic scripting and programming in a language which isn't shell is the best skill you can get for mobility.
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theperminator posted:I'm a general vmware/linux/infrastructure kinda admin at the moment and it loving sucks balls. How does this suck? Sounds like a dream come true.
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Tab8715 posted:How does this suck? Sounds like a dream come true. Being a general infrastructure linux sysadmin is awful in terms of daily grind and lack of people knowing or giving a gently caress about what you do.
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psydude posted:Being a general infrastructure linux sysadmin is awful in terms of daily grind and lack of people knowing or giving a gently caress about what you do. That is the same for any tech job where you are working with non technical people. They don't know, or care what you do just that you are overhead and must do as they say because. Example being Sales/Marketing asking for things which are "simple" and "quick" because hey they don't care about data leakage between resellers and distributors. So when you point out their "simple" and "quick" change is in fact a data security nightmare and the only way to get it to work is to complete throw away the tools standard UI and build a new one that might break every release from the vendor they just think you are lazy and/or stupid. Yes Marketing Drone #3428 I am the stupid one because I don't want our Resellers to steal each others business so they get pissed at us and we end up with no Resellers in an organisation that sells entirely through Resellers. There are times when I think about just jumping over into product engineering rather than IT but then it means dealing with BS politics between nerds which is worse imo.
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Personally I like working with non-technical people. Granted if non technical people weren't so bad at understanding technical process I wouldn't have a job. You see, I'm a people person!
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I used too before the current bunch I worked with found an Agile Development book somewhere and decided that telling me to develop everything in an Agile way means they tell me nothing and I have to guess what they want and when it isn't have to listen to their shrill ear splitting complaining that I didn't read their mind well enough. Why the business are pushing IT to develop one way or another is an entirely different conversation.
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With the gradual move to ssh keys over passwords, thanks to EC2 and general cloud platforms, and since the new place doesn't have LDAP auth in all places, what kind of good internal escrow / consolidation / management programs are there these days for enterprise systems for things like ansible, jenkins, and rundeck to use? Right now it's all manual, half ssh keys and half passwords with no centralized management or administration and that's just not acceptable. But I've never worked in a place that hadn't already "solved" this basic issue so my info is pretty outdated.
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psydude posted:Being a general infrastructure linux sysadmin is awful in terms of daily grind and lack of people knowing or giving a gently caress about what you do. At my previous gig, all I basically did was troubleshoot dozens of bash scripts that interacted with 4ESS and 5 ESS Phone switches. Not exactly the same, but hella fun
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MJBuddy posted:Personally I like working with non-technical people. Granted if non technical people weren't so bad at understanding technical process I wouldn't have a job. As a fellow "people person", gently caress non-technical people telling me what to do (Requests are fine, but people demanding things be done and refusing to see why things cannot be done that way are hell). 95% of the people I help are nice and will let me explain things. That other 5% is the reason I'll never go into first line support ever again. Edit: For example, my old manager just tried to tell one of the third line support guys to connect to a clients site to take over a terminal, connect it up to a different clients data (isn't possible, that client isn't cloud, so they'd need a local copy) all the while we'd have to explain to said client that they can't use the system they paid money for because we want to use that system to troubleshoot a different client. The reason for this? "It'd be easier than getting you a terminal to troubleshoot on right?". Ughhhhhhh. dogstile fucked around with this message at 16:57 on Jan 13, 2015 |
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