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Shovel Knight isn't really all that hard until you get to new game +. Then it's really hard. My one complaint about Shovel Knight's levels is that they're a little long, but that's about it. Each one is probably twice as large as a typical Mega Man level.
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i mostly beat shovel knight while on bumpy bus rides feeling car sick so any one can do it if they belief.
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Jan 19, 2015 18:45
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If you don't like Shovel Knight then please come to my house so I can whisper "gently caress you" into your ear.
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Jan 19, 2015 18:47
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Gammatron 64 posted:Shovel Knight isn't really all that hard until you get to new game +. Then it's really hard. I beat Tower 2 on NG+ and I felt like a strong gamer. Then I found out there are people that break checkpoints and don't use relics in NG+ and I felt weak again. Shovel Knight can get real drat hard if you want it to.
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Jan 19, 2015 18:48
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RyokoTK posted:I beat Tower 2 on NG+ and I felt like a strong gamer. Then I found out there are people that break checkpoints and don't use relics in NG+ and I felt weak again. Shovel Knight absolutely can get hard but that's a good thing about it. It's designed with self-customizable difficulty. You can break it over your knee with relics or you can do shovel-only runs and break checkpoints and the game is designed with both in mind. You'll absolutely suffer more if you're trying to avoid using relics or potions but "the game is harder when I'm making it harder" is kind of a weird complaint.
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Jan 19, 2015 18:52
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Sade posted:People who like a thing are more willing to forgive its flaws and are more likely to defend it, yes. Conversely, people who do not like the same thing are more likely to ignore its good parts and criticize its flaws. True, but truly enjoying something also means being willing to critically analyze it and understand and internalize its flaws. Example: I love my Wii U, but if you're looking for a system with lots of FPS games on it then give it a pass because it's sorely lacking in that area. I know there's a ton of hyperbole in that regard in Games and it's kind of annoying when someone wants to discuss the reasons why they're not enjoying a game and a ton of people pile on them with "no, that game is actually perfect, you're a moron," rather than actually thinking about why that person might have a reason to complain. That's not to say that every criticism is valid, but many are.
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Jan 19, 2015 19:13
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virtualboyCOLOR posted:Shovel Knight is great. Everyone go buy it. I'm waiting for the vita version
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Jan 19, 2015 19:21
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Are all of the improvements they're advertising going to be available on WiiU? The game feels at home on Nintendo and I'd very much enjoy additional content.
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Jan 19, 2015 19:26
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Austrian mook posted:Are all of the improvements they're advertising going to be available on WiiU? The game feels at home on Nintendo and I'd very much enjoy additional content. Shovel Knight has a number of patches coming for new characters/content so you can assume most upgrades will be included. Kratos however is going to be Playstation-exclusive.
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Jan 19, 2015 19:29
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ImpAtom posted:Shovel Knight has a number of patches coming for new characters/content so you can assume most upgrades will be included.
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Jan 19, 2015 19:31
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Quest For Glory II posted:Can't wait to play Spawn in the Xbox version Can I make a "I sure hope they add Link to the Nintendo versions" joke without it being too stale?
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Jan 19, 2015 20:10
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Shovel Knight for Smash godamnit
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Jan 19, 2015 20:17
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Macaluso posted:Shovel Knight for Smash godamnit I really hope Nintendo is open to the idea, because I'm sure the creators would give them a blank license to do whatever they want with him if it means they can get their guy in Smash. Really easy to imagine a moveset, and just make his special moves different relics. The only issue could be that Shovel Knight is supposed to come out later this year on other consoles as well, although that didn't stop them before with other 3rd Party characters.
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Jan 19, 2015 20:21
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Shovel Knight isn't iconic enough to be a 3rd party guest in SSB, the character basically has to be legendary to get in.
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Jan 19, 2015 20:22
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:I'm waiting for the vita version While I respect that you want to buy it lol at getting the vita port instead of the PC, Wii U, or 3DS
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Jan 19, 2015 20:24
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Supercar Gautier posted:Shovel Knight isn't iconic enough to be a 3rd party guest in SSB, the character basically has to be legendary to get in. shang tsung for smash
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Jan 19, 2015 20:26
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Ultigonio posted:Sonic Lost World's first level sucks and is one of my least favorite levels in the game. Desert Ruins Zone 1 is the only good level in the game.
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Jan 19, 2015 20:30
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PoshAlligator posted:Why does it suck that they haven't awkwardly mapped motion controls to buttons? I don't know, I think you should be able to play any of the announced games just fine with the gamepad. The waggle spin in Galaxy 2 could easily be a button, and Metroid Prime would totally work with traditional FPS controls. Uprezzing the games might be a bit more work, but they're charging $20 regularly for these old games so why not? It's not the worst thing ever, and I'm still going to buy them but it's another half baked idea from Nintendo.
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Jan 19, 2015 20:34
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Stop fighting waggle spin it's awesome
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Jan 19, 2015 20:37
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Galaxy 2 also involves continual use of the pointer. You can't map that to a button. And the Prime Trilogy would need to be outright reprogrammed to have dual-analog controls instead of a pointer. If they were doing that, these games wouldn't be coming out one per week at $10/$20. The only game announced so far that could be minimally tweaked to work on the Gamepad would be DKCR, with shaking mapped to a button press.
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Jan 19, 2015 20:38
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Supercar Gautier posted:Galaxy 2 also involves continual use of the pointer. You can't map that to a button. Nintendo managed this for the entire Wii U and DS libraries with a touchscreen? Pointing a controller up and at a screen was a feature that was confirmed as kludgey and awful with Duck Hunt for the NES and triple omega confirmed with the disaster that was Kinect.
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Jan 19, 2015 20:39
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You couldn't use the stylus for SMG2 because that would mean taking one hand off the buttons.
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Jan 19, 2015 20:41
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Supercar Gautier posted:Galaxy 2 also involves continual use of the pointer. You can't map that to a button. Mapping a waggle to a button press isn't as simple as it sounds. I wouldn't get my hopes up for these being anything other than the base, wii games with almost no differences.
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Jan 19, 2015 20:42
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The pointer controls are fine you nubs buy Galaxy 2
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Jan 19, 2015 20:42
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Austrian mook posted:Mapping a waggle to a button press isn't as simple as it sounds. I wouldn't get my hopes up for these being anything other than the base, wii games with almost no differences. Nintendo is fuckin us again with yet more half-baked ideas from the lunatic pedophile Japanese.
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Jan 19, 2015 20:43
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virtualboyCOLOR posted:While I respect that you want to buy it lol at getting the vita port instead of the PC, Wii U, or 3DS You mean lol at buying the crossbuy PS3/PS4/Vita version which is adding more features than the other ones and only needs to be bought once to be played across all devices
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Jan 19, 2015 20:43
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Probably more like lol that you own a Vita.
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Jan 19, 2015 20:48
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PoshAlligator posted:Desert Ruins Zone 1 is the only good level in the game. Austrian mook posted:Mapping a waggle to a button press isn't as simple as it sounds.
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Jan 19, 2015 20:49
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raditts posted:Probably more like lol that you own a Vita. We're all posting in the Wii U thread though so we should all be used to spending lots of money on something nobody owns
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Jan 19, 2015 20:49
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:You mean lol at buying the crossbuy PS3/PS4/Vita version which is adding more features than the other ones and only needs to be bought once to be played across all devices I thought they were just adding in the Kratos fight, what else are they including?
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Jan 19, 2015 21:06
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The pointer in Galaxy is great and not at all intrusive. If you don't like it that's fine but if you're saying it's clunky you're just raging against motion controls in general and could pick like a million better targets. Also mapping it to a stick or the touchscreen would make the game literally unplayable.
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Jan 19, 2015 21:07
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I've got 242 stars twice over in Galaxy 2 and I think in all that, I've maybe done bad spins due to accidental waggles like... twice. The remote is fine.
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Jan 19, 2015 21:08
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:You mean lol at buying the crossbuy PS3/PS4/Vita version which is adding more features than the other ones and only needs to be bought once to be played across all devices That would require me owning 3 bad consoles instead of good ones.
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Jan 19, 2015 21:09
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The Machine posted:I don't know, I think you should be able to play any of the announced games just fine with the gamepad. The waggle spin in Galaxy 2 could easily be a button, and Metroid Prime would totally work with traditional FPS controls. Uprezzing the games might be a bit more work, but they're charging $20 regularly for these old games so why not? Well, you're not wrong I guess. It would have been cool. But I'm not sure I'd have expected them to add it either.
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Jan 19, 2015 21:17
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The Machine posted:and Metroid Prime would totally work with traditional FPS controls. Yeah it'd work great, but I don't think they're going to add mouse+keyboard support. Best settle for the closest thing with the wiimote.
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Jan 19, 2015 21:21
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zolthorg posted:Nintendo managed this for the entire Wii U and DS libraries with a touchscreen? I spent a ton of time playing FPSes, On-Rails shooters, and Metroid Prime Trilogy on the Wii, and can confirm that pointer controls are excellent for those types of games.
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Jan 19, 2015 21:26
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Umbrella Chronicles was loving sick as hell, speaking of rail shooters.
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Jan 19, 2015 21:28
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Do we know if Splatoon will support Wiimote+ and Nunchuk? Gyro controls are great and all, but I need the pointer.
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Jan 19, 2015 21:34
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I just registered like all my wii games on club nintendo and drat son I got a bunch of points. I got Mario Kart and Kirby's Dreamland 3 for free. Wonder what they're gonna have up tomorrow. poo poo is sweet.
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The Machine posted:I don't know, I think you should be able to play any of the announced games just fine with the gamepad. The waggle spin in Galaxy 2 could easily be a button, and Metroid Prime would totally work with traditional FPS controls. Uprezzing the games might be a bit more work, but they're charging $20 regularly for these old games so why not? There are plenty of half-baked ideas that you could criticize Nintendo for - like, say, why the hell they didn't just make VC games cross-buy - but making out of print/hard to find Wii games available for digital download at a budget price isn't one of them, IMO. And why the hell would you want to play the Prime games with dual analog instead of pointer controls? (I'm assuming that's what you mean by "traditional FPS controls," because I don't see how you could hook up a kb/mouse to your Wii U.)
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