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Any hope for a 960Ti 4GB card for ~$250?
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4GB seems like a stretch. I'd hedge my bets towards one with a 192-bit bus + 3GB VRAM.
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Apparently the 970 GTX series has problems with performance after allocating the last 500mb of video ram. https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/803518/geforce-900-series/gtx-970-3-5gb-vram-issue/post/4430032/#4430032 https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/2s2968/gtx970_memoryvram_allocation_bug/ http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?p=4991040 http://www.overclock.net/t/1535502/gtx-970s-can-only-use-3-5gb-of-4gb-vram-issue http://www.computerbase.de/forum/showthread.php?t=1435408 Rumored to be a hardware problem. gently caress.
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1gnoirents posted:300 watts for the 390x was a big downer for me. So once nvidia incorporates HBM, what appeal will be left? More aggressive pricing is about it All depends on if the rumor mill is right or not. Nvida was said to be skipping 20nm and going straight to 16nm FinFET but TSMC is experiencing delays that could possible push a die shrink for nvida all the way into Q1 or Q2 2016. If AMD comes out with 20nm in 2015 and 14nm FinFET early 2016 we could see things get a lot more interesting.
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floor is lava posted:Apparently the 970 GTX series has problems with performance after allocating the last 500mb of video ram.
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:I'm pretty sure this was discussed when the story broke a week or so ago and most people thought it was a non-issue, or at the time at least not properly investigated yet. Has anyone besides a bunch of random forum posters actually tackled it yet? Ran the test real quick on my 970 GTX: 
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:I'm pretty sure this was discussed when the story broke a week or so ago and most people thought it was a non-issue, or at the time at least not properly investigated yet. Has anyone besides a bunch of random forum posters actually tackled it yet? Not officially. Apparently someone wrote a benchmarking program for the VRAM and compared the 970 to the 980. 
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A MIRACLE posted:So is the 960 the upgrade for me? I'm coming from an old 650 that barely plays Wasteland 2 at 1080p. I only have a 400watt PSU that I really don't wanna go through the trouble of replacing. I play at 1920x1080 in most cases. Basically Stalker CoP and some Sturmovik 1942, but I want to play some GTA5 and a bit of Elite Dangerous. My only caveat is that I'd like to be able to drive an Oculus Rift when they finally come out. I don't know what the resolution on those will be but I'd like to have a playable frame rate on it. Yes, though I'd say your CPU might affect GTA:V performance more than your GPU.
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floor is lava posted:Apparently the 970 GTX series has problems with performance after allocating the last 500mb of video ram. geforce forum poster posted:Nvidia needs to just give everyone a GTX 980 in exchange for their GTX 970 at no additional cost for all the trouble everyone is going through, and for ignoring everyone about a issue that is obvious. Stay classy, random internet dude. 
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Couldn't get Shadow of Mordor to use more than 3.5gb even with the hd pack. Ran another testing tool that managed to allocate the everything but hung my computer p. bad after it hit the 3.5gb mark. isndl posted:Stay classy, random internet dude. Peep this crazy guy: quote:I too am an owner of the 970 chip, precisely the MSI GTX 970 "4Gb" card. I'm currently attending my second year in college and heading into the computer science, software engineering fields where I intend to major. Anyhow, Nvidia breaching their advertised chip statistics kept bothering me all day, so I paid a visit to my dads lawyer after lunch and he told me that if it does in fact turn out that the cards cannot exceed 3.5Gb or live up to the expectations of the given stats by Nvidia, there is room for a lawsuit(s).
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Jan 23, 2015 05:57
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It's pretty interesting. Did NVIDIA think people wouldn't eventually notice? My guess is yes, this is OCZ-level poo poo.
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Jan 23, 2015 07:29
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Whelp, glad I was too broke to get one at launch. Guess I'll hang off upgrading until the problem is worked out.  970ti here we come.
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Found this in the geforce forums thread, posted it over in the PC Building & Parts thread but it's more appropriate here - it seems like the closest thing to a technical explanation so far?quote:From ocnet forum:
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Jan 23, 2015 12:25
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Yeah the 970 has been that magical 192bit/3GB card that everyone is yearning for all along. Just not for 250$ 
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NVIDIA are supposedly looking into it. But this whole thing seems like it was a design decision, and someone is getting worried that the cat's out of the bag.
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I should probably be more concerned about having 500 MB of non functional RAM in my video card than I am, but that still leaves me with a 3.5x upgrade over my past card so eh 
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So how's this going to go? Will there be a mass recall or are Nvidia just going to tell people to deal with it? Because at this point I kind of wish I went with the fairly cheaper yet roughly as powerful given the hardware faults, AMD option.
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HalloKitty posted:NVIDIA are supposedly looking into it. It's fair to mention that post was made 12th January, and still no news. Huh.
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My gut instinct tells me Nvidia probably aren't even going to acknowledge it until it gets bigger than "SA and also some subreddit somewhere".
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Instant Grat posted:My gut instinct tells me Nvidia probably aren't even going to acknowledge it until it gets bigger than "SA and also some subreddit somewhere". It's on pretty much all tech forums now but really it'd be great if some site like Anandtech picked it up.
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Instant Grat posted:My gut instinct tells me Nvidia probably aren't even going to acknowledge it until it gets bigger than "SA and also some subreddit somewhere". Yeah, it's also on the official NVIDIA forums, and they responded there only 15 hours ago, but with absolutely nothing of use. Just "we're looking into it".
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HalloKitty posted:Yeah, it's also on the official NVIDIA forums, and they responded there only 15 hours ago, but with absolutely nothing of use. Reading that thread makes my head hurt. quote:What if they reserved that feature for the 970TI
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HalloKitty posted:Just "we're looking into it".
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Well I for one won't turn down a free 980 upgrade or some cash back.
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cisco privilege posted:something they can bury after selling 1-2 million of the things. It'll likely end up taking quite awhile to get any resolution though - anyone else remember chipgate? a) That's what I'm thinking will happen b) Oh yes, I remember It already seems like something in the 970 driver is generally forcing it to allocate less RAM in DirectX (although not in OpenGL) so it doesn't hit the dodgy spot, although under enough pressure it can allocate more and cause huge stutters. Seen tests where the 980 allocates more under the exact same circumstances. So, a tad suspicious to say the least.
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The issue should only manifest when moving >3.5GB of data at a time. It's not about occupying the memory, but moving it around all at once. Game engines won't be doing that though - it's an issue that'll only appear on synthetic tests.
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Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:The issue should only manifest when moving >3.5GB of data at a time. It's not about occupying the memory, but moving it around all at once. Game engines won't be doing that though - it's an issue that'll only appear on synthetic tests. I'm not so sure about that. It happened when I was just allocating.
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Ill pretend like im mad to get in on a recall but honestly, its owning pretty hard for a broken card. I consistently use 3.5 GB though so perhaps I should be more interested
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I'm in the 'it's still better than what I had' boat as well. Anyone who thinks they're going to do a recall is deluding themselves. Even if this does get to a class action, the most anyone will get would likely be a discount/gift card to use on a new and hopefully non-flawed future card. They aren't going to eat as big of a dick as they did with the faulty mobile chips because the cards still *work* the vast majority of the time, and despite how many 970s they've sold, the number PALES in comparison to the amount of 7xxx/8xxxM parts that were used in OEM boxes - and OEMs are the customers nVidia *actually* cares about, hence their hoop jumping when they were caught having used inferior chipmaking methods. It might be fixable or at least able to be mitigated by dickering around in the BIOS and then filtering the 'fix' out to the AIB companies. That being said - remember when everyone was like "oh poo poo, the 970's like 80-85% the performance of the 980 and they're selling it for $329!!! How's *that* work?" Yeah, well...now we know.
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On one hand, it really sucks that they're being super dishonest to consumers and refuse to acknowledge a problem. On the other, a 970 with 3.5GB of VRAM is still an awesome card. I just hope they put out a driver that locks out the last 500MB on it, so that people who have the card aren't forced to balance VRAM usage in certain games. Hace fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Jan 23, 2015 |
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Welp finally got off my rear end and listed my vast array of video cards that need to be sold. Bring on the new cards that actually improve my games over my 290x.
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Hey all. I broke my ancient gtx260 giving it a clean. Can you recommend a replacement, it only needs to be a slight improvement, enough to run TF2 at 1080p but a little quieter would be good. My system is very old, E8400 cpu on 4 GB with Win7. Thanks 
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ScrotemPole posted:Hey all. This is really one for the parts picking thread, but if you don't want to spend a lot (around $100), and you just want a card that's decent and quiet, a Geforce 750 (or 750 Ti if you can stretch a bit) is the way to go. HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Jan 23, 2015 |
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I'm looking to upgrade from a GTX460 (only 768MB of RAM because I'm a moron, but it has 2x 6-pin connectors so at least my PSU is set...) With the 960 gimped and a budget of preferably under $200...what are my options? Am I limited to only used 600-700 series stuff for nVidia? My main goal is that it not be obsolete for gaming (i.e. it's not below minimum specs) for a few years, even if I have to drop quality/resolution to nigh-unviewable levels, and I'd prefer something quiet. e: i'm going to assume the above answer applies to me too.
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HalloKitty posted:This is really one for the parts picking thread, but if you don't want to spend a lot (around $100), and you just want a card that's decent and quiet, a Geforce 750 (or 750 Ti if you can stretch a bit) is the way to go. Cool, thanks.
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oldskool posted:I'm looking to upgrade from a GTX460 (only 768MB of RAM because I'm a moron, but it has 2x 6-pin connectors so at least my PSU is set...) edit: I spent around $200 shipped for my 290, but I'd doubt any custom-cooled models can be found around that price now even used. future ghost fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Jan 23, 2015 |
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Are there any good products/guides that I can use/follow to help diagnose a hardware problem with a GPU? I just moved overseas, and the computer came across via freight and I'm afraid the trip damaged the GPU. The computer works fine for normal use, but when I try to play anything that would actually hit the card, it's incredibly slow and choppy. This is a new PC I built before moving, and it worked great before the move. This weekend I'm free and want to try to fix the problem if I can, but since everything works pretty well I'm a little stuck on where I should start trying to troubleshoot the issue. I'd rather not go buy a new card, since I think I'd have to sell a kidney to afford one in Bermuda.
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War Eagle posted:Are there any good products/guides that I can use/follow to help diagnose a hardware problem with a GPU? Check all the connectors, unplug and replug everything in. Check the fans make sure they are spinning at the proper speed. Run a CPU/GPU temp monitoring program. If the issue persists post in the Haus of tech support sub forum. http://forums.somethingawful.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=170
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