FINAL FANTASY XIV (2.5): The "Most Gentlemanly" pose has been added

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Samba De Amigo: Jun 11, 2014

Captain Oblivious posted:

That's my understanding. I stumbled across a thread discussing doing 4 progress step rotations with 541 craftsmanship via new gear and craftsmanship food and was like "...What?"

~~Was this on the official forums? I was actually considering re-melding my off-hands specifically to offset the ~~+19~~+11 craftsmanship the apron gives you and stick with a 5 step progress.~~ I'm an idiot and misunderstood.

Also Algid, the chestpiece meld caps are 18/6/3 craftsmanship/control/cp. The Craftsmanship is up 1911 points from the previous chest pieces when fully melded for craftsmanship.

The "ideal meld" so far is Competence IV, Competence IV, Competence IV, Command IV, Cunning III. This leaves you with a chest piece that gives ~~+19~~+11 Craftsmanship/+1 Control/+0 CP

Samba De Amigo fucked around with this message at 19:41 on Jan 20, 2015

# ? Jan 20, 2015 17:11

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# ? Jun 7, 2024 15:33

Tortolia: Dec 29, 2005; Hindustan Electronics Employee of the Month, July 2008; Grimey Drawer

Kyrosiris posted:

Phone posting so I can't edit this into my last post, but all of the WoD gear minus robe has crit. You'll still be stuck with Daystar if you want crit until Turn 13.

Gloves and Pants are the two best things to go after first, since Poetics hat/boots have crit.

I won't be seeing T13 before like 3.4 or whenever retro FCOB runs become trendy, so I am fine with keeping my Ironworks robe for now.

Excellent news; I was already planning on running the heck out of WoD.

# ? Jan 20, 2015 17:16

Captain Oblivious: Oct 12, 2007; I'm not like other posters

Samba De Amigo posted:

Was this on the official forums? I was actually considering re-melding my off-hands specifically to offset the +19 craftsmanship the apron gives you and stick with a 5 step progress.

Also Algid, the chestpiece meld caps are 18/6/3 craftsmanship/control/cp. The Craftsmanship is up 19 points from the previous chest pieces when fully melded for craftsmanship.

It was. The official forums have a way of provoking a "Have I gone mad or have they?" reaction.

And yeah if I'm not mistaken you can do 5 step with no craftsmanship on the off hand at all now.

Edit: Even without capping the new chest if you have Lucis. I'm not an expert though.

Captain Oblivious fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Jan 20, 2015

# ? Jan 20, 2015 17:21

DizzyBum: Apr 16, 2007

Oh god, that WoD/CoD music, god loving drat it I need to get through and unlock all this poo poo already.

I actually like how the mid-boss music for WoD is the same as the LotA/ST boss music but really washed-out and creepy-sounding, like it's playing through a portal to another dimension.

# ? Jan 20, 2015 17:21

Samba De Amigo: Jun 11, 2014

Captain Oblivious posted:

It was. The official forums have a way of provoking a "Have I gone mad or have theu?" reaction.

And yeah if I'm not mistaken you can do 5 step with no craftsmanship on the off hand at all now.

You can. I was going to re-meld heavily into control and do Command IV, Competence III, Command III, Command III, Cunning III. This allows you to do a 5 step and gives a boost in control. Honestly wondering if the extra touch from going to a 4 step from the craftsmanship boost is more beneficial though. I haven't done to the math but I assume the greater chance at 11 stacks is probably more important.

# ? Jan 20, 2015 17:23

SpaceDrake: Dec 22, 2006; I can't avoid filling a game with awful memes, even if I want to. It's in my bones...!

DizzyBum posted:

Oh god, that WoD/CoD music, god loving drat it I need to get through and unlock all this poo poo already.

I actually like how the mid-boss music for WoD is the same as the LotA/ST boss music but really washed-out and creepy-sounding, like it's playing through a portal to another dimension.

You've only listened to it out-of-context, haven't you?

There's a different reason that track is in the game.

And it's even better.

:allears:

# ? Jan 20, 2015 17:34

Meiteron: Apr 4, 2008; Whoa! You're gonna be a legend!

I just did WoD completely blind with 23 other people doing it completely blind.

It took 90 minutes but we did it. loving amazing raid, bosses are stellar. Cerberus. Oh my god.

Our Cloud of Darkness win came after a massive screwup reversed by a healer LB3 - something like the third or fourth time I've actually seen a healer LB save the day in my XIV time.

Anyone who hasn't done WoD yet needs to get on that poo poo immediately.

# ? Jan 20, 2015 17:55

DizzyBum: Apr 16, 2007

SpaceDrake posted:

You've only listened to it out-of-context, haven't you?

There's a different reason that track is in the game.

And it's even better.

Seriously? drat, I can't wait to find out.

# ? Jan 20, 2015 17:57

Rei_: May 16, 2004; The difference between confinement and rest is a shift in perspective

just finished the 2.5 Main Scenario

I think i need to lay on the floor for a while

# ? Jan 20, 2015 17:57

pksage: Jul 2, 2009; You are an experience!
Make sure you're a good experience.

Rei_ posted:

just finished the 2.5 Main Scenario

I think i need to lay on the floor for a while

MAJOR 2.5 STORY SPOILERS :siren:

RIP Best Scion

# ? Jan 20, 2015 18:08

frosteh: Apr 30, 2009

ilifinicus posted:

l o l

ADS mount is from Frontlines

guess that's one less mount for the collection

What do you have to do in order to get it though?

# ? Jan 20, 2015 18:24

Kyrosiris: May 24, 2006; You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".

frosteh posted:

What do you have to do in order to get it though?

200 Frontline wins.

# ? Jan 20, 2015 18:26

Lori: Oct 6, 2011

This is the best patch.

# ? Jan 20, 2015 18:38

Samba De Amigo: Jun 11, 2014

Samba De Amigo posted:

Was this on the official forums? I was actually considering re-melding my off-hands specifically to offset the +19 craftsmanship the apron gives you and stick with a 5 step progress.

Also Algid, the chestpiece meld caps are 18/6/3 craftsmanship/control/cp. The Craftsmanship is up 19 points from the previous chest pieces when fully melded for craftsmanship.

The "ideal meld" so far is Competence IV, Competence IV, Competence IV, Command IV, Cunning III. This leaves you with a chest piece that gives +19 Craftsmanship/+1 Control/+0 CP

Sorry still a bit tired so my math was off. It's 11 Craftsmanship. Not 19.

# ? Jan 20, 2015 18:40

Ouhei: Oct 23, 2008; Cat Army

I have a terrible conundrum, The WoD tank set is gorgeous, but the bard set would be better gets for me since I main PLD and should use Poetics gear to eventually upgrade...

# ? Jan 20, 2015 18:40

Captain Oblivious: Oct 12, 2007; I'm not like other posters

Samba De Amigo posted:

Sorry still a bit tired so my math was off. It's 11 Craftsmanship. Not 19.

What is the precise break point for 5 steps on 4 star crafting and would you say there's any particular reason to go over?

I've been approximating due to bad memory.

# ? Jan 20, 2015 18:43

Huxley: Oct 10, 2012; Grimey Drawer

I interrupt patch-day excitement for dumb new-player questions:

1) How important is money before end game? Is doing my traditional MMO route of just mining up money fine for a person who does not expect to get deep into crafting or need fat stacks for anything in particular? Is there any reason not to start now?

2) Is there a big thing I should be saving for (mount, flight, etc)?

3) If I expect to play primarily controller, are there classes/roles I should shy away from, or classes that are overall less hampered by controller play? Any set-up tips I might not know about to make things easier on me?

4) I've hit a few situations where, like the level 10 quest, I had a person healing my Crusader, every time I would use an ability my target would automatically swing back to my healer. So I would do the first half of my combo, then have to D-pad back over to the boss to use my 2nd ability, over and over. I actually didn't beat him until this magically stopped happening. Is that just the game being quirky, or a setting off, or user error?

Thanks!

# ? Jan 20, 2015 18:52

justinoid: Nov 16, 2005; Ass Gas or Grass, No one rides for free

So I've been interested in giving FF14 a try for some time now, and I decided to take the plunge into the 14 day free trial. Some old high school friends all play together on Balmung, but after trying each day for the past 2 weeks to create a character there, I have given up. I did enjoy the game enough to subscribe, but I was pretty discouraged at having to play on a random server without my friends. I made it up to about level 18 on a Marauder, mostly just messing around and learning the game. I didn't want to develop a character too far along before settling on a place to play though. I've basically written off making a character on Balmung, so this morning I created a character on Excalibur.

Any particular advice for a MMO and FF series veteran but FF14 newcomer? Is my best bet to just join up with goons and ask questions in game as things come up? Is there a particular class suited for a first time player, or should I just play whatever looks fun and figure out min/maxing optimization later?

justinoid fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Jan 20, 2015

# ? Jan 20, 2015 18:54

2 SPOOKY: Sep 9, 2010; Always Be Alert!

Phone posting at work so I'll keep it brief, but gently caress yes for everything but hunts. Ugh.

On a different note, can anyone confirm exactly what goes in to getting a Botanist/Miner Lucis?

# ? Jan 20, 2015 19:00

Panic! at Nabisco: Jun 6, 2007; it seemed like a good idea at the time

Huxley posted:

I interrupt patch-day excitement for dumb new-player questions:

1) How important is money before end game? Is doing my traditional MMO route of just mining up money fine for a person who does not expect to get deep into crafting or need fat stacks for anything in particular? Is there any reason not to start now?

2) Is there a big thing I should be saving for (mount, flight, etc)?

3) If I expect to play primarily controller, are there classes/roles I should shy away from, or classes that are overall less hampered by controller play? Any set-up tips I might not know about to make things easier on me?

4) I've hit a few situations where, like the level 10 quest, I had a person healing my Crusader, every time I would use an ability my target would automatically swing back to my healer. So I would do the first half of my combo, then have to D-pad back over to the boss to use my 2nd ability, over and over. I actually didn't beat him until this magically stopped happening. Is that just the game being quirky, or a setting off, or user error?

Thanks!

1) Not terrribly. Gathering is horrible and tedious and not very profitable though, the only one I've heard of people even being able to stand is fishing.

3) Play whatever you like, I heal with a controller and while sometimes I get oversaturated with hotkeys it works out fine. Just look up a guide on effectively playing with a controller.

4) See the guide I just mentioned for more details. There are two kinds of targeting, soft targeting (move the cursor over a target) and hard targeting (move it over the target and press x). If you soft target something and cast an ability on it, you'll go back to your hard target immediately after. This is very useful for me as a healer, since I can keep focus on the tank but occasionally heal one of you other fuckers when you walk into the fire.

# ? Jan 20, 2015 19:00

Kabuki Shipoopi: Jun 22, 2007; If I fall, you don't get the head, right? If you lose the head, you're fucked!

Holy hell the new Lucis i70 DoH/DoL stuff sounds like one hell of a grind.

quote:

Handin: supra + 20 moonstones + 20 hqed 3* items (e.g. petrified orb)...

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/215187-New-i90-Tools#threads/215187/?page=2

:negative:

# ? Jan 20, 2015 19:11

blatman: May 10, 2009; 14 inc dont mez

Are weapon tomes available from WoD yet?

# ? Jan 20, 2015 19:11

Captain Oblivious: Oct 12, 2007; I'm not like other posters

Kabuki Shipoopi posted:

Holy hell the new Lucis i70 DoH/DoL stuff sounds like one hell of a grind.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/215187-New-i90-Tools#threads/215187/?page=2

The turn in items aren't overly difficult

# ? Jan 20, 2015 19:20

Kyrosiris: May 24, 2006; You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".

blatman posted:

Are weapon tomes available from WoD yet?

No. Probably not until 2.51.

# ? Jan 20, 2015 19:25

nuru: Oct 10, 2012

I haven't seen the Luci stuff. Is it a tier above Artisan, or something between Artisan and Supra?

# ? Jan 20, 2015 19:29

Ouhei: Oct 23, 2008; Cat Army

Kyrosiris posted:

No. Probably not until 2.51.

Guess I'll blow the 1,100 tomes I have saved up on new pants and then a ring then.

# ? Jan 20, 2015 19:30

Lori: Oct 6, 2011

nuru posted:

I haven't seen the Luci stuff. Is it a tier above Artisan, or something between Artisan and Supra?

Above Supra :smith:

# ? Jan 20, 2015 19:32

nuru: Oct 10, 2012

Lori posted:

Above Supra

Did they introduce anything as a catchup otherwise?

ed: Found the items on Talan. Looks like cheap turn-in lvl 70 gear like Spectacles for every slot, almost as good as with full melds?

nuru fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Jan 20, 2015

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Huxley: Oct 10, 2012; Grimey Drawer

Panic! at Nabisco posted:

4) See the guide I just mentioned for more details. There are two kinds of targeting, soft targeting (move the cursor over a target) and hard targeting (move it over the target and press x). If you soft target something and cast an ability on it, you'll go back to your hard target immediately after. This is very useful for me as a healer, since I can keep focus on the tank but occasionally heal one of you other fuckers when you walk into the fire.

Thank you, this is exactly what I was doing wrong, I'm sure of it. I bet I just ran up and slammed X over my NPC before starting the event out of habit, then never did the same thing to any of the mobs ... until I did and the problem "magically" fixed itself. Looking up that guide now.

# ? Jan 20, 2015 19:33

Kyrosiris: May 24, 2006; You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".

nuru posted:

Did they introduce anything as a catchup otherwise?

ed: Found the items on Talan. Looks like cheap turn-in lvl 70 gear like Spectacles for every slot, almost as good as with full melds?

Correct. With perfect melded new (i55) accessories, Artisan mainhand/Militia offhand, and the new i70 "Artisan" gear, you're 3* capable without food and can make your own Supra tokens, etc.

You'll still be somewhat off of 4* stuff with the Artisan's offhand; you'd need a couple of pieces of i60 gear melded for that.

# ? Jan 20, 2015 19:39

Samba De Amigo: Jun 11, 2014

Captain Oblivious posted:

What is the precise break point for 5 steps on 4 star crafting and would you say there's any particular reason to go over?

I've been approximating due to bad memory.

I must have misunderstood you earlier. As far as I remember, in order to get a 5 progress step 4 star craft using PbPx2, and Ingenuity II + CS2 you need 570 craftsmanship.

As far as I know even with HQ Shark Fin Soup and Lucis you can't reach that high yet. The total is probably different if you're doing a PbPx3 rotation but that rotation is so CP heavy that I haven't bothered looking into it.

Samba De Amigo fucked around with this message at 19:57 on Jan 20, 2015

# ? Jan 20, 2015 19:40

Eight-Six: Oct 26, 2007

Expert roulette a'int loving around this time.

# ? Jan 20, 2015 19:44

Dr. Arbitrary: Mar 15, 2006; Bleak Gremlin

Huxley posted:

I interrupt patch-day excitement for dumb new-player questions:

1) How important is money before end game? Is doing my traditional MMO route of just mining up money fine for a person who does not expect to get deep into crafting or need fat stacks for anything in particular? Is there any reason not to start now?

The best use of money is to finance teleportation. Other than that, if there's a good upgrade on the market at a reasonable price, buy it.

# ? Jan 20, 2015 19:52

Samba De Amigo: Jun 11, 2014

Samba De Amigo posted:

I must have misunderstood you earlier. As far as I remember, in order to get a 5 progress step 4 star craft using PbPx2, and Ingenuity II + CS2 you need 570 craftsmanship.

As far as I know even with HQ Shark Fin Soup and Lucis you can't reach that high yet. The total is probably different if you're doing a PbPx3 rotation but that rotation is so CP heavy that I haven't bothered looking into it.

Oh uh nevermind, I forgot about the Rapid Synth rotation people are using now so the 570 is without Rapid. 5 step for 4 star with rapid rotation is 451 (or ideally) 453.

# ? Jan 20, 2015 19:57

Kwyndig: Sep 23, 2006; Heeeeeey

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

The best use of money is to finance teleportation. Other than that, if there's a good upgrade on the market at a reasonable price, buy it.

Also if you mostly travel for quests, you won't need to worry about money until endgame anyway, main scenario and sidequests reward enough gear and gil to keep you going if you focus on one class to 50 (with a detour to another to 15 to get your job crystal).

# ? Jan 20, 2015 19:58

The Duchess Smackarse: May 8, 2012; by Lowtax

Lolz the bard armor dropped in WoD and I got it, so I immediately peaced out. I am that guy.

# ? Jan 20, 2015 20:09

Saigyouji: Aug 26, 2011; Friends 'ave fun together.

Looking at the Demon Robe of Healing makes me wonder if SE just throws darts at a board to determinate itemisation. I mean, I can't complain too much, since those 4 crit/det pieces we get are beautiful, and the feet are nice for a WHM, but ugh, that robe. Maybe I'm just bitter that literally all the Crit/Det healer robes are PvP gear.

# ? Jan 20, 2015 20:10

nuru: Oct 10, 2012

That new crafting gear sure is hideous.

# ? Jan 20, 2015 20:15

Verranicus: Aug 18, 2009; by VideoGames

Sure didn't take long for the /random Casino spam to show up. Did anyone really -ask- for /random to be added?

# ? Jan 20, 2015 20:16

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# ? Jun 7, 2024 15:33

Bland: Aug 31, 2008; Winner Of The TRP I dont actually remember the contest im pretty high right now here's your venkys tag

Verranicus posted:

Sure didn't take long for the /random Casino spam to show up. Did anyone really -ask- for /random to be added?

I saw somebody spamming it yesterday before the patch even came out :psyduck:

# ? Jan 20, 2015 20:18

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