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Mans posted:You can't not expand on this. Well, shoot, where do I even begin? It's been a cluster gently caress all over, but I'll try to summarize. 1. Paradox never added Jews until the Sons of Abraham expansion/patch with the reasoning that they didn't want to add a religion with no mechanics. That's fair, but see West Africans, Soumenskos, most Heresies, etc. This meant folks who should have been Jewish were Tengri instead. It was worse by Old Gods. 2. Defenders of Paradox (?) stated such wonderful things as Jews not having any impact on this period/weren't important enough, that they wouldn't add to the game, or that it's not possible to add them in mechanically without things going off the rails (ha). 3. Some people said other areas needed more work to be historical because there wasn't enough work done on the ERE, HRE, etc etc. Only after that could Jews be added. I'm pretty sure there were worse things said, but that's the short of it.
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bdurso posted:For HoI 4 can we please have Nazi cows? http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2015/01/07/aggressive-nazi-bred-cows-caused-havoc-on-a-modern-farm/ I realize this post is a few days old, but rather than that, we should have auroch events in CK2 when the real ones still existed. Gigantic wild hyperagressive bulls dominating the countryside of Germany and Poland (meant as geographical, not political, terms) must have event potential.
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# ? Jan 19, 2015 01:16 |
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YF-23 posted:I won't be convinced on this until I see what V3 localisation looks like. Some of the V2 inventions have some of the most text I've seen in paradox games. This is true. Especially the economists. They aren't even consistent. On the one hand, you have economists whose descriptions are...rather vague. On the other hand... Oh, by the way: http://lparchive.org/Victoria-II-Heart-of-Darkness/ This is a thing now.
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# ? Jan 19, 2015 01:24 |
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I never bother to read that fluff anyways.
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# ? Jan 19, 2015 01:39 |
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Strudel Man posted:India is legitimately a waste of CPU cycles, though, so. I enjoyed my one India game. I might do it again as I fell short, barely of getting the "What Schism!?" Cheevo. Though, to be sure I only played that one game when the DLC launched.
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# ? Jan 19, 2015 01:47 |
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Kavak posted:What was the last Paradox game that didn't trigger fucktons of grog rage, Crusader Kings II? Oh, I just remembered something. Some people were angry that Muhammad's character portrait in CK2 was replaced with calligraphy of his name to avoid offending Muslims.
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# ? Jan 19, 2015 03:14 |
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Pakled posted:Oh, I just remembered something. Some people were angry that Muhammad's character portrait in CK2 was replaced with calligraphy of his name to avoid offending Muslims. I still think this was legitimately cool to be honest.
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# ? Jan 19, 2015 03:29 |
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Yeah, i thought it was pretty classy.
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# ? Jan 19, 2015 05:05 |
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How did the US get B-52s and Super Sabres in my HOI3 game
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# ? Jan 19, 2015 18:48 |
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Mantis42 posted:I never bother to read that fluff anyways. You don't get the prestige point if you don't read it.
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# ? Jan 19, 2015 18:52 |
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Top Hats Monthly posted:How did the US get B-52s and Super Sabres in my HOI3 game Is it like 1955? In DH the top of the air tree is like F4 Phantoms and Stratofortresses. I guess HOI 3 is the same?
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# ? Jan 19, 2015 19:00 |
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I think the thing with India is that it is rather self contained. Unless you're an Indian nation or a nEmpire/Kingdom based in Persia or Russia, you're not going to end up interacting with them.
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# ? Jan 19, 2015 19:07 |
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SkySteak posted:I think the thing with India is that it is rather self contained. Unless you're an Indian nation or a nEmpire/Kingdom based in Persia or Russia, you're not going to end up interacting with them. I go back and forth on India. The world of CK2 wasn't really one world but a set of overlapping worlds. So how do you handle that? Build the whole world but keep any one part from being able to interact with all other parts? Or build separate games? Or just focus on one world and leave the others out?
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# ? Jan 19, 2015 19:56 |
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Dibujante posted:I go back and forth on India. The world of CK2 wasn't really one world but a set of overlapping worlds. So how do you handle that? Build the whole world but keep any one part from being able to interact with all other parts? Or build separate games? Or just focus on one world and leave the others out? The correct answer is to build separate games. India and Europe/North Africa only indirectly interact with each other, so there's no good reason to have them in the same game. The game systems built for European feudalism feel out of place in India and it would be better as its own game, while its inclusion doesn't make the rest of the world more interesting to play. Same goes for China or any other region in the time period. There is no good reason to spread yourself thin like that instead of focusing on making the key part of your game as fun as possible.
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# ? Jan 20, 2015 02:04 |
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CKIII Reaction Predictions: Paradox is DUMBING DOWN the game! (a given) Why is paradox charging us more money for the same game and they're cutting content! This is an affront to my consumer rights! Don't buy paradox! Boycott CKIII until they add back India! (buys the game anyway) India was an integral part of my fun, to have paradox rip it out of their sequel tore something from deep within me. My ability to feel joy. (we can only hope) Admittedly I'd be down for it if they split the franchise up into Crusader Kings and, I don't know, Crusader Mings or something where the far east is the focus. But if you thought the Abbasids were OP, guess who'd be the new blob on the block?
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# ? Jan 20, 2015 02:19 |
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:The correct answer is to build separate games. India and Europe/North Africa only indirectly interact with each other, so there's no good reason to have them in the same game. The game systems built for European feudalism feel out of place in India and it would be better as its own game, while its inclusion doesn't make the rest of the world more interesting to play. Same goes for China or any other region in the time period. There is no good reason to spread yourself thin like that instead of focusing on making the key part of your game as fun as possible. Well, you end up with a cascade of europe->middle east->persia->india->indochina->china. So, 5 games? Although then you have the steppe which gets to interact with all of them. 6? And West Africa interacts with north africa and arabia. 7? e: also, would play the poo poo out of a crusader mings game, especially if you could play as a secret society or a scholar-official dynasty. Dibujante fucked around with this message at 03:20 on Jan 20, 2015 |
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Europe and West Africa east to Afghanistan, Near East and Central Asia to India, China and its surroundings? I wish there were paradox-like games set in ancient and medieval China, it's overlooked like none other.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:The correct answer is to build separate games. India and Europe/North Africa only indirectly interact with each other, so there's no good reason to have them in the same game. The game systems built for European feudalism feel out of place in India and it would be better as its own game, while its inclusion doesn't make the rest of the world more interesting to play. Same goes for China or any other region in the time period. There is no good reason to spread yourself thin like that instead of focusing on making the key part of your game as fun as possible. I've said this before, but the feudal model actually suits India better than a lot- probably most- of the other places in the game. Fragmentation and the collapse of centralised power were the order of the day. I mean, if you're going to be anal about it, the system as it stands is a more-or-less reasonable approximation of high mediaeval France and the further you get from 12th century Paris the more hosed up things become.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:The correct answer is to build separate games. India and Europe/North Africa only indirectly interact with each other, so there's no good reason to have them in the same game. The game systems built for European feudalism feel out of place in India and it would be better as its own game, while its inclusion doesn't make the rest of the world more interesting to play. Same goes for China or any other region in the time period. There is no good reason to spread yourself thin like that instead of focusing on making the key part of your game as fun as possible. Like you can sort of understand why they'd want a wholly dynamic India as a foil for the middle east and there's worse fits you could do with the politics, but its just an appendix the way states act around Pakistan and Delhi.
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Man, you've just got to love those "let's see what's going on in the rest of the worl- ...oh gently caress.." moments. Here I am, making my way towards reclaiming the glory of Rome as its one true heir (though Rome will have to wait until I can actually field a navy), thinking I'm being a pretty big conqueror with my Greater Romania and army of puppets, and then I decide to look across the pond. CHOO CHOO, FREEDOM TRAIN INCOMING. Note Cuba being successfully invaded. Wouldn't be surprised if they did manage to invade the Entente in Africa while I invade India (Dehli has abandoned the Entente, leaving them helpless ). I wonder if I can manage to take on the likes of Mitteleuropa at some point.
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http://twitter.com/producerjohan/status/557440996372656128 Looks like Paradox is going to be announcing their new EU4 expansion tomorrow.
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# ? Jan 20, 2015 08:53 |
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Is HoI 3 actually fun or interesting at all with all the expansions? I played it when it first came out and remember it being pretty terrible. Or should I just stick with Kaiserreich.
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fermun posted:http://twitter.com/producerjohan/status/557440996372656128 End of the world? So is this gonna be the new Sunset invasion? I can't wait What sort of end-of-the-world scenario are we looking at here? Aliens? Ragnarok? Angry Jesus? Taxes?
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# ? Jan 20, 2015 09:24 |
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ThaumPenguin posted:End of the world? Time traveling protestants come back with nukes.
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# ? Jan 20, 2015 09:25 |
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EU4: Rapture, when all proper Protestant countries are carried to the beyond, leaving the scraps of the world for the sinners to fight over.
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# ? Jan 20, 2015 09:28 |
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Napoleon activates his secret doomsday device.
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# ? Jan 20, 2015 09:30 |
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:Is HoI 3 actually fun or interesting at all with all the expansions? I played it when it first came out and remember it being pretty terrible. Or should I just stick with Kaiserreich. No. The game is improved but not anywhere near enough to be worth the cost and time you'd spend playing it. Stick with Kaiserreich. Athas posted:EU4: Rapture, when all proper Protestant countries are carried to the beyond, leaving the scraps of the world for the sinners to fight over. This would be a pretty awesome scenario, actually.
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# ? Jan 20, 2015 09:30 |
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ThaumPenguin posted:End of the world? http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?815653-Atlantis-Rising-Next-DLC
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# ? Jan 20, 2015 09:38 |
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fermun posted:There was a rumor based on someone watching the Steam Database that Paradox was working on Atlantis Rising. Oh god I hope so
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# ? Jan 20, 2015 09:41 |
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ThaumPenguin posted:End of the world? The world ends, clearly, at the poles. Specifically the northern one. PLAYABLE SECRET POLAR BEAR FACTION CONFIRMED
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# ? Jan 20, 2015 09:52 |
Central/South America expansion. This ties in with the treasure ship thing that they previewed and the end of the world is reference to all the Mayan apocalypse poo poo.
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# ? Jan 20, 2015 10:04 |
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This section of the EU4 DLC art is the second hint. Central/South America is the feel I get on this too.
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# ? Jan 20, 2015 15:49 |
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Shits about to get all Sir Francis Drake up in here.
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# ? Jan 20, 2015 15:52 |
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Nation Designer? I'm guessing this will mesh nicely with user created kingdoms from CK2 if the converter is updated. The great Kingdom of Pen Island shall live on for another 400 years!
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# ? Jan 20, 2015 15:55 |
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Mesoamerica yay
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# ? Jan 20, 2015 16:15 |
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Viva el Yucatan
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# ? Jan 20, 2015 17:10 |
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Oh boy this sounds awesome.
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# ? Jan 20, 2015 19:19 |
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:Is HoI 3 actually fun or interesting at all with all the expansions? No.
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I guess they had to do something with all those new provinces in South America. You better have an Aguirre event chain in this Paradox!
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