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etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Bilirubin posted:

hahaha that is such a university story

Also SFU is the ugliest campus I've been to, like fog and 1000% humidity + concrete everywhere and you are surprised moss grows everywhere? Really?

They took the OCP headquarters design and applied it to a whole uni campus

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blah_blah
Apr 15, 2006

SFU is even uglier inside than outside.

Terebus
Feb 17, 2007

Pillbug

blah_blah posted:

SFU is even uglier inside than outside.

Their newest building is "okay". It has wood in it and windows. It's not all concrete. AQ is the most depressing place thought, it feels like you're always walking to a torture room when you're walking through there.

Lain Iwakura
Aug 5, 2004

The body exists only to verify one's own existence.

Taco Defender

Terebus posted:

Their newest building is "okay". It has wood in it and windows. It's not all concrete. AQ is the most depressing place thought, it feels like you're always walking to a torture room when you're walking through there.

It also has this weird mechanical smell to it.

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line
I'm pretty sure I have some kind of architectural stockholm syndrome with SFU now.

I know it's terrible but I still like having a beer on the patio at the highland

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

I just associate it with Stargate and many other fine examples of Vancouver-scify.

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


Cultural Imperial posted:

SFU is good for two reasons. Last chance university for everyone who grew up in Burnaby and best downhill MTB bus shuttle circuit in the world.

lol never thought of that

There is that climbing wall built into the side of one of the buildings that was kind of cool too

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

Bilirubin posted:

lol never thought of that

There is that climbing wall built into the side of one of the buildings that was kind of cool too

I don't think it's there any more, I looked for it a year or so ago and couldn't find it

blah_blah
Apr 15, 2006

JawKnee posted:

I'm pretty sure I have some kind of architectural stockholm syndrome with SFU now.

I know it's terrible but I still like having a beer on the patio at the highland

The patio is nice, the pub itself is astonishingly bad. How it's possible to run a loss year after year as basically the only place on campus serving alcohol is something I don't think I'll ever be able to understand: http://www.macleans.ca/economy/business/more-money-for-their-beer/

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
The last time I ever drank at the mountain shadow, the bar manager was "djing". He had the music turned up so loving loud I had to go ask him to turn it the gently caress down. There was no one else in the loving bar except myself and my friends.

gently caress that place. Sadly it's the only place in vancouver with kilkenny on tap except for those loving UDF exiles in gastown.

Lexicon
Jul 29, 2003

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

blah_blah posted:

The patio is nice, the pub itself is astonishingly bad. How it's possible to run a loss year after year as basically the only place on campus serving alcohol is something I don't think I'll ever be able to understand: http://www.macleans.ca/economy/business/more-money-for-their-beer/

Exact same story at Koerners at UBC. If you can't run a business under those sort of conditions...

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


OK so I have to ask this question: UBC is usually considered this garden campus, and it is quite lovely I admit. But the rats, holy poo poo, they have overrun the place! So is SFU rat free? Because I can see that being a selling point

Lexicon posted:

Exact same story at Koerners at UBC. If you can't run a business under those sort of conditions...

That's where I first noticed the serious rat problem!

(also RIP Koerners)

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

Cultural Imperial posted:

The last time I ever drank at the mountain shadow, the bar manager was "djing". He had the music turned up so loving loud I had to go ask him to turn it the gently caress down. There was no one else in the loving bar except myself and my friends.

gently caress that place. Sadly it's the only place in vancouver with kilkenny on tap except for those loving UDF exiles in gastown.

The Lennox has Kilkenny on tap

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
I remember going back to the campus pub at U of C after I graduated and was back at the university on unrelated matters. After five fruitless minutes of waiting to be served a beer, at the bar, during an off time, I remembered that I wasn't a broke student any more and could just go drink at a bar that wasn't poo poo.

As for McGill's pub, I could never figure out when the pricks were open. They were certainly open some time, because I lived a block away and they made a fuckload of noise, but I'll be damned if they were ever open when I fancied a pint and wouldn't have preferred going anywhere else. Can anyone enlighten me as to what its schedule actually was? EDIT: According to the website, 11AM to 12AM or 2AM depending on the day. Why the gently caress was the door locked all the time?

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

Lexicon posted:

Exact same story at Koerners at UBC. If you can't run a business under those sort of conditions...

koerners is back, and serves good beer now. but I won't forget the bar I climbed over the back fence of to escape with my beer

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


PT6A posted:

I remember going back to the campus pub at U of C after I graduated and was back at the university on unrelated matters. After five fruitless minutes of waiting to be served a beer, at the bar, during an off time, I remembered that I wasn't a broke student any more and could just go drink at a bar that wasn't poo poo.

As for McGill's pub, I could never figure out when the pricks were open. They were certainly open some time, because I lived a block away and they made a fuckload of noise, but I'll be damned if they were ever open when I fancied a pint and wouldn't have preferred going anywhere else. Can anyone enlighten me as to what its schedule actually was?

Which one? Thompson House was always open when I needed it

blah_blah
Apr 15, 2006

Lexicon posted:

Exact same story at Koerners at UBC. If you can't run a business under those sort of conditions...

Yeah Koerner's used to be awful but was redone after being closed for a long time (afaik it had something to do with serving undergrads one too many times) and now they actually have good food and good beer. They are still overpriced and probably lose money but it's miles better than it used to be.

Cultural Imperial posted:

The last time I ever drank at the mountain shadow, the bar manager was "djing". He had the music turned up so loving loud I had to go ask him to turn it the gently caress down. There was no one else in the loving bar except myself and my friends.

gently caress that place. Sadly it's the only place in vancouver with kilkenny on tap except for those loving UDF exiles in gastown.

The Mountain Shadow is awful but I have some fond memories of grabbing afternoon beers there and playing cards with a friend who lived literally across the street from it. Their clientele was awful though, so anytime that it wasn't completely empty it was a terrible place to be.

blah_blah fucked around with this message at 06:58 on Jan 20, 2015

Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum

Bilirubin posted:

OK so I have to ask this question: UBC is usually considered this garden campus, and it is quite lovely I admit. But the rats, holy poo poo, they have overrun the place! So is SFU rat free? Because I can see that being a selling point


That's where I first noticed the serious rat problem!

(also RIP Koerners)

Unfortunately SFU started selling high-end condos on campus as well, so it's just as overrun these days. :v:

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Bilirubin posted:

Which one? Thompson House was always open when I needed it

Which was that? The only one I ever knew of was Gerts, which was in the basement of the Shatner building, and never seemed to be open.

Deep Dish Fuckfest
Sep 6, 2006

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Thomson House is for grad students/faculty only, if I recall correctly. As for Gerts, I've never been since there were way better options around, but from what I've heard the experience varied from "sort of ok" to "maintenance staff are going there to get wasted and start fights".

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
you go to mcgill and you go drink at gerts #smh

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


Yeah I dunno never went to Gerts. Also only went to Peel Pub once to watch a game and ironically enjoy pizzaghetti.

There were a lot of better options in Montreal. I lived on the near east side so L'Aimere a Boire was a favourite

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Cultural Imperial posted:

you go to mcgill and you go drink at gerts #smh

No, that's the point, I never did! Probably happier for it, too.

Never went to the Peel Pub either. My haunts were McKibbins, Stogies, La Casa del Habano, and Dieu du Ciel!.

To be honest, there's always a better option than the campus pub, if you have the time to get off campus. If you want a lunch beer and a quick bite to eat between classes, it really depends on how close your campus is to anything else. Not a problem in Montreal, but a massive problem in Calgary.

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



Y'all are gonna love this tyee story about Vancouverites turning mansios into collective housing:

quote:

As Leung and Paulsson offer a tour of the sprawling premises, a third roommate, Phoenix Muranetz, joins us in their self-styled meditation room, one of numerous common areas. Her last collective living experiment was in another Vancouver mansion with 11 other adults.

A former architecture student, Muranetz left that path over the feeling that any design that pushed the boundaries of shared living and communal space was dismissed as "too out-of-the-box."

"They're not really changing the models of how they're building," she laments. "People don't want to live in apartments that are isolated."

This person can't be real.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
My best friend is a paramedic and he says that one of the most notorious frequent flyers is this mansion in Shaughnessy which has been converted into a rooming house inhabited exclusive my aging homosexual baby boomers who can't stop doing drugs. It's like a conveyor belt of heroin overdoses.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Cultural Imperial posted:

My best friend is a paramedic and he says that one of the most notorious frequent flyers is this mansion in Shaughnessy which has been converted into a rooming house inhabited exclusive my aging homosexual baby boomers who can't stop doing drugs. It's like a conveyor belt of heroin overdoses.

I appreciate you adding another dimension of bigotry to your routine, it was getting a bit stale.

Pray tell, were they Chinese homosexuals?

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Have rents gone up in Canada? They've basically been pretty flat (growing at 2/3% a year) in Australia.

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



Jumpingmanjim posted:

Have rents gone up in Canada? They've basically been pretty flat (growing at 2/3% a year) in Australia.

Rents and rent increases vary wildly city-by-city in both countries.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe

Jumpingmanjim posted:

Have rents gone up in Canada? They've basically been pretty flat (growing at 2/3% a year) in Australia.

This is what passes for rental statistics in canada. A government organization that's more interested in making money securitizing mortgages.

Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum

eXXon posted:

Y'all are gonna love this tyee story about Vancouverites turning mansios into collective housing:


This person can't be real.

This is exactly the kind of thing I was talking about yesterday. It's hilarious that we're now lauding the same poo poo we villainized for nearly a century, that just because the excesses of capitalism are driving this sort of desperation makes it something to be desired or respected. :allears:

peter banana
Sep 2, 2008

Feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.
Is the issue with this that it doesn't really solve a housing issue? Because the most offensive thing to me about McMansions is the amount and extent of conspicuous consumption. No one needs a house that large for 3-5 people or a single family. The fact that some people are subverting this model is good to me. Maybe I don't see a problem with living communally though.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you

etalian posted:

It owns when people spend massive amounts of money, on for the marriage to end in a divorce 1 or 2 years later.

My wife's boss is my favourite case of this. Her fiance is a big shot REALTOR or something along those lines. Totally loaded, spends like there is no tomorrow. Oh and he's Italian too, so of course it's a big wedding.

They had sunk over 50K into the wedding before she called the whole thing off. I was looking forward to going to this monstrosity too.

Saltin
Aug 20, 2003
Don't touch
I`ve been to Italian and Greek weddings where the bride and groom would easily make 40-50k in cash wedding gifts. They always stupidly treat it as a break even proposition, but my wife and I did it sensibly and pocketed enough to put a downpayment on a house.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you

Saltin posted:

I`ve been to Italian and Greek weddings where the bride and groom would easily make 40-50k in cash wedding gifts. They always stupidly treat it as a break even proposition, but my wife and I did it sensibly and pocketed enough to put a downpayment on a house.

Oh yeah for sure, they definitely were going to make mad money.

Except she called the wedding off lol.

peter banana
Sep 2, 2008

Feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.
who was asking about rents?

BlogTO posted:

Many Toronto renters spend half pay cheques on rent
http://www.blogto.com/city/2015/01/many_toronto_renters_spend_half_of_pay_cheques_on_rent/

quote:

According to the report, the renters' statistic applies to non-one per cent (actually non 60%) of workers, while those in the upper bracket are bleeding cash at similar volumes to mortgages and other home owning fees that people like myself can't even begin to comprehend. The heart of the matter is that if you're only paying half your income on housing, the landlord hasn't left you without heat for weeks at a time, and you don't have bed bugs, congratulations, you're doing okay in Toronto. For now.

Ugh. So done with this city. So done with this economy. So done with this country.

Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum

peter banana posted:

Ugh. So done with this city. So done with this economy. So done with this country.

:hfive:

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



http://www.td.com/document/PDF/economics/special/GTA_Housing.pdf

Lotsa good charts and graphs here. Chart 14 shows single detached and condo prices separately, courtesy of the CREA. Even they can't bullshit their way out of the fact that condo prices are nearly flat.

Unfortunately, it doesn't really show the distribution of housing costs as a fraction of income. The affordability index is kind of similar but not the same.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
Leaving was the best thing I ever did. gently caress this country.

Lain Iwakura
Aug 5, 2004

The body exists only to verify one's own existence.

Taco Defender
Nobody should ever pay more than 10-15% of their yearly intake on rent. It is a rule I have stuck to for half a decade now.

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MickeyFinn
May 8, 2007
Biggie Smalls and Junior Mafia some mark ass bitches

peter banana posted:

who was asking about rents?

http://www.blogto.com/city/2015/01/many_toronto_renters_spend_half_of_pay_cheques_on_rent/


Ugh. So done with this city. So done with this economy. So done with this country.

Los Angeles is the same way. Most expensive city in the United States for both renters and owners. But now it seems it might not be the most expensive in North America.


OSI bean dip posted:

Nobody should ever pay more than 10-15% of their yearly intake on rent. It is a rule I have stuck to for half a decade now.

Truf, although now I can't move without a huge wage increase to keep the streak alive.

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