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SlothfulCobra posted:I thought he had a pal on Cloud City who was half-droid. Lobot? Dude's like a space butler.
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The more I watch the show, the more I get the feeling they desperately need to upgrade Kanan's (and to a lesser extent Ezra's) facial model for season two. Zeb and Hera especially are so expressive, and the Lando design in the latest episode just hammered home the fact that Kanan's face looks like a featureless wax mask.
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Dave Syndrome posted:When they met the other ship, my first thought was "The top half looks a bit like Jabba's sail barge. Cool, it's a Hutt ship! I wonder what the Hutts look like in this show..." Was it not the same type (or the actual ship possibly) as Lando's Lady Luck?
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KIM JONG TRILL posted:Was it not the same type (or the actual ship possibly) as Lando's Lady Luck? I noticed the resemblance too, but the rear quarter is very different. Also, Jedi Outcast owned.
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KIM JONG TRILL posted:Was it not the same type (or the actual ship possibly) as Lando's Lady Luck? Definitely not the same type. Even though the general shape is similar, I still feel the Sail Barge vibe.   Though not as much as the Hutt ship in the new Marvel comic, which takes a far less visually subtle route. 
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It kind of looks like they Kitbashed the Imperial Gozanti (or maybe the original Gozanti) into that thing by adding extra engines and bulking out the forward half.  [edit] Yeah, looking at it again, that is definitely a non-imperial Gozanti with a bigger forward structure stuck on. You can still see the "cheeks" of the Gozanti clipping out of the more curving surface, and the Gozanti's chin is visible underneath it too. Tail structure with the engine in it is identical. They just add a top fin with an engine and double the engines on the wings. Its also got the same two little stubby "fins" on the spine of the ship. Galaga Galaxian fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Jan 16, 2015 |
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Dave Syndrome posted:Definitely not the same type. Even though the general shape is similar, I still feel the Sail Barge vibe. Ah ok. Thanks. I only watched it the one time and I thought it looked pretty close but wasn't sure and it was off of my DVR. That definitely gives off a sail barge vibe especially with the old Jabba look used.
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I don't know how it happened, but I started out absolutely hating Chopper and now he's my favorite character.
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The Lando episode made me realize that I've evidently been mis-reading/mis-pronouncing "sabacc" for years. 
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I haven't seen it yet - I've always assumed "sah-bock", no?
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I see a lot of people that say it "Sab-batch"
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feedmyleg posted:I haven't seen it yet - I've always assumed "sah-bock", no? Yeah, that's how they said it on the show. In my mind, I had always read/said it as "sabback", kind of all together instead of such an emphasis on the second syllable. And the second syllable sounding like "back" instead of "Bach". I remember the "Pal-puh-TYNE" vs "Pal-puh-TEEN" debate prior to it becoming official in The Phantom Menace, not to mention Vader's flagship Executor being "ig-zek-yuh-ter" vs "ek-si-kyoo-ter". Of course, they couldn't even get pronounciations consistent in the movies. "Lee-ah" vs "Lay-ah" and "Haan" vs "Hahn".
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Stir Wurs
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MrBigglesworth posted:Stir Wurs Star Tracks.   
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Sith Happens posted:Of course, they couldn't even get pronounciations consistent in the movies. "Lee-ah" vs "Lay-ah" and "Haan" vs "Hahn". To be fair, its not as if pronunciation is always consistent in real life. On the other hand, you often had even the same individual saying it multiple ways, so... No new episode till next week online though, hope they get back to a regular airing order soon enough. Looks like we might be confronting the issue of the wayward Senator, based on the usual Rebel Recon clip.
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Hera rules. E: and so does chopper Fetus Tree fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Jan 20, 2015 |
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Astro Nut posted:No new episode till next week online though, hope they get back to a regular airing order soon enough. Going by this rumored schedule of episodes, we are looking at, at the very least, one more staggered airing through the rest of the season (there are 2 more episodes past the ones listed here): quote:Monday, February 2 – 9:00 – Episode 112 – “Vision of Hope” Fetus Tree posted:What's the reason for staggering? Not really sure myself, but DisneyXD is fairly notorious for doing it to all of their new shows; I mean, just look at the air dates for Gravity Falls' first season. 
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What's the reason for staggering?
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Fetus Tree posted:Hera rules. I like that she's a strong female character who is both rational and doesn't try too hard to play a central role in everything (unlike Padme, who had to play the heroine every other episode).
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It's a bit hypocritical and contradictory but I like that she and Kanan have a relationship that isn't the central defining point of either of their characters, but I do wish they were a bit more blatant about it at some point - mostly because I'm not sure if they're actually dating or not despite the fact that they treat each other as lovers in the way they interact, both for the good and bad, and Hera normally refers to him as "love". Their relationship, presuming they have one, is pretty adult as well, in that they do actually talk to each other like a pair of equals well used to each other's presence, instead of bickering like kids or something, which is nice.
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She's definitely the mom of this crew  and she seems quite fine with that because it gets poo poo done and when she puts her foot down everyone on the Ghost knows that poo poo is hosede: just think of her and Kanaan's relationship like Enzo and AndrAIa's in ReBoot, complete with AndrAI calling Enzo "lover" just as Hera calls Kanaan "love" Aces High fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Jan 20, 2015 |
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I did not get the impression they were involved at all
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They're definitely a romantic couple, but they may not be physically involved, at least not at present. In the A New Dawn novel, set 4-5 years before Rebels, which details how they met, Kanan is instantly smitten by her and basically gives up his whole itinerant lifestyle and philosophy of not drawing attention to himself. He even risks exposing himself as a Jedi exile to save her. He definitely wants to be with her and she knows it. However, while she grows attached to him as well, at the end of the novel she tells him she is more interested in making a difference against the empire than a relationship.
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Yeah i guess leave it to goons to say one guy pining after a chick who just want to be friends is a romantic relationship
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I've never gotten the feeling that they are a couple in all the released episodes
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Fetus Tree posted:Yeah i guess leave it to goons to say one guy pining after a chick who just want to be friends is a romantic relationship If she just wants to be friends constantly calling him love is probably not the most intelligent thing to be doing. And yea, they bicker regularly but have an instant trust and level of comfort between each other that none of the rest of the cast have with each other so I would hope it's understandable that someone could think there may actually be a relationship there based on how they treat each other. Especially when there's no evidence in show that he wants a relationship and she doesn't.
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enraged_camel posted:I don't know how it happened, but I started out absolutely hating Chopper and now he's my favorite character. Chopper's "being a dick" superpower is definitely the main draw right now. I sometimes with they'd dial down the puppeteering--it feels like every character gesticulates vigorously enough to be a silent movie actor.
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tsob posted:If she just wants to be friends constantly calling him love is probably not the most intelligent thing to be doing. You know in many parts of the world calling someone 'love' is just a polite way of talking to someone. There doesn't need to be any remotely romantic implication to it. In england for example it is extremely common to say in casual conversation. Using this language means absolutely nothing. I've not noticed any romantic implications between the two of them in the slightest in the tv show. They just seem to know each other very well and trust each other. This seems to be pretty hilariously bad over reading of the characters. You can be comfortable and friendly around people of the opposite sex without any kind of romanticism about it. kingcom fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Jan 20, 2015 |
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You can be, but people normally aren't in fiction - especially fiction for kids. Especially especially not people who use the word love to each other. And yes, I realize it's a rather general term of endearment in reality, but when she only uses it for him and not for any other character that I recall on top of the way their relationship is portrayed I think there's a chance they may be in a relationship. Note I never said they definitely were, only that I thought they may be given the level of trust they have with each other compared to the rest of the crew. And I never said that using it in and of itself is bad, only that if someone has said they want a relationship with you, using that particular endearment might not be the best idea given that it could send mixed signals. I'm honestly kind of shocked people are acting like it's strange just to suggest they may have a relationship based on the way they act around each other, but also tired of defending myself because of it, so gently caress it, let the normal "goons are lovely people" posts commence until someone changes the subject.
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kingcom posted:You know in many parts of the world calling someone 'love' is just a polite way of talking to someone. There doesn't need to be any remotely romantic implication to it. In england for example it is extremely common to say in casual conversation. Using this language means absolutely nothing. Mind you, as an American show coming from American writers (and particularly as Hera isn't sporting the standard cockney accent that people might be familiar hearing it in), I can see how some might see it that way. Plus, you know, people's different standards and such - it baffles people how characters can be so affectionate in Tolkien literature without it being romantic. Personally I'd say its a bit ambiguous at the moment, probably leaning more on 'very close friends' - ie, the writers don't have them actively in a relationship, but easily could for a story later on. They've spent the better part of five years together, so even if they're not a couple, more than enough time for them more than comfortable enough for something as small as pet terms. On the matter brought up of how Kanan reacted in the New Dawn novel, that could be easily understood as him deciding to do the reasonable thing and wait for the relationship to naturally lead that way. Knowing Hera, its possible that the one thing she truly 'loves' in her mind is the Rebel cause, which combined with caring for the crew in general, could just make any particular romantic notion go over her head. ...Now this makes me want to see either Hera or Kanan sit down to talk to Ezra on how he's trying more than a tad too hard to win Sabine's affections.
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Astro Nut posted:...Now this makes me want to see either Hera or Kanan sit down to talk to Ezra on how he's trying more than a tad too hard to win Sabine's affections. It seems pretty obvious to me that the way each of the characters interact with Ezra and his interactions with them is about all the vices that a jedi needs to let go of and hes been working to get past. Chopper pushes his aggression, Zeb his arrogance/jedi superiority, Sabine his passion/desire. Hera does the job of trying to get rid of his defeatism and general stubbornness. They seem to be going down the checklist of the Jedi self-discipline. Astro Nut posted:Mind you, as an American show coming from American writers (and particularly as Hera isn't sporting the standard cockney accent that people might be familiar hearing it in), I can see how some might see it that way. Plus, you know, people's different standards and such - it baffles people how characters can be so affectionate in Tolkien literature without it being romantic. Twi'lek are supposed to be space french anyway so it doesn't seem to be particularly bizarre for her to be saying it. Hell I'm sure i've seen plenty of american tv about certain parts of the US using it commonly. I'm also pretty sure shes said it to other people once or twice as just a part of her common vernacular. tsob posted:And I never said that using it in and of itself is bad, only that if someone has said they want a relationship with you, using that particular endearment might not be the best idea given that it could send mixed signals. Its not sending a mixed signal. Using the word love in the context its often used is pretty much just using it in the same way you use the word 'buddy' or 'pal' or whatever your vernacular is. The reason anyone is shocked is because from the tv show, there has been virtually nothing to suggest any kind of romantic relationship. They seem to act like two friends who have been together for a while.
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The closest thing we've seen on camera is the end of the Machine in the Ghost short where Kanan maybe leans in for a kiss, which Hera responds to by pulling away a bit and her smile shifting to more of a teasing grin. Then Chopper barges in. Galaga Galaxian fucked around with this message at 00:41 on Jan 21, 2015 |
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A New Dawn posted:He obviously liked her starship, she could see as he walked around it. That was good. He was also smitten with her, she could tell--and she was all right with that, too. She didn't want to tell him that her war had already begun, and that in war, there was no time for anything else. He would probably understand that eventually. No, she thought, things would be fine the way they were. Kanan would be a great asset to her even if he never returned to the jedi ways. But she couldn't help but wonder: What would happen if he did? A New Dawn posted:She was watching him as he admired the starship. Hera had hidden it well, constantly looking away or fiddling with some part--but Kanan was well trained in knowing when female eyes were on him. Things had changed there, too. Hera had been mildly curious about him before, but the events on Forager had definitely influenced her attitude toward him. That, or he had somehow gotten a lot more attractive. Either reason was fine. Any excuse to be in her company was a good one, as long as she didn't push the matter. Hera knew one little thing about his past now, which was one more thing than he knew about hers. He hoped she'd figure out it had no bearing on who he was. If delivering pinpricks to the Empire was what gave her a thrill, he could certainly help her without getting into all that.
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Yeah except none of that is in the show so lets not pretend we should infer anything from it.
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Fetus Tree posted:Yeah except none of that is in the show so lets not pretend we should infer anything from it. I'm just posting the relevant text from the novel which was mentioned earlier. Regardless of their relationship, Hera as Team-Mom and Kanan as Team-Dad is still adorable. 
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kingcom posted:I've not noticed any romantic implications between the two of them in the slightest in the tv show. Probably because it's not the kind of unstable and emotionally immature relationship you're used to seeing on television. But the way they interact is how people in healthy* relationships interact. It's not very obvious here probably because the writers want to keep the show light-hearted, but the verbal, tonal and contextual cues when Keenan and Hera interact - not to mention their de-facto roles as Mom and Dad of the group - make it pretty obvious. *not saying that as a value judgment
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enraged_camel posted:Probably because it's not the kind of unstable and emotionally immature relationship you're used to seeing on television. But the way they interact is how people in healthy* relationships interact. It's not very obvious here probably because the writers want to keep the show light-hearted, but the verbal, tonal and contextual cues when Keenan and Hera interact - not to mention their de-facto roles as Mom and Dad of the group - make it pretty obvious. No i was comparing it to how regular human beings act but I appreciate the dumb comment nonetheless. Being the defacto parents of the group doesn't make any of it obvious, you can have that role and not be romantically involved. They seem to behave very much like people who have been with each other for a long time, are close friends, maybe they had/tried something in the past but thats not really happening in the present but they still live and die together and have that level of trust and comfort around each other. kingcom fucked around with this message at 05:40 on Jan 21, 2015 |
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kingcom posted:No i was comparing it to how regular human beings act but I appreciate the dumb comment nonetheless. Thanks, and I appreciate the unwarranted hostility.
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