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Is everything in your area that expensive? Those rx-7s are as old as I am.
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There are plenty of options that aren't that expensive, but also look like someone dragged them through a rust grinder and yelled, :"HEY JEB, LOOKITDIS" and threw it over a cliff a few times. Like this one! http://carbondale.craigslist.org/cto/4797019407.html "CUSTOM-MADE WIDEBODY KIT BUY NOW!" fishception fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Jan 23, 2015 |
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Jan 23, 2015 17:22
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Sperglord Firecock posted:
 I think you found the person that built the bathroom in my house.
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cursedshitbox posted:
I think he found something made in the bathroom at my house.
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Uhh yeah don't get an RX. Those are cars for people that are already experienced with working on cars.
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Here is a helpful list Things you should not buy: Any BMW Any Mazda older than 1995 Any Nissan (deal with it haters) Any Mitsubishi Things you should buy: Honda Civic Honda Prelude Impreza RS Mustang GT Volvo 240 Lexus IS300 Ford Probe Escort ZX2 Acura Integra Volkswagen Golf
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leica posted:Jesus Christ shut up. He needs an E30 like he needs a hole in his loving head. revmoo posted:Things you should not buy: Disagreeing with this. E30s are dead nuts simple and reliable. They make great first cars. The only reason you shouldn't buy one is price. They have a following and their cost is representative of that. If you can find a cheap one that isn't haggered to gently caress, jump on it because you'll love it. Edit: Unless you mean "Don't buy one because you'll destroy it" 
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The ad for that Starion actually states "you have to unhook the battery when you're done driving." Dude, don't. Just. Don't. Seriously, Sperg, as a native southern Illinoisan, don't buy anything Japanese pre-2005 from anywhere south of Troy. If it shows as anywhere in Illinois south of STL, chances are it's been used, abused, and left out to rot. You're still going to need to know what to look for for rust, especially since the winters there have been salt-heavy since 2010, but now you'll have a lot of people angry at you for checking because they don't want you seeing how rusty it actually is, or they honestly don't know how rusty it is and will get mad when you push through the tissue paper that used to be a floor pan. And it'll all more than likely be undercarriage rust, as well. Not as much as you'd get up here near Chicago but you'll still easily find cars auditioning for the next Flintstone mobile. Go west, go south. For $2500-$3000 you'll get a much better car out there than you will in the Rust Belt, trust me. And yeah, don't get an RX. Mine's still half-mystifying to me and I've got a lot more experience with cars than you do. And you especially don't want one when you're still learning to drive stick. Sperg buy the Corvair
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Professor Bling posted:Sperg buy the Corvair Only if I can get the pirate flag in the background too. Honest opinion, how bad is that Corvair?
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Jan 23, 2015 19:31
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You know jack and dick about cars. Buy a loving toaster car and play some Gran Turismo.
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Forget it, actually you really need to buy a '93 RX-7.
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Don't buy a starion, I can't think of a car with more turbo lag and a more underwhelming delivery. I had a starion phase for a while and I'm telling you: don't do it, they're slow as poo poo and a lot of work. Super cool looking cars though. revmoo posted:Here is a helpful list Yeah don't listen to this guy. Prelude? Is300? Teggys? a loving Ford Probe? There's no way this can be a real serious post. This has to be a troll because there's a few actual serious & good recommendations sprinkled in (volvo 240, mustang gt, don't buy a mitsubishi, don't buy [most] nissans) rscott posted:The first three are poverty spec etas or an automatic convertible, literally the least desirable e30s besides the other one you linked, an m10 318i! Sport seats in good condition can easily run $200 each. Medium case LSDs run $400. Quite a few of those cars wouldn't make the trek back to Chicago in their current condition, so add another $800-$1k to get out trailered home (better hope the driver isn't tweaked out and doesn't gently caress your car up!), or pay someone out there to fix it who has you over a barrel. This guy doesn't know e30's. Shell and paint condition mean everything and specs/options mean gently caress-all. The poverty spec e30's are the best ones. Tan sport seats are like $50-100 tops and I see them given away for free regularly, nobody wants them. I was baked at 4am and thought that vert was a manual though, gently caress. That one actually looked p decent too. Again though, those weren't "hey buy this e30" links for op, they were just examples that you can buy an e30 and have a couple thousand dollars budget to fix it for the price of a 2001 camry with 200 thousand miles on it. HEY VAPER fucked around with this message at 20:06 on Jan 23, 2015 |
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revmoo posted:Here is a helpful list Do it nerd. Buy the shitbbox http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/cto/4854486055.html http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/4850008946.html http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/cto/4855917699.html http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/cto/4853702425.html
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A stock, unfucked with mustang gt wouldn't be a half bad idea if you can find one, they're fun + dead simple + cheap parts + sky's the limit aftermarket for pretty much every bodystyle.
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The 94-00 mustang gts are going for peanuts right now. Seriously a decent one is going for 3-5k, plenty fast, and the 94-95 came with the 5.slow and the later models had the 4.6.
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leica posted:Jesus Christ shut up. He needs an E30 like he needs a hole in his loving head. I can't loving agree with this enough.
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Lightbulb Out posted:I can't loving agree with this enough. Maybe if he had a hole or two in his head, he would have listened to our advice in the first place re: 300zx Mustang gt is probably the best balance between OP's desire for a rwd manual sports car, and something he can't possibly gently caress up. And they look good with louvers............. HEY VAPER fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Jan 23, 2015 |
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Mustang Miata Any impreza or an appliance car Skip the 80s weeaboo poo poo and get something that is well documented and runs with a relatively simple and bulletproof driveline. He really doesn't have the aptitude or motivation to deal with old or weird poo poo.
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Slow is Fast posted:Skip the 80s weeaboo poo poo and get something that is well documented and runs with a relatively simple and bulletproof driveline. I agree with this. I made the mistake of buying and working on less popular vehicles with almost every non-Jeep vehicle purchase I've made. Owning a vehicle with a large enthusiast community and lots of aftermarket parts makes a huge difference.
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Remember all those boring cars we listed off earlier in the thread when you were talking about a winter beater so you wouldn't risk driving this beautiful piece of automotive art? Go back and buy one of those or something like them and cut your teeth on changing the fluids and maintaining a running car first. You are the last person on the planet at this point that should buy anything sports-ish from the 80s or 90s until you have a decent handle on at least some basic wrenching.
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I don't understand why people are anti-E30? They're good cars, pretty easy to work on, and well supported. What's the issue?
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InitialDave posted:I don't understand why people are anti-E30? They're good cars, pretty easy to work on, and well supported. What's the issue? Because E30s are overpriced.
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InitialDave posted:I don't understand why people are anti-E30? They're good cars, pretty easy to work on, and well supported. What's the issue? pretty easy to work on pretty easy to work on that involves the OP working on his car.
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InitialDave posted:I don't understand why people are anti-E30? They're good cars, pretty easy to work on, and well supported. What's the issue? I'm not anti E30 I'm anti telling someone who knows jack poo poo about them to fly 1500 miles to the pnw to buy a sketchy one and then drive it back, especially when they're quoting circa 2008 prices for everything
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rscott posted:I'm not anti E30 I'm anti telling someone who knows jack poo poo about them to fly 1500 miles to the pnw to buy a sketchy one and then drive it back, especially when they're quoting circa 2008 prices for everything Isn't that blanket for all cars, though?
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cursedshitbox posted:
Patience, shitbox. Sperge is willing to work.
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InitialDave posted:I don't understand why people are anti-E30? They're good cars, pretty easy to work on, and well supported. What's the issue? Because those posters don't know anything about e30's and lump them in with the maintanence/reliability reputation of more modern bmw's? I'm dead serious with the recommendation and I think it's both a car that would make OP happy, and a great babby's first car. Half the cars he's looking at have 80's/90's era turbos, I think it's a fair compromise to recommend a car that's sporty but naturally aspirated. Let's see, the e30 is dead simple to wrench on, the vast majority of the car can be disassembled with the supplied tool kit, indestructible iron block i6 vs all the turbocharged stuff OP wants to buy, literally any job he could ever want to do probably already has a play by play writeup with pictures on r3v/e30tech/etc. Outside of the mustang gt recommendation it really doesn't get more straightforward if OP is going to buy a sports car. Miata too but after thinking about it, OP's probably too big of a guy to enjoy driving a miata, I can guarantee he'd hate it. Outside of european parts costs and maybe 1 or 2 common pain in the rear end jobs like the flex disc, an e30 is just as easy for OP to wrench on as a camry. The same people telling him not to buy an e30 are recommending cars like the is300 and prelude. Just think about that for a second. The vast majority of cars being recommended or posted by OP are significantly less reliable, more difficult to work on, and specifically have a lot more electronic woes than an e30 would, but for some reason he's supposed to write off the e30 because he wouldn't be able to handle maintaining it? I agree with the overpriced argument 100%. If OP isn't willing to wait a month or two for an untaxed unfucked e30 to pop up he should buy a mustang gt or something instead. Untaxed good e30's exist in the PNW, they just sell quick so you have to be looking. Oregon's full of aging old people who own clean, stock, maintained e30's and don't have a clue what they're worth. Also I already posted that I would inspect any car he wants to buy near Seattle for free, and I think someone in Portland might have said the same thing. Can guarantee I wouldn't set him up with a lovely car. But seriously sperglord, whatever you do, buy something simple and naturally aspirated. HEY VAPER fucked around with this message at 22:30 on Jan 23, 2015 |
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Indestructible except if you overheat them which is really easy to do because god drat cooling system, they're timing belt driven interference motors etc But hey what do I know about E30s I just drove one for years while doing all my own maintenance
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My suggestion is now to buy the newest Celica you can find. It's a perfect car. Sporty-looking, easy to work on, comfortable, reliable, mechanically tough and relatively inexpensive. The last generations are fairly resistant to corrosion as opposed to previous cars too.
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HEY VAPER posted:whatever you do, buy something simple and naturally aspirated. E30. Miata. Mustang GT. These were the cars chosen to create the perfect little projects But Professor Sperglord accidentally added an extra ingredient to the concoction -- Chemical FeO2 Thus, the PowderFrame Cars were born! Using their ultra-passive weight reduction, they've dedicated their frames to fighting reliability and the forces of induction!
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rscott posted:Indestructible except if you overheat them which is really easy to do because god drat cooling system, they're timing belt driven interference motors etc Yeah but if OP can literally do one thing (inspect the cooling system when he buys the car, replace anything that's broken with oem parts, budget refreshing cooling system into initial cost of car) there isn't much else he can gently caress up. And if he does manage to gently caress the motor up, low mileage m20's are dirt cheap and it's child's play to swap a m20 into a m20. ^^^ Celica also a good recommendation, I just never really see good ones for sale so I didn't think to mention them. Worth adding to your craigslist search list though.
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Seat Safety Switch posted:My suggestion is now to buy the newest Celica you can find. It's a perfect car. Sporty-looking, easy to work on, comfortable, reliable, mechanically tough and relatively inexpensive. Perhaps you can answer this question as it has been irritating me. Why is the RSX Type-S a good $3000-4000 more expensive than the Celica GTS? The Sentra SE-R Spec V's lower price makes more sense because of the notorious catalytic converter failures throwing chunks of metal into the cylinders. Is it the usual case of less aftermarket availability for the Toyota vehicle? Is it the oil consumption issues of the 2ZZ-GE?
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Extra posted:Perhaps you can answer this question as it has been irritating me. Why is the RSX Type-S a good $3000-4000 more expensive than the Celica GTS? The Sentra SE-R Spec V's lower price makes more sense because of the notorious catalytic converter failures throwing chunks of metal into the cylinders. Is it the usual case of less aftermarket availability for the Toyota vehicle? Is it the oil consumption issues of the 2ZZ-GE? Boys drive RSXes.
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HEY VAPER posted:Maybe if he had a hole or two in his head, he would have listened to our advice in the first place re: 300zx If you watched the op's video of him driving the nissan you can see that he doesn't actually know how to drive standard. He just revs to 2k and dumps the clutch. He needs something that doesn't have enough torque to let him cheat so he can actually learn how to use a clutch. i learned on the mr2 in a parking lot until I got an idea of how to feather the friction point. OP you should look through InitialDave's posts because he made a perfect summary on how to drive a manual.
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TWSS posted:If you watched the op's video of him driving the nissan you can see that he doesn't actually know how to drive standard. He just revs to 2k and dumps the clutch. He needs something that doesn't have enough torque to let him cheat so he can actually learn how to use a clutch. i learned on the mr2 in a parking lot until I got an idea of how to feather the friction point. Or instead of basing the car he buys off of the fact that he doesn't know how to drive manual yet (which will last for a couple of months tops depending on how much he drives/how much city driving he does etc) he could go walk on to a lovely used car lot and test drive any random shitbox he sees with a manual, the shittier and slower the better. Or he'll just learn naturally in a few months anyways. We've all been there. Bolding that so Sperglord reads it and does exactly that, before he buys a new car. Mustang gt would be a bit easymode, but I think an eta or something would be just enough low end torque to not be so forgiving, but be forgiving enough that he can feel confident he won't roll into someone's car on a hill. Thing to note though, is that e30's have like double the clutch throw of most cars, which kind of forces you to learn where the bite point is etc. It's a pretty common occurrence for people who have been driving a stick their whole life to stall my e30 the first time they have a go at it. HEY VAPER fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Jan 23, 2015 |
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How many pages did it take to get this guy to replace his negative terminal? He already has a basket case. Let's start with something that's in good shape first. In a lot of cases that is not an E30. If he finds a good one in that price, jump on it. But as someone who owns two, it's not something I recommend to someone without a lot more resources than Sperglord has.
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This thread is such a cluster gently caress. The op should not be driving anything other than an appliance because he's not good at cars.
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leica posted:This thread is such a cluster gently caress. The op should not be driving anything other than an appliance because he's not good at cars. C5 Corvette
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leica posted:This thread is such a cluster gently caress. The op should not be driving anything other than an appliance because he's not good at cars. I think this sentiment is wrong. He's not good at cars, but he wants to get good at cars. Buying an interesting beater (i.e. 80s or 90s cheap fast car that isn't a total basket case) makes a lot of sense in this case.
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Safety Dance posted:I think this sentiment is wrong. He's not good at cars, but he wants to get good at cars. Buying an interesting beater (i.e. 80s or 90s cheap fast car that isn't a total basket case) makes a lot of sense in this case. No, he should make some friends with people who work on their own cars and not work on his own primary transport vehicle.
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