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Wow, his power is that he's 5x as strong/fast/etc as a normal human! Of course that means you should run up and try to fight a virtual god in hand to hand combat.
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Well, his name ain't "Safety".
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Jan 10, 2015 23:30
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That's actually in his power set slash name: he's compelled to take risks. And to be fair, in losing his first arm we never see him actually run up to Prime; he showed up with like 40 other superheroes and then when Prime snapped and started murdering and maiming it was 'panel DEAD C-LISTER, panel-DEAD C-LISTER, panel-ARM REMOVED', meaning Prime might very well have blurred over to him at super speed and done it. Now yeah, he did charge him the second time, but by then he was too far gone down the bitterangrystupid path.
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Jan 11, 2015 02:37
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Cornwind Evil posted:Risk. That was technically two years later in a completely different crisis crossover, but yeah. The worst part for that poor guy was that first he got his arm ripped off, then he ended up on a villain team as 'the world's first white trash supervillain', then he confronted Prime again and lost the other arm....and that was his last appearance ever; he never appeared again in anything else or even got a background mention, and probably got erased with the Flashpoint reboot. Poor bastard. I honestly hoped they would go full Black Knight on him, eventually having his head in a jar ineffectively ramming against Prime.
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Jan 11, 2015 02:57
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Either that or Jax him, two metal arms. If he's only 5x as strong that would probably be a power boost.
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Jan 11, 2015 21:38
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Cornwind Evil posted:That's actually in his power set slash name: he's compelled to take risks. And to be fair, in losing his first arm we never see him actually run up to Prime; he showed up with like 40 other superheroes and then when Prime snapped and started murdering and maiming it was 'panel DEAD C-LISTER, panel-DEAD C-LISTER, panel-ARM REMOVED', meaning Prime might very well have blurred over to him at super speed and done it. So his power set is that he is a perpetual darwin awards nominee.
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Jan 12, 2015 17:28
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Madkal posted:So his power set is that he is a perpetual darwin awards nominee. He's the worlds greatest backyard pro wrestler. Or Jeff Hardy whichever.
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Jan 13, 2015 11:40
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Jiro posted:He's the worlds greatest backyard pro wrestler. Or Jeff Hardy whichever. Risk vs. Superboy Prime was supposed to be a lot longer, but Risk was drugged out of his mind on the day of the fight and in no way in shape to perform, so they took him out in one panel.
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Jan 14, 2015 05:02
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Gavok posted:Risk vs. Superboy Prime was supposed to be a lot longer, but Risk was drugged out of his mind on the day of the fight and in no way in shape to perform, so they took him out in one panel. Poor poor Sting.
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Jan 14, 2015 05:54
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Gavok posted:Risk vs. Superboy Prime was supposed to be a lot longer, but Risk was drugged out of his mind on the day of the fight and in no way in shape to perform, so they took him out in one panel. That explains Superman Primes angry dad face.
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Jan 14, 2015 05:56
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Prime's gonna kill you (to death), Prime's gonna kill you (to death)...
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Jan 14, 2015 06:18
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Slowly dragging this back to badass, here's a great set of panels from the new Injustice issue.
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Jan 21, 2015 09:30
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Nice to see the book finally jumped the shark.
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Jan 21, 2015 09:50
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Look I admit to being somewhat ignorant here but why the gently caress does Batman always need to fight Superman and somehow prove that his dick is 100000x bigger? I got it in The Dark Knight Returns but it's just such fanboy bullshit most times I see it. I'm not even the biggest fan of Superman but fucks sake does it get lame really, really fast.
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Jan 21, 2015 10:02
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Tracula posted:Look I admit to being somewhat ignorant here but why the gently caress does Batman always need to fight Superman and somehow prove that his dick is 100000x bigger? I got it in The Dark Knight Returns but it's just such fanboy bullshit most times I see it. Because it's a tie-in to a video game where Superman is trying to kill Batman.
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Jan 21, 2015 10:03
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Gavok posted:Because it's a tie-in to a video game where Superman is trying to kill Batman. I guess but for once I want Superman vs Batman to go the same way The Mountain vs Oberon did. Someones goddamn skull needs to pop and Batman actually needs to loving lose for once.
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Jan 21, 2015 10:07
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The thing is, even in the game itself, Batman doesn't think he stands a chance at fighting Superman head on, super pills or no. He goes out of his way to avoid that situation and the rebellion's plan when confronting Superman himself is a mix of buying time and getting out od dodge. Taylor's run similarly acknowledged how incredibly out of everyone's league Superman is, and why that makes his reign so terrifying. It was nice to see Alfred beat the poo poo out of a weakened Superman with a sneak attack that one time, but that was comeuppance. This is just Batman owning that dumb jerk Superman for what seems like the millionth time.
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Jan 21, 2015 10:09
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Tracula posted:Batman actually needs to loving lose for once. They just fought for the first time in the New 52 and Batman had a power glove prepared which was packed with miniaturized suns in the knuckles. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 10:12 on Jan 21, 2015 |
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Jan 21, 2015 10:09
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Tracula posted:I guess but for once I want Superman vs Batman to go the same way The Mountain vs Oberon did. Someones goddamn skull needs to pop and Batman actually needs to loving lose for once. That already happened in the series. Superman snapped Batman over his knee, Bane-style. It took Batman over a year to recover. Hell, by the end of the issue from the above image, Superman's standing tall.
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Jan 21, 2015 10:10
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And Superman got shot and then pushed a Guardian and a planet into the Sun, so y'know. Also two pages later in that Injustice: 
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Jan 21, 2015 10:49
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I don't have any problem with how that fight went, but I think Taylor's dialogue would've been more personal and less the cliched (less generously, hackneyed) "I'm a better fighter!"/"This time I'm going ALL-OUT!" stuff.
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Jan 21, 2015 11:20
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McSpanky posted:I don't have any problem with how that fight went, but I think Taylor's dialogue would've been more personal and less the cliched (less generously, hackneyed) "I'm a better fighter!"/"This time I'm going ALL-OUT!" stuff. and therein lies the catch 22 with superman...because he IS normally always holding back.
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Jan 21, 2015 15:12
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Tracula posted:I guess but for once I want Superman vs Batman to go the same way The Mountain vs Oberon did. Someones goddamn skull needs to pop and Batman actually needs to loving lose for once. Batman more or less has to be a more skilled fighter than superman, or whats the point of him? On the other hand, you are right, its a fight thats been done to death. The obvious solution is to just not have those 2 characters fight unless the writer has something new to do/say with the fight. Unfortunately a lot of comic writers cant resist their chance to smash their inner childs action figures together and have batman win.
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Jan 21, 2015 18:32
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We had this discussion not too long ago. The trouble with the reverse outcome is there's no tension in 'Superman vs regular human, human goes smoosh'.
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Jan 21, 2015 18:40
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Gaz-L posted:We had this discussion not too long ago. The trouble with the reverse outcome is there's no tension in 'Superman vs regular human, human goes smoosh'. Has this ever been an outcome in a Superman vs Batman battle? Genuinely curious.
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Jan 21, 2015 19:13
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Ghostpilot posted:Has this ever been an outcome in a Superman vs Batman battle? Genuinely curious. It happened just before Infinite Crisis. Superman was mind-controlled and thought Batman was one of his villains. Batman was horribly injured, though probably not as much as he should have been. Also, if you count it, the first issue of Irredeemable had the Batman knockoff get toasted by the Plutonian's heat vision easily.
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Jan 21, 2015 19:19
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I'm reading Moore's Swamp Thing right now and I made me think of you guys Batman gets in one good sucker punch, then has his rear end handed to him and convinces the mayor to surrender to Swampy's demands
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Jan 21, 2015 19:21
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Cassa posted:And Superman got shot and then pushed a Guardian and a planet into the Sun, so y'know. "... now I'm willing to do whatever it takes!" *punch* edit: I'm sorry, I mean *thwak*
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Jan 21, 2015 19:24
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Gavok posted:It happened just before Infinite Crisis. Superman was mind-controlled and thought Batman was one of his villains. Batman was horribly injured, though probably not as much as he should have been. He was in a hospital bed, a paraplegic having been horribly crushed. The only reason he was ever able to keep being Batman is Wonder Woman went and got a Purple Ray to magically fix him. Though yeah, the argument is that is probably not nearly as bad as he should have been, since it was a Superman who was mindcontrolled into thinking he was fighting Doomsday, Darksied and Brainiac all together.
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Jan 21, 2015 21:52
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Just in case anyone didn't know, the story involves Batman (and uhh, everyone else) getting Supes-equivalent super strength and endurance. That's why he's trading blows with him. He didn't just out-skill him with his mortal muscles.
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Jan 21, 2015 22:10
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Superman jobs to Batman all the time because Batman is the underdog and any other result is Batman getting instantly killed. They fight all the time because it sells.
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I've come to believe that most of the 'Batman roolz, Superman drulz' mindset comes from 'I subconsciously believe that if I had the power of Superman, I would be unable to be anything like Superman, in fact I would most likely be the very opposite of Superman, and by virtue that the human brain has immense difficulty admitting fault, ergo I will come to the wrong conclusion that it is Superman that is wrong, and that he could never behave this way, ergo he is a lesser character because this leads to/justifies X/Y/Z'. It would also explain why they like Batman; Batman is 'human' and completely unfettered, which fits their lust for lack of restraint. You see the same mindset in people who want a zombie apocalypse to happen, as they think they'd be a survivor who'd now be allowed to commit mass slaughter without any guilt.
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Cornwind Evil posted:I've come to believe that most of the 'Batman roolz, Superman drulz' mindset comes from 'I subconsciously believe that if I had the power of Superman, I would be unable to be anything like Superman, in fact I would most likely be the very opposite of Superman, and by virtue that the human brain has immense difficulty admitting fault, ergo I will come to the wrong conclusion that it is Superman that is wrong, and that he could never behave this way, ergo he is a lesser character because this leads to/justifies X/Y/Z'. It would also explain why they like Batman; Batman is 'human' and completely unfettered, which fits their lust for lack of restraint. You see the same mindset in people who want a zombie apocalypse to happen, as they think they'd be a survivor who'd now be allowed to commit mass slaughter without any guilt. That sounds like a hell of a lot of projection, honestly. The Batman>Superman idea is much more easily explained, and has been done so already on this page.
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Cornwind Evil posted:I've come to believe that most of the 'Batman roolz, Superman drulz' mindset comes from 'I subconsciously believe that if I had the power of Superman, I would be unable to be anything like Superman, in fact I would most likely be the very opposite of Superman, and by virtue that the human brain has immense difficulty admitting fault, ergo I will come to the wrong conclusion that it is Superman that is wrong, and that he could never behave this way, ergo he is a lesser character because this leads to/justifies X/Y/Z'. It would also explain why they like Batman; Batman is 'human' and completely unfettered, which fits their lust for lack of restraint. You see the same mindset in people who want a zombie apocalypse to happen, as they think they'd be a survivor who'd now be allowed to commit mass slaughter without any guilt. You would be Bizarro 
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The reason people like Batman vs. Superman fights is because, even though we know Lex Luthor is a villain, deep down we are all more like Lex than we are like Superman and we just want to see the alien get beaten by our obvious human superiority. Anyway, here's another fight from the same issue of Injustice. 
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TwoPair posted:The reason people like Batman vs. Superman fights is because, even though we know Lex Luthor is a villain, deep down we are all more like Lex than we are like Superman and we just want to see the alien get beaten by our obvious human superiority. I suddenly want to know what B.O.O.M. stands for
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Jan 22, 2015 06:19
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Big Ol' Obvious Malapropism.
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Jan 22, 2015 06:26
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TwoPair posted:The reason people like Batman vs. Superman fights is because, even though we know Lex Luthor is a villain, deep down we are all more like Lex than we are like Superman and we just want to see the alien get beaten by our obvious human superiority. Wisdom of Solomon: "What? No, no, you don't have to worry about the JOKER'S GIRLFRIEND pulling any misdirection tricks on you." Captain Marvel: "Hey, thanks!" (B.O.O.M.)
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Mister Mind posted:Wisdom of Solomon: "What? No, no, you don't have to worry about the JOKER'S GIRLFRIEND pulling any misdirection tricks on you." He's on Superman's side right now, so the Wisdom of Solomon seems to be taking a sabbatical anyway.
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Wisdom of Solomon definitely wasn't there when he (game plot spoiler) questioned Superman's methods. Also I like how the sound effect is THOOM.
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