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Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

Post 9-11 User posted:

That is what I was saying? If not for this thread and the politics thread i would not be confused.

As I recall, which may be wrong, 100% of late term abortions were a medical necessity.
Do the Republicans ever address the fact that doctors have a system of ethics themselves that covers things like this?

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Storysmith
Dec 31, 2006

FREE SPEECH
http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/france-begins-jailing-people-ironic-comments

quote:

A 16-year-old high school student was taken into police custody on Thursday and indicted for “defending terrorism,” national broadcaster France 3 reports.

His alleged crime? He posted on Facebook a cartoon “representing a person holding the magazine Charlie Hebdo, being hit by bullets, and accompanied by an ‘ironic’ comment,” France 3 states.

If that sounds very similar to that Charlie Hebdo cover, it's because it literally is:


So uh, watch out with the edits if you'll be travelling to France anytime soon, I guess.

Guilty Spork
Feb 26, 2011

Thunder rolled. It rolled a six.

Post 9-11 User posted:

Am I being a carehard moron by pointing out that this never ever happens except by medical necessity?

Despite the insane beliefs of some, no woman carries a child to term but decides to kill it the day before it would be born.
I can't tell how much is ignorance and how much is lying, but pro-lifers really don't seem to understand that the average abortion happens when the embryo looks like a tiny fish thing, which lacks shock value. They also keep pushing totally debunked nonsense about abortions leading to depression and breast cancer, can't grasp that Planned Parenthood does other things and helps poor people, etc.

Pander
Oct 9, 2007

Fear is the glue that holds society together. It's what makes people suppress their worst impulses. Fear is power.

And at the end of fear, oblivion.



Guilty Spork posted:

I can't tell how much is ignorance and how much is lying, but pro-lifers really don't seem to understand that the average abortion happens when the embryo looks like a tiny fish thing, which lacks shock value. They also keep pushing totally debunked nonsense about abortions leading to depression and breast cancer, can't grasp that Planned Parenthood does other things and helps poor people, etc.

That's not how abortion works. I've read educated literature that says abortion happens when Obama grabs a fetus out of the uterus and beats it to death with a baseball bat in a dumpster behind planned parenthood. VERY educated literature.

InequalityGodzilla
May 31, 2012

beepsandboops posted:

The thing I appreciate about Branco is the layers of poo poo he manages to fit into each of his terrible cartoons.
At least Branco stopped drawing Al Sharpton with a fat gut. He finally seems to have cottoned onto the fact that Sharpton has not been overweight in like a decade.

Pander posted:

That's not how abortion works. I've read educated literature that says abortion happens when Obama grabs a fetus out of the uterus and beats it to death with a baseball bat in a dumpster behind planned parenthood. VERY educated literature.
You were misinformed. What actually happens is Obama plucks the fetus out of the woman's womb by hand before offering it as tribute to his moon god. The baseball bat and the dumpster were merely him being thorough and making sure there were no survivors.

Mr. Belpit
Nov 11, 2008

Guilty Spork posted:

... can't grasp that Planned Parenthood does other things and helps poor people, etc.

There's a sadly large overlap between hardcore pro-lifers and people who implicitly think the above is a bad thing.

Pththya-lyi
Nov 8, 2009

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2020

Yes, the successful ranch owner who owns at least one helicopter and puts up his son's family in a mansion and kept a classic car rusting in a barn for decades can't afford government bribes because

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
Well you see bribing the government is clearly something that should be legalised because China does it and they'll take us over because of the pinko liberal muslim in charge making our troops gay and

Duckbox
Sep 7, 2007

WarpedNaba posted:

What's the skinny on Hillary anyway? I mean, she's hella better than any litebread the Republicans can put up, but is she the best the Democrats have?

It depends what you mean by "best," really. She's the best known and the best funded and despite decades of relentless right-wing attacks she (and Bill) still enjoys fairly high approval ratings with the general public. Add all these up and throw in a dose of first woman ever appeal (about 55% of voters are women) and you have a candidate who is amazingly attractive to the pragmatist, moderate, and establishment wings of the Democratic party. There's a significant portion of the Democratic party that would rather win for the wrong reasons than lose for the right ones and these people tend to like the Clintons. There's just one problem: 2008. Six years ago, we learned that the party establishment isn't quite as good at picking the winners as we'd been led to believe. Clinton's campaign was a debacle with poor message control, internal dysfunctions that made it into the press, and real failures to articulate a coherent vision for America's future that made her vulnerable to a strong insurgent candidate running from her left. The fact that the Obama administration really hasn't been very different from what we would have expected from her just underscores how much that loss represented a failure of messaging rather than actual policy. In many ways she's much stronger than she was six years ago. Her time as Secretary of State has helped her get out of her husband's shadow and proven that she has real leadership and foreign policy qualifications and the receding of the Iraq War in popular consciousness means that her hawkish tendencies are somewhat less of a liability than they used to be, but other things have changed as well. The dark side of her husband's economic legacy (NAFTA, financial deregulation, welfare "reform") looks a lot worse now than it did then (remember the recession started in '07, but the true extent of the crisis didn't become clear until Lehman collapsed in September of '08, long after the primaries) and the Clintons' long history of holding lucrative board memberships, charging extravagant speaking fees, and schmoozing with billionaire donors could badly undermine her credibility as an economic populist. Ultimately though, it all depends on who else is running and not just on the Democratic side of things.

One interesting thing to consider is that Hillary Clinton's status as "the Democrat who can win" seems a little silly if the Republican field is full of losers. In a world where assclowns like Bush, Paul, and Christie can dominate the Republican field despite their horrible baggage, where Romney can rise from the dead, we may not have to worry too much about the Republicans this time. By all appearances, it looks like we're in for another crowded primary Republican shitshow, but this time there's not a "sensible moderate" in sight to rise above it the way McCain and Romney did and, in any case, neither of them turned out be quite as threatening as they first appeared. Combine that with demographic shifts that continue to work to Democrat's advantages (despite what the angry centrist pundits tell us, the party really can alienate old white men and still win, at least at the presidential level) and you have a situation where Democrats actually have the opportunity to stand on principle for a change. This opens up real possibilities of another insurgency against Clinton this time maybe even from an actual leftist. The question is though, who's in position to be that insurgent? Bernie Sanders has a lot of great things to say, but he's apparently too old and socialist for our media to take seriously, Elizabeth Warren says she's not running, and most of the Democratic governors are either still fairly unknown (O'Malley) or not particularly leftist (Webb) or both, so although the opportunity to challenge Clinton is there, I'm not sure if there's a candidate. We've got a year left before the primaries start for real, so stay tuned, and try to remember at this time in 2007, many people were already rushing to crown Hillary while a certain junior senator from Illinois was barely a blip on most pundits' radar.

tldr ask in a year

Johntalouette
Oct 30, 2013

a Dune cartoon

Calico Heart
Mar 22, 2012

"wich the worst part was what troll face did to sonic's corpse after words wich was rape it. at that point i looked away"




a thing happened, but i have nothing to really say about it, so i'll just draw it happening in a slightly different way

Johntalouette posted:


a Dune cartoon

watch in amazement as I combine one of the only pop culture staples i am aware of with my dislike of a group of people. Truly political cartooning is the art of champions

Calico Heart fucked around with this message at 04:45 on Jan 20, 2015

The ideology eater
Oct 20, 2010

IT'S GARBAGE DAY AT WENDY'S FUCK YEAH WE EATIN GOOD TONIGHT

Calico Heart posted:

a thing happened, but i have nothing to really say about it, so i'll just draw it happening in a slightly different way

Or maybe they are drawing it in a comical exaggeration in order to highlight the absurdity of it?

beepsandboops
Jan 28, 2014

Post 9-11 User posted:

That is what I was saying? If not for this thread and the politics thread i would not be confused.

As I recall, which may be wrong, 100% of late term abortions were a medical necessity.
If you define "medical necessity" as "the mother and/or child will die if the pregnancy goes to term," then that's not quite true. But I think in most abortions done late, it's because of really serious medical issues (like severe genetic defects) that weren't caught until later on.

There's a documentary called After Tiller that looks at the few clinics in the US that do third trimester abortions. It's sad, but eye-opening.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Duckbag posted:

most of the Democratic governors are either still fairly unknown (O'Malley) o

All I know about O'Malley is that he was the inspiration for Carcetti on The Wire, and that unfairly makes me terrified of ever seeing him become President.

bitey
Jul 13, 2003

Tell the truth and run.

Exclamation Marx posted:



titled "No Virgins for You"

I like Enos in general; this seems pretty good. It's similar to others but includes the FORBIDDEN CARICATURE for extra balls points.

Skellybones
May 31, 2011




Fun Shoe

Duckbag posted:

It depends what you mean by "best," really. She's the best known and the best funded and despite decades of relentless right-wing attacks she (and Bill) still enjoys fairly high approval ratings with the general public. Add all these up and throw in a dose of first woman ever appeal (about 55% of voters are women) and you have a candidate who is amazingly attractive to the pragmatist, moderate, and establishment wings of the Democratic party. There's a significant portion of the Democratic party that would rather win for the wrong reasons than lose for the right ones and these people tend to like the Clintons. There's just one problem: 2008. Six years ago, we learned that the party establishment isn't quite as good at picking the winners as we'd been led to believe. Clinton's campaign was a debacle with poor message control, internal dysfunctions that made it into the press, and real failures to articulate a coherent vision for America's future that made her vulnerable to a strong insurgent candidate running from her left. The fact that the Obama administration really hasn't been very different from what we would have expected from her just underscores how much that loss represented a failure of messaging rather than actual policy. In many ways she's much stronger than she was six years ago. Her time as Secretary of State has helped her get out of her husband's shadow and proven that she has real leadership and foreign policy qualifications and the receding of the Iraq War in popular consciousness means that her hawkish tendencies are somewhat less of a liability than they used to be, but other things have changed as well. The dark side of her husband's economic legacy (NAFTA, financial deregulation, welfare "reform") looks a lot worse now than it did then (remember the recession started in '07, but the true extent of the crisis didn't become clear until Lehman collapsed in September of '08, long after the primaries) and the Clintons' long history of holding lucrative board memberships, charging extravagant speaking fees, and schmoozing with billionaire donors could badly undermine her credibility as an economic populist. Ultimately though, it all depends on who else is running and not just on the Democratic side of things.

One interesting thing to consider is that Hillary Clinton's status as "the Democrat who can win" seems a little silly if the Republican field is full of losers. In a world where assclowns like Bush, Paul, and Christie can dominate the Republican field despite their horrible baggage, where Romney can rise from the dead, we may not have to worry too much about the Republicans this time. By all appearances, it looks like we're in for another crowded primary Republican shitshow, but this time there's not a "sensible moderate" in sight to rise above it the way McCain and Romney did and, in any case, neither of them turned out be quite as threatening as they first appeared. Combine that with demographic shifts that continue to work to Democrat's advantages (despite what the angry centrist pundits tell us, the party really can alienate old white men and still win, at least at the presidential level) and you have a situation where Democrats actually have the opportunity to stand on principle for a change. This opens up real possibilities of another insurgency against Clinton this time maybe even from an actual leftist. The question is though, who's in position to be that insurgent? Bernie Sanders has a lot of great things to say, but he's apparently too old and socialist for our media to take seriously, Elizabeth Warren says she's not running, and most of the Democratic governors are either still fairly unknown (O'Malley) or not particularly leftist (Webb) or both, so although the opportunity to challenge Clinton is there, I'm not sure if there's a candidate. We've got a year left before the primaries start for real, so stay tuned, and try to remember at this time in 2007, many people were already rushing to crown Hillary while a certain junior senator from Illinois was barely a blip on most pundits' radar.

tldr ask in a year

What about Benghazi?

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Johntalouette posted:


a Dune cartoon

Duckbox
Sep 7, 2007

There aren't any Christians in Star Trek either. :c00lbert:

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fun trivia fact: King Abdullah II bin al-Hussein of Jordan, when he was a prince, cameo'd in an episode of Star Trek Voyager because he was a big fan. :eng101:

Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

Jerusalem posted:

All I know about O'Malley is that he was the inspiration for Carcetti on The Wire, and that unfairly makes me terrified of ever seeing him become President.

I know it's dumb to make predictions two years in advance, but here goes anyway: O'Malley has zero chance of making it to the presidency. He has no Obama-style charisma and his record as governor is ... shaky (his Lt. Gov. ran to succeed him last year and lost to an unknown Republican).

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

WarpedNaba posted:

Well you see bribing the government is clearly something that should be legalised because China does it and they'll take us over because of the pinko liberal muslim in charge making our troops gay and

Maybe we can come up with a whole regulated system for paying government bribes. You'd get forms to fill based on your income and capital that would tell you how big a bribe you need to pay.

Apple Pie Hubbub
Feb 14, 2012

Take that, you greedy jerk!

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

We were promised squirrels, Tinsley :argh:

Mordiceius
Nov 10, 2007

If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!
What's hilarious to me is that Tinsley gets a bug up his rear end when he feels personally offended by poo poo.

Nativity In Black
Oct 24, 2012

If you're gonna have roads, you're gonna have roadkill.

Storysmith posted:

FREE SPEECH
http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/france-begins-jailing-people-ironic-comments


If that sounds very similar to that Charlie Hebdo cover, it's because it literally is:


So uh, watch out with the edits if you'll be travelling to France anytime soon, I guess.

This is hilariously crass and while I don't know a lot about Charlie Hebdo, it seems like a satire magazine worth its salt would be laughing along.

Munin
Nov 14, 2004


Nativity In Black posted:

This is hilariously crass and while I don't know a lot about Charlie Hebdo, it seems like a satire magazine worth its salt would be laughing along.

Most likely yes; said magazine had no say in that arrest though.

I Killed GBS
Jun 2, 2011

by Lowtax

Nativity In Black posted:

This is hilariously crass and while I don't know a lot about Charlie Hebdo, it seems like a satire magazine worth its salt would be laughing along.

Europe is a p. hosed up place sometimes, hth

Neodoomium
Jun 20, 2001

You are now hearing this
noise in your head.



The University of Michigan responds to Tinsley:

"Quit drinking and go to bed"

Unfortunately that came from our old Athletic Director, so...

Telarra
Oct 9, 2012


This is in the funnies.


This is in the funnies.

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

Moddington posted:

This is in the funnies.


This is in the funnies.



Never not relevant when it comes to Tinsley.

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
I'm guessing that the actual response will be more amusing than this dumb cartoon. And it won't even be attempting comedy!

Mx.
Dec 16, 2006

I'm a great fan! When I watch TV I'm always saying "That's political correctness gone mad!"
Why thankyew!


It's been a little while since I posted some Australian toons, so it's back to the Canberra Times:

David Pope:



idk something about the constant carrying-on about pokie machine limits. The ACT assembly let people put $50 notes in pokies now? Whatever. Nobody knows/cares who the parliamentarians in the territory are anyway, we're too busy caring about federal politics



Harking back to the last lot I posted, 'cept Tony backflipped on that now. Jellyfish Tony is horrifying though




And their other cartoonist Pat Campbell's back from vacation!



Already mentioned the kerfuffle around the medicare rebate cuts and what bulk-billing is last time. Which Tony Abbott now backed away from already.



ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

America and the West are in the driver's seat when it comes to polluting our planet, while the third world can do nothing but come along for the ride. A Partially Unintentionally Environmentalist Cartoon.

Kegluneq
Feb 18, 2011

Mr President, the physical reality of Prime Minister Corbyn is beyond your range of apprehension. If you'll just put on these PINKOVISION glasses...


Fun fact: the figure in that painting ("The Scream of Nature") is not actually screaming :eng101: Hopefully the Republicans actually will be stunned into paralysis by a primal cry of emotion they cannot comprehend.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Mr. Belpit posted:

They've had no trouble calling Obama an out-of-touch elitist since the '08 elections so...

The difference being they can pretend to not be out of touch elitists. It's a lot harder for them to get away with calling the Clintons nepotists and dynastic monarchs when their party's last two Presidents were father and son and a third member of the same family is planning to run against Hillary.

Deep State of Mind
Jul 30, 2006

"It was a busy day. I do not remember it all. In the morning, I thought I had lost my wallet. Then we went swimming and either overthrew a government or started a pro-American radio station. I can't really remember."
Fun Shoe

Kegluneq posted:

Fun fact: the figure in that painting ("The Scream of Nature") is not actually screaming :eng101: Hopefully the Republicans actually will be stunned into paralysis by a primal cry of emotion they cannot comprehend.

Is it applying a facial scrub?

Dimebags Brain
Feb 18, 2013





Jedit posted:

The difference being they can pretend to not be out of touch elitists. It's a lot harder for them to get away with calling the Clintons nepotists and dynastic monarchs when their party's last two Presidents were father and son and a third member of the same family is planning to run against Hillary.

You think that will stop them? Have you not been paying attention?

Kegluneq
Feb 18, 2011

Mr President, the physical reality of Prime Minister Corbyn is beyond your range of apprehension. If you'll just put on these PINKOVISION glasses...

Bloodnose posted:

Is it applying a facial scrub?

Possibly? More likely to be a O of shock. The scream being heard by the front figure is confirmed by the artist though.

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Somfin
Oct 25, 2010

In my🦚 experience🛠️ the big things🌑 don't teach you anything🤷‍♀️.

Nap Ghost

Woah hey that looks just like one of Tinsley's actual comics, I'm now confused. I wonder if the duck will help me understand what's going on without tacking on a pedophile joke in the funny pages.

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