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I almost feel like this just straight up reduces diversity in modern. Meet your new overlords, UR Twin and BG Midrange. I hope you like Pestermites and Exarchs, because you're gonna see a lot of them in the coming months.
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Count Bleck posted:Well poo poo. Back to the Gifts Package.
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Cernunnos posted:Also RIP Dig Through Time in Modern. Never even had a chance. My poor foils. 
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Looks like we made it! BBE still banned.
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Cernunnos posted:Back to the Gifts Package. Back to U/W I guess. Which means I'm dropping about fifty on Elesh Norn and Iona. Great.
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Sampatrick posted:I almost feel like this just straight up reduces diversity in modern. Meet your new overlords, UR Twin and BG Midrange. I hope you like Pestermites and Exarchs, because you're gonna see a lot of them in the coming months. But they'll just ban that if it gets too oppressive. They'll ban everything until we're playing block constructed.
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suicidesteve posted:My poor foils. They're still there for Legacy but the demand won't be as heavy. How long until CHalice of the Void finds its way back to the like $6 it was before people went crazy with them.
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I'm not surprised about the Modern bans, but GGT coming off is an interesting choice. I guess they're a bit too gun-shy about Jund becoming the de-facto Best Deck (TM). Banning Cruise in Legacy, on the other hand, REALLY surprises me. It's good but not nearly as overpowered as in Modern and the meta was already evolving to account for it. I hope it comes back eventually.
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can someone c+p the changes because i can't get wotc's site to load
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I really didn't think they'd ban Pod. Well, there you are.
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gang sines posted:can someone c+p the changes because i can't get wotc's site to load Announcement Date: January 19, 2015 Effective Date: January 23, 2015 Magic Online Effective Date: January 28, 2015 Modern: Dig Through Time, Treasure Cruise, and Birthing Pod are banned. Golgari Grave-Troll is no longer banned. Legacy: Treasure Cruise is banned. Worldgorger Dragon is no longer banned. Vintage: Treasure Cruise is restricted. Gifts Ungiven is no longer restricted. The complete list of all banned and restricted cards, by format, is here. Next B&R Announcement: March 23, 2015
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PhyrexianLibrarian posted:Banning Cruise in Legacy, on the other hand, REALLY surprises me. It's good but not nearly as overpowered as in Modern and the meta was already evolving to account for it. I hope it comes back eventually. They should have banned Brainstorm, it's the actual Ancestral Recall that needs to be banned in Legacy.
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Didn't actually think they'd have the brass to ban Pod, and yeah, Twin's gonna run rampant now. I'm not looking forward to that. I also feel bad for anybody who bought foil Treasure Cruises.
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Could somebody explain what the powerful interaction between World Gorger and Animate Dead is? Going infinite?
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PhyrexianLibrarian posted:I'm not surprised about the Modern bans, but GGT coming off is an interesting choice. I guess they're a bit too gun-shy about Jund becoming the de-facto Best Deck (TM). Going to agree with that, especially the GGT bit, I was surprised to see it unbanned. gang sines posted:can someone c+p the changes because i can't get wotc's site to load Modern banned Pod and Dig Through Time, and Cruise, unbanned Golgari Grave-Troll Legacy banned Cruise, unbanned Worldgorger Dragon Vintage restricted Cruise, unrestricted Gifts.
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Cernunnos posted:They're still there for Legacy but the demand won't be as heavy. I'm pretty sure $6 was too cheap to begin with. There are so many decks that play it as a 4-of in legacy and vintage because it just wrecks most other decks. I'm surprised nobody's mentioned Worldgorger.
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ty didn't think legacy needed any bans but w/e i wasn't playin them anyway e: also lol whenever someone says brainstorm needs to be banned
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Eddie Whitson posted:But they'll just ban that if it gets too oppressive. They'll ban everything until we're playing block constructed. This kinda stuff is just killing Modern for me. Why would they ban DTT along with Treasure Cruise? Why wouldn't they give us Ancestral Visions to replace the Cruise banning? Like it's ridiculous that we can't ever have good non-combo blue decks in Modern. It's total crap. That's without getting into how they should've unbanned Bloodbraid Elf rather than banning Birthing Pod.
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THEY SAVED MORDERN Y'ALL. Great format or greatest format?
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Sampatrick posted:This kinda stuff is just killing Modern for me. Why would they ban DTT along with Treasure Cruise? Why wouldn't they give us Ancestral Visions to replace the Cruise banning? Like it's ridiculous that we can't ever have good non-combo blue decks in Modern. It's total crap. modern's design philosophy is that it's not legacy so along with no fast combo there's also no good blue decks
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Cynic Jester posted:Could somebody explain what the powerful interaction between World Gorger and Animate Dead is? Going infinite? Yeah, you can exile your board indefinitely, each time tapping out and generate infinite mana this way.
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gang sines posted:can someone c+p the changes because i can't get wotc's site to load Pod, Cruise, Dig banned & Grave Troll unbanned in modern. Cruise banned and Worldgorger Dragon unbanned in legacy. Cruise restricted and Gifts unrestricted in vintage.
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Jan 19, 2015 17:10
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And down goes Pod, right to 6 bucks, from 10. Rest in peace flexible and fun deck.
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Count Bleck posted:Back to U/W I guess. Let me know if you find a good list, I already have U Tron built as well as an Iona and Norn. Also, I can't wait to beat Dredge players at their own game with Modern Mill and less Delver to worry about  Still a little bummed to see DTT go though, even if it just replaced Treasure Cruise in Delver I don't think it would be as oppressive, and the only deck that was running it regularly was Scapeshift. Oh well, at least I only spent $5 on the three I have.
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Why is Dig banned? Why loving ban a deck altogether in Modern? It's like Wizards is intentionally killing off the format by making it stale as gently caress. Why not unban cards to check the powerlevel of other decks instead? This is like League of Legends tier of balancing where the only solution is to nerf everything.
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gang sines posted:modern's design philosophy is that it's not legacy so along with no fast combo there's also no good blue decks The only appropriate response is to pull an Overextended and make a Postmodern format.
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Look at me Im the dci
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Never in 100 million years did I think they would ban pod, or unban GGT. This is going to be /interesting/. I'm a teensy bit annoyed that Cruise is somehow too broken for Legacy and Vintage but totally okay in Pauper, but they have Gush the same way, too... Monsieur Mango posted:Why is Dig banned? Why loving ban a deck altogether in Modern? It's like Wizards is intentionally killing off the format by making it stale as gently caress. Why not unban cards to check the powerlevel of other decks instead? This is like League of Legends tier of balancing where the only solution is to nerf everything. The rationale is in the article. Maybe you should shake off some of that salt before it gets in your eyes.
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Sometimes I think WotC just pulls this poo poo out of their asses. "Delver is a majority of the format, we're banning the things that make it work." "Birthing Pod is also the majority, we're banning that too." "Dig Through Time works completely differently as a card generating engine than Treasure Cruise but even though it costs more overall in terms of Delve AND actual mana cost it's still a replacement for Cruise. We're banning it." Edit: I'm a little salty because I've had a playset of Pods for ages and was planning on building the deck for almost two years. Now I'll never know the majesty. Oh and I'll have to hear one of the guys at my Modern store go off.
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For those demanding answers, they actually have a nice paragraph or two explaining their justifications on the site.quote:Modern
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Eddie Whitson posted:They should have banned Brainstorm, it's the actual Ancestral Recall that needs to be banned in Legacy. This wasn't true before Delvecestral Recall, it's still not true after. Cynic Jester posted:Could somebody explain what the powerful interaction between World Gorger and Animate Dead is? Going infinite? It's all very dumb, but basically you Animate Dead the dragon, he comes into play RFGs everything including Animate Dead, Dragon dies, you get your stuff back, tap your lands, Animate Dead Dragon, repeat until you have some arbitrary amount of mana then Animate Dead Oona and mill them or Kaervek's Torch or whatever.
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Funny how everyone was certain Jeskai Ascendency would be first on the chopping block a few months back. That deck was better w/ Cruise but could it still dominate, or is Splinter Twin just more consistent? Could it be a more versatile midrange-y sort of combo deck?
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Dig was my spec card, so I'm kind of sad they banned it in Modern. (I even traded a foil Cruise for a foil Dig straight up with a guy. I guess I got the winning end of that one.) But, I guess I can take solace in the fact that I have a year and a half to dump my Digs at standard block prices before they rotate out. Regarding Birthing Pod, I don't really play much Modern (my only deck being a cheap janky burn deck), but I'm kind of surprised by the ban. Not that I'll shed any tears for it. In my absolutest mentality, any Phyrexian costed cards should be banned, period. Yes, this includes Gitaxian Probe and Dismember.
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LordSaturn posted:The rationale is in the article. Maybe you should shake off some of that salt before it gets in your eyes. Been looking into making a modern deck since I was beginning to feel bad at the 6 or so modern players in my store, but I'll just stick to EDH and limited then. Bravo, Wizards! Modern sure is interesting.
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suicidesteve posted:It's all very dumb, but basically you Animate Dead the dragon, he comes into play RFGs everything including Animate Dead, Dragon dies, you get your stuff back, tap your lands, Animate Dead Dragon, repeat until you have some arbitrary amount of mana then Animate Dead Oona and mill them or Kaervek's Torch or whatever. That's adorable and I hope it wins a Legacy tournament somewhere.
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The best laid plans of mice and neckbeards.
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HAHA. Bye bye pod!
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The DailyMTG site is still being hammered as I write this, even more than rumor season! Birthing Pod is an interesting card, and although I've never built the deck for Modern, I'm sad to see it go. Toolbox style decks are my favorite, but it's clear that's not how they want Magic to be played.
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