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Cyberball 2072 posted:I think there's promise in a longer story aboard a derelict Star Destroyer like in the beginning of the book but they drop that real fast. That's what got me about the book, I was getting into it, then BAM! Han and Chewie. I just wanted a nice little side story about stormtrooper zombies and random no-name characters that can get killed off or zombified.
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Death Troopers takes forever to actually get going. It starts off normal then it becomes the WAR Z Brad Pitt version and random Han and Chewie. It spends way too long describing "fear/horror". Then the whole thing is left poorly resolved and Han forgets the whole thing ever happened. Could have been good, but meh.
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Aside from zombies in general being well played out by now (are there even zombies? everyone is sick and dead but no zombies yet) it's like two big missed opportunities. Instead of being storm troopers vs. zombies which could be dumb fun, the book kills everyone but Han, Chewie, a doctor and some kids, so by the time the zombies do show up all the storm troopers are dead so no fun storm troopers freaking the gently caress out at zombies scenes, and there's that bit about the derelict Star Destroyer that starts the whole mess which would be a fun book on it's own, buncha Imperials making their way through an abandoned giant ship, guys going around corners and disappearing, creepy poo poo in the bio-lab, wholesale ripping off the thing and maybe evil dead. But nope, instead we got a book that at one point has a line something like "the doctor could smell the familiar copper tinge of her own fear"
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Jan 23, 2015 10:04
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TOILETLORD posted:better art than most 80's battletech and 70's starwars Well yeah, Sonoda owns.
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Jan 23, 2015 11:06
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Do non English-speaking Star Wars fans have dumb fights over watching the movies with subtitles vs dubbing (the same way weebs have dumb fights over watching anime subtitles or dubbed)?
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Light Gun Man posted:these are battletech books from japan That's not the art for Battletech in Japan. That's the Mechwarrior siderules (why it says Battletech Roleplay underneath the kanji in katakana). Also, it's probably why there's a heavy emphasis on characters than mecha. This is Japanese Battletech...  That said, whoever got some good and popular artists at the time to do those books. Studio Nue for the main book and Kenichi Sonoda for the Mechwarrior rules.
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The new Rebels episode was pretty fun, Billy Dee Williams deserves more work. Hopefully Lando will become a recurring character
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Cyberball 2072 posted:I'll 2nd it, read last time I was between jobs, nothing better to do than read free star wars books from the library. Much better written than the film and actually fleshed out a lot of the story. You should move somewhere with a better funded public library program imo.
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Thanks Disney for torpedoing the EU before we got to the ATM machine that suddenly became force-sensitive and, sensing how important Han would be to the Rebellion wouldn't let him withdraw his money to pay back Jabba, eventually forcing him to ferry some space hobos to Alderaan.
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Lord of Pie posted:Thanks Disney for torpedoing the EU before we got to the ATM machine that suddenly became force-sensitive and, sensing how important Han would be to the Rebellion wouldn't let him withdraw his money to pay back Jabba, eventually forcing him to ferry some space hobos to Alderaan. We'll still get that when the new EU goes full circle in 10 years or so. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Energizer_Bunny quote:The Energizer Bunny was a male and was a member of a lagomorph-like Species that used an Energizer battery to keep going and going. Sometime during the Galactic Civil War, the Energizer Bunny's presence in the Force was so strong that it registered on the sensors of the Star Dreadnought Executor—a remarkable occurrence, given that detecting the Force generally required very specialized equipment such as a Force detector. Despite this, it is apparent that Vader only took action with regard to this matter after Emperor Palpatine ordered Vader to "get his battery" after sensing the "great disturbance in the Force" caused by the Energizer Bunny.[1]
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freethought posted:You should move somewhere with a better funded public library program imo. I'm certain they had better stuff, it's more likely my taste that's suspect.
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Fetus Tree posted:drat a story about a derelict destroyer sounds pretty cool too Republic Commando had a mission taking place on a derelict republic cruiser similar in appearance to the star destroyer. That level was bad rear end as hell, it had dead jedi, Trandoshan mercs and a last alamo moment in the docking bays when the trade federation send in their droid armies.
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Republic Commandos biggest problem as a game is that it doesn't have an ending. The story just kind of stops without any conclusion.
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Cyberball 2072 posted:Aside from zombies in general being well played out by now (are there even zombies? everyone is sick and dead but no zombies yet) it's like two big missed opportunities. Instead of being storm troopers vs. zombies which could be dumb fun, the book kills everyone but Han, Chewie, a doctor and some kids, so by the time the zombies do show up all the storm troopers are dead so no fun storm troopers freaking the gently caress out at zombies scenes, and there's that bit about the derelict Star Destroyer that starts the whole mess which would be a fun book on it's own, buncha Imperials making their way through an abandoned giant ship, guys going around corners and disappearing, creepy poo poo in the bio-lab, wholesale ripping off the thing and maybe evil dead. But nope, instead we got a book that at one point has a line something like "the doctor could smell the familiar copper tinge of her own fear" That should have been the story: just a group of storm troopers fighting zombies including like a wookie zombie.
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Young Freud posted:That's not the art for Battletech in Japan. That's the Mechwarrior siderules (why it says Battletech Roleplay underneath the kanji in katakana). Also, it's probably why there's a heavy emphasis on characters than mecha. I'm a Sonoda nerd, not a Battletech nerd, so I don't know the intricacies. My apologies.
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Seriously, if you have any interest in reading a star wars book (God help you), the novelization of Revenge of the Sith is fantastic. It's leagues better than the movie, though of course following the same story. But there's a lot more in the novelization and that difference adds up to a lot. Plus, inner monologues add a lot of depth that is not present in the movie.
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redshirt posted:Seriously, if you have any interest in reading a star wars book (God help you), the novelization of Revenge of the Sith is fantastic. It's leagues better than the movie, though of course following the same story. But there's a lot more in the novelization and that difference adds up to a lot. Plus, inner monologues add a lot of depth that is not present in the movie. it follows the same stor, sure,y but stover altered all of the dialogue and cut out, like, half the film and fiddled with a lot of subplots. it actually becomes a cool story, focused purely on the falling out between anakin and obi-wan, the former's turn to the dark side, and goes into detail how the jedi order failed to account for sidious' methods on a level beyond 'the dark side clouds us' or a CD-esque commentary on how the prequels are a 'deconstruction'. it's kind of strange how lucas allowed it to be published when it is so different and, ultimately, superior to the movie it was based off
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Milky Moor posted:it follows the same stor, sure,y but stover altered all of the dialogue and cut out, like, half the film and fiddled with a lot of subplots. it actually becomes a cool story, focused purely on the falling out between anakin and obi-wan, the former's turn to the dark side, and goes into detail how the jedi order failed to account for sidious' methods on a level beyond 'the dark side clouds us' or a CD-esque commentary on how the prequels are a 'deconstruction'. ROTS film falls short because it felt like Lucas forgot to concludes the Vader story , it felt rushed, more like " Oh poo poo, everybody is dead, Anakin is not vader yet!" . Pre suit Vader lasted only about 30 minutes in the entire film. Once Vader got burned, the viewers never got to feel the impact and tragedy of his downfall, it was like " ok he is injuried, let's throw the suit in" . It felt as if there was no consequences for Vader's actions , it was as if he was just.....there.
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Milky Moor posted:it follows the same stor, sure,y but stover altered all of the dialogue and cut out, like, half the film and fiddled with a lot of subplots. it actually becomes a cool story, focused purely on the falling out between anakin and obi-wan, the former's turn to the dark side, and goes into detail how the jedi order failed to account for sidious' methods on a level beyond 'the dark side clouds us' or a CD-esque commentary on how the prequels are a 'deconstruction'. What did Stover cut out of the book that was included in the movie? The best part of the book for me is how convincing Anakin's turn becomes and how Palpatine uses Amidala to make it happen - by both insinuating that Obi-Wan might be getting with her, and also that Padme is a leader of the nascent Rebellion, in direct opposition to Anakin. He also uses her impending death to turn Anakin fully against the Jedi, since the Jedi won't let him access the secret holocrons available only to jedi masters.
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redshirt posted:What did Stover cut out of the book that was included in the movie? notably, the battle of kashyyk http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars_Episode_III:_Revenge_of_the_Sith_(novel)#Notable_differences_between_the_movie_and_the_novel
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Milky Moor posted:notably, the battle of kashyyk Oh yeah. Cool.
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Milky Moor posted:notably, the battle of kashyyk Actually, the book is much worse. My evidence: quote:Battle of CoruscantEdit
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Iseeyouseemeseeyou posted:Actually, the book is much worse. My evidence: hello, transphobia? mods!
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Yeah, "female programming". What, so it is kind and nurturing and bears little droid babies? That is evidently a thing in the Disney EU now, unfortunately. Chopper is listed as having "masculine programming", which I guess means he is an irredeemable psychopath that derives joy from inflicting as much pain on people as possible
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StashAugustine posted:hello, transphobia? mods! uh my posts are transnegroid half-numale posterkin, please respect my posts identities Iseeyouseemeseeyou fucked around with this message at 22:18 on Jan 24, 2015 |
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It turns out Alan Moore wrote Star Wars comics...their certainly a thing. Blind Fury quote:A young Luke Skywalker is training with a remote while blinded, imagining he is in hell, attacked by beasts, with his X-Wing on automatic pilot when suddenly he gets a distress transmission from a woman, only hearing the words 'Garn' and 'tower' before the signal degenerated into a battle of static.   Dark Lord's Conscience quote:On the planet Cheelit, Darth Vader accepts an invitation to a game of Firepath from the ruler Dhol. During the match the Dark Lord reveals he was also challenged by the Guild of Vindicators to another game of wits, believing they wish to kill him. Meanwhile, outside the Hive Palace, two stormtroopers stand guard against any trouble. Clat the Shamer appears from the night startling the two troopers. Before either of the troopers can fire at the mysterious shape, Clat used his powers as an empath to drive first one trooper, and then the other insane with the guilt of their past deeds.   Tilotny Throws a Shape quote:After being forced to land on an unidentified planet, Princess Leia Organa tries to escape from pursuing Imperial troops. She stumbles upon the remains of some Imperial stormtroopers that had been lying there for thousands of years. Meanwhile, a spirit called Tilotny "throws a shape" and is followed by three more spirits. Leia soon meets them, along with three stormtroopers. Tilotny decides to play with them, and kills one stormtrooper by turning him into a diamond. After that she turns Leia's heart into a diamond too and mixes the remaining stormtroopers together. After being tired from playing, Tilotny leaves the spirit called Splendid Ap to restore everything to normal. Splendid Ap revives the four beings, but not being aware of the concept of time, mistakenly places the stormtroopers eight thousand years in the past. It was the remains of these stormtroopers that Leia discovered.    I love how "Un-Star-Wars-like" these are, their like something out of '80's Vertigo Comics.
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dog buttz posted:It was an alias to avoid detection by the empire. You see, if they heard Obi-Wan Kenobi was living near a guy named Luke Skywalker, they may become suspicious. Ben Kenobi living near a guy named Luke Skywalker? Nothing suspicious about that! I thought it was a local mangling of Obi-Wan. Bi-wan. Bin. Ben.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:I thought it was a local mangling of Obi-Wan. Bi-wan. Bin. Ben. did you really think this
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Fetus Tree posted:did you really think this It's the Clark Kent's glasses of disguises.
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Nckdictator posted:It turns out Alan Moore wrote Star Wars comics...their certainly a thing. Jedi's Ladder
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Any major lorenerds know stuff about Stargate EU? I wanna know if it's just as bad.
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Light Gun Man posted:Any major lorenerds know stuff about Stargate EU? I wanna know if it's just as bad. Stargate EU is like, Stargate Universe. So its meh but not star wars insanity.
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kingcom posted:Stargate EU is like, Stargate Universe. So its meh but not star wars insanity. Well I mean there are novels and audiobooks and comics and poo poo, there has to be something dumb. Or maybe something that deals with those Traveler dudes from Atlantis those guys were fuckin cool.
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Light Gun Man posted:Well I mean there are novels and audiobooks and comics and poo poo, there has to be something dumb. The worst stargate thing is the one episode with the mongolians who kill women if they look at men directly in the eyes. So i dont know if their extra stuff can be worse.
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kingcom posted:The worst stargate thing is the one episode with the mongolians who kill women if they look at men directly in the eyes. So i dont know if their extra stuff can be worse. Nah, the worst Stargate thing is where they think Macguyver is an adequate replacement for Kurt 'Jack 'Snake 'Mac' Plisken' Burton' Russell or that any human being who has ever existed is capable of adequately replicating the experience that is James Spader. Also adding a woman and a black dude. Kudos for making the black dude into some hinky noble savage archetype though. But shame on you for making the woman smart and tough. Presumably this is continually undermined in some way, I dunno I don't watch fanfic crap Devlin or die mo'fucka..
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Light Gun Man posted:Any major lorenerds know stuff about Stargate EU? I wanna know if it's just as bad. Roland Emmerich threw a hissy fit when MGM decided to make a show instead of a new movie and he approved a book series that followed the original movie and contradicts everything in the show. Listening to Roland Emmerich talk about Stargate he really seems like he doesn't understand storytelling. For him that Stargate was only going to exist on the 2 planets, Ra was the last of a mysterious alien race, and a couple of other dumb things that thankfully got completely ignored by the SG1 writing staff, who in turn created the entire premise for the show from literally just "Stargate goes whoooosh!". And there's the run of the mill crap books/comics you get with any franchise. The only notable one is the story they planned for Atlantis if it didn't get cancelled where Atlantis returns to were it was because of a bomb or something the Ancients built into the city. kingcom posted:The worst stargate thing is the one episode with the mongolians who kill women if they look at men directly in the eyes. So i dont know if their extra stuff can be worse. Funny story, the woman who wrote that also wrote the insanely racist Star Trek episode about the African tribal planet. On a whole, long running TV shows don't get the kind of terrible EU book stuff like Star Wars did. Once the new movie canon starts I'm sure there will be a new series covering what happens after said movies by the same poo poo writers who ran the EU into the ground. pentyne fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Jan 25, 2015 |
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