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I was sick the week or so we spent on the civil war in 11th grade US history so that's my excuse for why I apparently know none of the vitally important civil war factoids.
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Jan 16, 2015 23:24
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The civil war is played out, but on the other hand, the Philippine-American War is just Vietnam but 60 years earlier.A Winner is Jew posted:Not only that but it broke the stranglehold that the south had on congress which lead to things like an income tax to pay for a shitload more rail lines, strengthened the federal government's power especially when it came to international trade and a larger military, and solidified that an industrial economy was vastly superior to agrarian economy which is why we were equal with England and Germany during the industrial revolution afterwards It also brought about universal public elementary education in the South during Reconstruction.
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Jan 16, 2015 23:24
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Shear Modulus posted:I was sick the week or so we spent on the civil war in 11th grade US history so that's my excuse for why I apparently know none of the vitally important civil war factoids. My 11'th grade class just watched Glory... which was Mathew Broderick's best role and a bad rear end movie you should watch if you haven't.
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Jan 16, 2015 23:25
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Effectronica posted:It also brought about universal public elementary education in the South during Reconstruction. Yeah well we are sooo close to getting rid of that Yankee yoke placed on our necks for these 150 years.
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Jan 16, 2015 23:25
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How many of you civil war nerds were history majors
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Jan 16, 2015 23:25
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*raises paw*
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Jan 16, 2015 23:26
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Effectronica posted:The civil war is played out, but on the other hand, the Philippine-American War is just Vietnam but 60 years earlier. Only with no news cameras so no one gave a poo poo when US troops ethnically cleansed entire villages. Shear Modulus posted:How many of you civil war nerds were history majors Math, but history was my favorite subject.
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Jan 16, 2015 23:27
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The Warszawa posted:man i am so glad my family came to this country after the civil war because i cannot imagine actually having to give a poo poo about this. sometimes there's interesting stuff like finding out your hillbilly ancestors actively worked to sabotage the confederacy and hid deserters all of a sudden one's own innate mistrust bordering on outright hostility toward authority makes a lot more sense
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Jan 16, 2015 23:29
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comes along bort posted:sometimes there's interesting stuff like finding out your hillbilly ancestors actively worked to sabotage the confederacy and hid deserters to be fair i have similar hillbilly family, but the cool thing there was finding out one fought in the battle of the bulge and was in the 101st airbone.
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Jan 16, 2015 23:30
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A Winner is Jew posted:Only with no news cameras so Also, not quite so eloquent: John Roberts, 13th Minnesota All Volunteer Infantry posted:We enlisted to fight the Spaniards, to fight them for two years if necessary, but we did not enlist to fight niggers in the Philippines, and if we had been asked to do so I, for one, would have refused. "Albert Robinson, correspondent for the [i posted:New York Post[/i]"]There are towns here which have been 'captured' again and again, each time with a 'glorious victory.' Today it is unsafe for an American to go even ten miles from the city of Manila.
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Jan 16, 2015 23:31
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Effectronica posted:The civil war is played out, but on the other hand, the Philippine-American War is just Vietnam but 60 years earlier. Not really. If we didn't invade the Phillipines, the Japs would. And we all know that a distant master in Washington is far, far better than a close master in Tokyo, Beijing, Moscow, Brussels, or Berlin. Effectronica posted:Also, not quite so eloquent: The pacification of Cuba was a success of the Spanish-American War.
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Jan 16, 2015 23:33
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A Winner is Jew posted:Only with no news cameras so no one gave a poo poo when US troops ethnically cleansed entire villages. smedley butler gave a poo poo 
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Jan 16, 2015 23:33
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Shear Modulus posted:How many of you civil war nerds were history majors yo
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Jan 16, 2015 23:34
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i've been listening to npr and let me just say i suddenly get all the stereotypes about it jesus christ these people are insufferable. do i really have to listen to these people self medicate via radio show just so i can get to some weird rear end stories about weird rear end people?
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Jan 16, 2015 23:34
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My Imaginary GF posted:Not really. If we didn't invade the Phillipines, the Japs would. uh it didn't stop them in 41 in 1899 the japanese were too busy mean mugging russia and creepily groping korea to go that far from home
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Jan 16, 2015 23:34
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i've got a masters in history but i know v. little about the american civil war because it was unimportant and also lame
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Jan 16, 2015 23:35
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comes along bort posted:smedley butler gave a poo poo not really, he was on the dole for landlords in Central America who were pissed at US troops came in and forced them to pay their national governments excise tarriffs
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Jan 16, 2015 23:35
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also the philippine-american war was necessary; the phone system weren't gonna pay for itself
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Jan 16, 2015 23:36
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Popular Thug Drink posted:i had three relatives who fought for the north and one for the south. every one of them died of disease
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Jan 16, 2015 23:36
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R. Mute posted:i've been listening to npr and let me just say i suddenly get all the stereotypes about it If you want weird rear end stories about weird rear end people start listening to The Dollop podcast They just did a short episode recounting the Killdozer 
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Jan 16, 2015 23:37
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pangstrom posted:Was the disease a broken heart? no, im pretty sure they all poo poo themselves to death except for one guy who had a gangrenous arm
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Jan 16, 2015 23:38
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Popular Thug Drink posted:no, im pretty sure they all poo poo themselves to death The thing which McClellan was boss at preventing, and for which everyone seems to poo poo upon him for. Civil War was gonna be a war of attrition; McClellan realized this, and took measures to regiment camp health and hygine. 2/3rds of casualties in the Civil War were from preventable causes. Sure, McClellan could have taken more audacious movements in the Peninsular Campaign: to do so would have resulted in the standing army coming down with several outbreaks of infectious disease and would have further reduced combat efficiency. Don't poo poo on a man who understands public health and the need for properly organized latrines. Popular Thug Drink posted:uh it didn't stop them in 41 Stopped them from 1899 to 1941. And Philipines aren't more than a day's sail from home islands for the Japanese policymakers of this period. My Imaginary GF fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Jan 16, 2015 |
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Jan 16, 2015 23:42
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My Imaginary GF posted:The thing which McClellan was boss at preventing, and for which everyone seems to poo poo upon him for. if you want an acw general that understood the benefits of a developed sewer system, ben "the beast" butler is your man
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Jan 16, 2015 23:43
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Effectronica posted:Also, not quite so eloquent: Mark Twain doesn't count since he's the only person in competition with Franklin and greatest American ever.
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Jan 16, 2015 23:43
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My Imaginary GF posted:The thing which McClellan was boss at preventing, and for which everyone seems to poo poo upon him for. yeah thats why lincoln appointed him sanitary commish Raskolnikov38 posted:if you want an acw general that understood the benefits of a developed sewer system, ben "the beast" butler is your man chamber pots with his face painted in the bottom were popular household items in new orleans after the war lmao boner confessor fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Jan 16, 2015 |
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Jan 16, 2015 23:44
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Raskolnikov38 posted:if you want an acw general that understood the benefits of a developed sewer system, ben "the beast" butler is your man Butler, McClellan, Logan--they understood the need for sanitary encampments. And yet we believe southern revisionists and northern copperheads that McClellan was poo poo because he failed to win a decisive battle. R. Mute, take heed, for Belgium failed to learn this lesson from the ACW: Decisive battles don't matter in wars of attrition.
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Jan 16, 2015 23:47
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The best thing to come out of the civil war is the 14 th amendment which is like crazy enlightened.
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Jan 16, 2015 23:49
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migf goin full ben horne itt
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Jan 16, 2015 23:50
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Tons of Supreme Court activity is just evading the plain meaning of the 14 th amendment
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Jan 16, 2015 23:50
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I mean look at this jazz how could it be any more clear All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
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Jan 16, 2015 23:52
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There are 19 paramilitary Muslim training facilities in the US. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPIGEpgg3h8&t=90s
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Jan 16, 2015 23:58
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14th amendment is baller as gently caress
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Jan 17, 2015 00:03
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Joementum posted:There are 19 paramilitary Muslim training facilities in the US. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maLIXQLxvvA
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Jan 17, 2015 00:06
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My Imaginary GF posted:R. Mute, take heed, for Belgium failed to learn this lesson from the ACW: Decisive battles don't matter in wars of attrition.
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Jan 17, 2015 00:06
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The Warszawa posted:migf goin full ben horne itt Who's that? quote:The richest man in Twin Peaks, Horne is an archetypical 1980s cutthroat businessman, whose greatest desire in life appears to be the acquisition of wealth. As the series progressed, he was revealed, like many of the show's other characters, to have a hidden side; beneath his ruthless, greedy facade, he is a lonely, deeply depressed man who is disappointed with how his family and his life turned out. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Horne What do I have to be disappointed about? You don't aim to innovate education in Africa without rolling with disappointment and banality of evil. For instance, had a laptop stolen with year's worth of project data on it from E. Af. airport; $23k of capital expenditure and $80k worth of vencap in the pipes gone. C'est la vie, at least I don't stick loving bananas in a transax day-to-day. R. Mute posted:weird, i'm assuming you're talking about wwi? belgium pretty much spent 90% of the war sitting behind the flooded yser, refusing to join offensives and occasionally having a bit of a rough and tumble with german sappers, so they obviously weren't looking for a decisive battle. And how many Africans died for Belgium, while white troops manned the machine guns in the rear to prevent their retreat? My Imaginary GF fucked around with this message at 00:12 on Jan 17, 2015 |
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Jan 17, 2015 00:07
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Joementum posted:There are 19 paramilitary Muslim training facilities in the US. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AylFqdxRMwE
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Jan 17, 2015 00:08
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The Warszawa posted:migf goin full ben horne itt quick, someone get him a sandwich
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Jan 17, 2015 00:09
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comes along bort posted:quick, someone get him a sandwich melt that brie and then top it in a thick layer of grease. Chicago style.
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Jan 17, 2015 00:11
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joeburz posted:Jefferson had a bangmaid while not being a reclusive artist, doesn't sound like being on the spectrum at all. I will still laugh at the word "bangmaid" when I am 95.
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Jan 17, 2015 00:12
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paging randler also, migf i think you answered your own question 
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