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Lote posted:So the Democrats pass the Old Maid to the Elephant and the game ends because the Donkey is no longer holding any cards. The Elephant is holding a variety of non-paired cards, and he is at a significant disadvantage to win the game. Look at that elephant's expression. He knows his hand is horrible.
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I think the Elephant might be wondering why that Romney card that he's discarded twice keeps reappearing.
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Jan 19, 2015 21:31
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Alter Ego posted:Why is Kasich on that list? Is he even being considered a serious candidate? Lindsey Graham strikes me as honest enough with himself to know he can't win. I think he just hates enough people in the race, with Paul at the top of the list, to mount a national campaign based on telling them to get hosed. It's actually rather noble in a spiteful way.
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Jan 19, 2015 21:35
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Could Lindsey just be floating the balloon to run as a signpost that he has southern attack-dog bona fides? I'm no fan of his, but he is good at appearing via satellite and leveling wild accusations. Which is a good bit of the VP job during a campaign. Because really, there is no sense in his running otherwise.
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Jan 19, 2015 21:56
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I have seen a Ben Carson sticker in the wild. It's in Charlottesville, Va. If I spot it again I'll take a picture.
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Jan 19, 2015 23:00
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Hmm. The democrat has a single card to play called "Old Maid." Hmmmmmm. Already starting to beat the misogyny drum, huh GOP?
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Jan 19, 2015 23:04
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VanSandman posted:I have seen a Ben Carson sticker in the wild. It's in Charlottesville, Va. If I spot it again I'll take a picture. Saw one too--in a Western MA supermarket parking lot. I couldn't believe it. It was like seeing a unicorn, only more depressing.
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Jan 19, 2015 23:06
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Chokes McGee posted:Hmm. The democrat has a single card to play called "Old Maid." Hmmmmmm. I read that less as misogyny and more as "lol Hillary is old." My assumption was that the right was going to put up somebody like Cruz and be all "hey look at this young dude! Young people should vote for Young Guy because lol look how old Hillary is." Granted I also read it as "all the candidates suck in one way or another" which kind of makes sense. The GOP has to deal with a whole deck full of twits that are all doing a crabs in a bucket kind of thing with no clear winner while the Democrats seem to have the option of Hillary or, you know, Hillary who a lot of people just plain don't like. After the suspected head injury I figured the GOP would refuse to shut the gently caress up about Hillary's age and the suggestions that she's brain damaged and/or senile.
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Jan 19, 2015 23:32
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The reason Graham is running is that he and McCain hate the idea of Rand getting a platform to spout his isolationism (or whatever Rand's foreign policy is today) unchallenged. Lindsey just wants to make sure that there's someone on stage who can interrupt and shout, "No, we need to bomb them! Bomb them all!"
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Jan 19, 2015 23:55
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I knew Graham was the bomb Iran/Benghazi candidate but it didn't occur to me he would be McCain's proxy.
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Jan 20, 2015 00:14
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Chokes McGee posted:Hmm. The democrat has a single card to play called "Old Maid." Hmmmmmm. When did they stop? 
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:I knew Graham was the bomb Iran/Benghazi candidate but it didn't occur to me he would be McCain's proxy. McCain encouraged him to put his name forward and has said into every camera he can find (which is a lot, it's McCain after all) that he's endorsing Graham for 2016.
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Jan 20, 2015 00:15
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Chokes McGee posted:Hmm. The democrat has a single card to play called "Old Maid." Hmmmmmm. But Lindsey Graham's a republican?
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Jan 20, 2015 01:07
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Do Walker and Paul fit into the category of "acceptably conservative" or is that category limited to Cruz, Carson and Perry? edit: referring to the primary season and not the general
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Jan 20, 2015 01:11
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Walker got the biggest cheer at CPAC last year. They love the guy because he took on the liberals and the unions in a purple state and won. He tickles that spite nerve at the center of the conservative id.
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Jan 20, 2015 01:15
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Alter Ego posted:Saw one too--in a Western MA supermarket parking lot. I couldn't believe it. It was like seeing a unicorn, only more depressing. In 2012 I saw a truck with a Herman Cain sticker in Southern California. That was like seeing a black swan .
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Jan 20, 2015 01:42
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As a reminder that OC could get conservative as gently caress outside of UCI, when I was around Tustin in mid-June 2012 I saw a bumper sticker on a Kiwanis vehicle saying "1.20.13 THE END OF A MISTAKE". Obama still won the vote in Tustin, though.
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Jan 20, 2015 01:46
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:I knew Graham was the bomb Iran/Benghazi candidate but it didn't occur to me he would be McCain's proxy. It's not a proxy, it's a tag team. Anyone who doesn't dream of wars in the sand and bombing Iran must be crushed.
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Jan 20, 2015 01:47
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The X-man cometh posted:But Lindsey Graham's a republican? Oh, well played sir. Well played indeed.
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Jan 20, 2015 02:21
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radical meme posted:Do Walker and Paul fit into the category of "acceptably conservative" or is that category limited to Cruz, Carson and Perry? Nobody is ever conservative enough.
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Jan 20, 2015 02:22
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GreyjoyBastard posted:An Illinois politician without mob ties? Surely you jest. Our mobsters hold elected office. Seriously, they do. There's a few no-poo poo mobsters in the legislature, and when you get to the local level, welll....don't run for office in a few towns. I assume its similar in Jersey.
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Jan 20, 2015 03:25
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:As a reminder that OC could get conservative as gently caress outside of UCI, when I was around Tustin in mid-June 2012 I saw a bumper sticker on a Kiwanis vehicle saying "1.20.13 THE END OF A MISTAKE". in late 2004 my roomate bought bumper-sticker paper and printed out long, bumper-spanning stickers that read: TO ALL KERRY VOTERS: AAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA he made multiple because they'd last about 24 hours apiece
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Jan 20, 2015 03:45
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My probably non-controversial opinion is that the GOP will flirt with the wingnuts for a while and then nominate Jeb Bush, just like they did with Mitt Romney last time around. He's the establishment Republican who's next in line and hasn't blown up his career yet.
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Jan 20, 2015 04:04
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Also Bush will make large uncomfortable inroads among hispanics. Good economy splits the community.
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Jan 20, 2015 04:06
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Nonsense posted:Also Bush will make large uncomfortable inroads among hispanics. Good economy splits the community. Will he when the rest of the party is foaming at the mouth over the unholy sin of Cuban Relations and those goddamn illegals!? Can Bush even make it through the primary without at least singing if not torching his crossover appeal potential?
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Jan 20, 2015 04:20
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Gyges posted:Will he when the rest of the party is foaming at the mouth over the unholy sin of Cuban Relations and those goddamn illegals!? Can Bush even make it through the primary without at least singing if not torching his crossover appeal potential? To be fair, Hillary has a defacto powerful position within the community by default and no Republican will shake that, but if any of them could, it would be him. 'Fair minded' folks care what the Prez candidate has to say. If you're already mad some podunk congressman said a thing, you already made up your mind. Nonsense fucked around with this message at 04:24 on Jan 20, 2015 |
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Jan 20, 2015 04:22
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In my opinion, Republicans will try to get Chris Christie (gov of New Jersey) to accept the nomination, and if he doesn't go for it, push for Jeb Bush. I see Paul Ryan as a non-factor in this election.
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Jan 20, 2015 04:30
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Nonsense posted:To be fair, Hillary has a defacto powerful position within the community by default and no Republican will shake that, but if any of them could, it would be him. 'Fair minded' folks care what the Prez candidate has to say. If you're already mad some podunk congressman said a thing, you already made up your mind. I agree that Jeb is their best bet of all their choices, but I also think that Hispanics are much more solidly partisan than they were a decade ago.
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Jan 20, 2015 04:32
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If it was just some podunk congressman saying things the Republicans would probably be set. The problem is that it's going to be everyone on the stage except, perhaps, Jeb and Rubio. Almost all of the party says or supports insane things if you're looking to do some Latino outreach.
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Nonsense posted:Also Bush will make large uncomfortable inroads among hispanics. Good economy splits the community. It's not a particularly good economy for Latinos though. The Latino unemployment rate was still at 9.1% in 2013. That is a real drop from the height of the crisis and the numbers for '14 were probably better, but it's still fairly grim, especially when you consider how many latinos who are employed have terrible exploitative jobs. It's possible things will have dramatically improved by this time next year, but I wouldn't count on it. Duckbox fucked around with this message at 04:37 on Jan 20, 2015 |
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Jan 20, 2015 04:34
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My bet is they'll ignore minority voters and shoot for young white males with Rand Paul
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Jan 20, 2015 04:36
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My money is on quintupling down on old straight white "christian" males.
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Jan 20, 2015 05:11
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When's the last time Romney has dipped under 15% support even in a crowded field? His base according to polling is the most solid and most consistent out of anyone. Old people love him and donors love him. His only threat is Huckabee, imo. Paul's a wild card, I have no idea. I think his comparably low ceiling of possible support among the GOP will hurt him.
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Jan 20, 2015 05:13
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Watching Huckabee on Daily Show and holy poo poo, when the hell did he get this heavy? I remember him being at worst a little hefty.
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Jan 20, 2015 05:22
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TARDISman posted:Watching Huckabee on Daily Show and holy poo poo, when the hell did he get this heavy? I remember him being at worst a little hefty. As soon as the right flipped out over Michelle Obama suggesting that maybe we shouldn't have a double cheeseburger and a shake for every meal he no longer needed his Dr. Phil style healthy living guide.
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Tao Jones posted:My probably non-controversial opinion is that the GOP will flirt with the wingnuts for a while and then nominate Jeb Bush, just like they did with Mitt Romney last time around. He's the establishment Republican who's next in line and hasn't blown up his career yet. Except this time, Mitt is running too. As is Christie. We're normally accustomed to a bunch of wingnuts splitting the vote, but with Bush, Christie, and Romney all in, it seems likely the moderate vote might get split as well.
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Jan 20, 2015 05:41
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Ammat The Ankh posted:Except this time, Mitt is running too. If Mitt, Jeb, and Christie all run, then Rand could be an interesting darkhorse by shoring up the libertarian, tea party, and other fringe non-establishment Republicans. No one else has a chance.
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Cigar Aficionado posted:If Mitt, Jeb, and Christie all run, then Rand could be an interesting darkhorse by shoring up the libertarian, tea party, and other fringe non-establishment Republicans. But if they all run then it's going to fragment the base something fierce and we may very well see another last minute candidate. The GOP is massively fragmented right now and I guarantee it's going to hurt them.
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Jan 20, 2015 07:33
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Ron Paul campaigned for the presidency in 2012 but the 'REVOLution' was a failure.. underdogs never win! I bet Rand Paul is a more conventional version of the same thing.
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Ammat The Ankh posted:Except this time, Mitt is running too. I doubt people will rally around Mitt Romney when it comes to actually making a sober decision about who the best candidate is. He's not a very likable guy to begin with and he also has the stench of failure around him from the last election. Maybe you let a guy like that keep being a Senator, maybe a Cabinet post, but you don't give him another shot at the executive, especially if income inequality continues to become part of the national conversation. All the Clinton people would have to say is "they're running the out-of-touch billionaire 47% guy again" and play that Mother Jones clip over and over. Christie's an interesting choice, but I don't think Republican voters have forgiven him for turning to Obama during Hurricane Sandy yet. It might happen, maybe, but I think people outside of NJ would need more time to get to know him.
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