VitalSigns posted:

Uh, for this analogy to work, your friend would actually have to believe that a cabal of Jews holds the world's power.

QwertyAsher posted:

It could be that, or it would require his friend to believe white men aren't the people with the most power in society

Salvor_Hardin posted:

C'mon man, we were good friends. Don't make me unfollow you.

The Dark One posted:

And the best part is, they're doing this in retaliation a plugin that substitutes "SJW" and "hipster" for "skeleton" and "goblin."

Absurd Alhazred posted:

That's the only thing that could possibly make Reddit readable, to be honest.

The Dark One posted:

And the best part is, they're doing this in retaliation a plugin that substitutes "skeleton" and "hipster" for "skeleton" and "goblin."

AlliedBiscuit posted:

Good lord do a lot of internet manbabies hate Anita Sarkeesian. I mean they really really HATE her. It blows my mind.

Twelve by Pies posted:

It's incredible how much hate she gets even from people that seem otherwise reasonable. I know a guy from another site who's very liberal, thinks everyone in Gamergate is a bunch of stupid sexist shitheads, and he still went off on how Anita Sarkeesian is dumb and terrible and should stop making videos (while saying that anyone who gives her death/rape threats is even worse). It kind of took me by surprise because unless you buy into the whole Gamergate mentality what else is left to hate her for?

Twelve by Pies posted:

It's incredible how much hate she gets even from people that seem otherwise reasonable. I know a guy from another site who's very liberal, thinks everyone in Gamergate is a bunch of stupid sexist shitheads, and he still went off on how Anita Sarkeesian is dumb and terrible and should stop making videos (while saying that anyone who gives her death/rape threats is even worse). It kind of took me by surprise because unless you buy into the whole Gamergate mentality what else is left to hate her for?

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VitalSigns posted:

Uh, for this analogy to work, your friend would actually have to believe that a cabal of Jews holds the world's power.

Salvor_Hardin posted:

C'mon man, we were good friends. Don't make me unfollow you.

Twelve by Pies posted:

It's incredible how much hate she gets even from people that seem otherwise reasonable. I know a guy from another site who's very liberal, thinks everyone in Gamergate is a bunch of stupid sexist shitheads, and he still went off on how Anita Sarkeesian is dumb and terrible and should stop making videos (while saying that anyone who gives her death/rape threats is even worse). It kind of took me by surprise because unless you buy into the whole Gamergate mentality what else is left to hate her for?

darthbob88 posted:

My buddy is extremely critical of her and her ghostwriter, mostly because they're colossal shits regrettably often. Most recently, he said in response to the Charlie Hebdo attack that he does not stand with Charlie, because he doesn't approve of using his free speech to mock the marginalized in society. As nice as it is to have a woman giving feminist perspective on video games, can we get a different feminist?

Duke Igthorn posted:

Yeah, if only she, AND HER GHOSTWRITER, had taken the view that sometimes it's ok to punch down at minorities, if you're only joking even though you're reinforcing popular opinion, everything would be wonderful and beautiful.

RagnarokAngel posted:

It's never ok. It's also never ok to murder people for expressing their opinions. Losing face or their job is all fine but actual people were killed. Some not even involved directly in the cartoons.

Popular Thug Drink posted:

I can't take it anymore. I have to do, what I believe is right. I'm willing to STAND UP and say, out loud, in public, that it is NOT ok to murder people. I hope that as more people join me in saying that murder is NEVER alright, that we can have a positive impact on the murder rate. Thank You.

Chosen One posted:

Killing is wrong. And bad. There should be a new, stronger word for killing. Like badwrong, or badong. Yes, killing is badong. From this moment, I will stand for the opposite of killing: gnodab.

Dr. Killjoy posted:

I'll concede, her videos are kind of Feminist 101 sorta stuff and not really thought provoking but your friend seems to be really sensitive to a lady on the internet having opinions (even if he himself thinks Gamergate is dum.

Hilbert Spaceship posted:

You guys suck at reading. He said his friend said he didn't stand with Charlie Hebdo for those reasons, not Anita.

Popular Thug Drink posted:

I can't take it anymore. I have to do, what I believe is right. I'm willing to STAND UP and say, out loud, in public, that it is NOT ok to murder people. I hope that as more people join me in saying that murder is NEVER alright, that we can have a positive impact on the murder rate. Thank You.

Ben Has Tiny Weenus posted:

Is there anything I can say, after linking a dozen cited legit sources, to someone who continues to defend the crusades as righteous and the inquisition as something that people opted for because it was less harsh than normal Spanish court? I made the mistake of touching the poop in the politics section of a football forum I frequent. I am assuming that this guy is a lost cause?

Literally The Worst posted:

Here's my issue with the "They're very Feminism 101 For Dummies" thing: They're supposed ot be that. They're literally meant to introduce basic concepts to people utterly unfamiliar with them.

Also re: Liam Neeson and Taken: The Taken movies, for being made largely by Europeans, are actually incredibly American in that they're about white people from the US rampaging through foreign countries with no consequences. The second one features a pretty white girl blindly throwing grenades out a window and blowing up a bunch of infrastructure (so that Liam Neeson can hear the explosions and figure out how far away they are) and nothing happens because it's a pretty white girl and the people getting blown up are vaguely brown.

ErIog posted:

Yeah, the internet was definitely pissed off about her in anticipation of her future opinions on a thing that wouldn't happen until many months later. Also, pointing out that maybe the Charlie Hebdo stuff was pretty racist is not really that lovely of an opinion. The only reason anybody got on board with the Charlie Hebdo stuff was because it was critical of muslims. If it was drawings of hook-nosed jews, and the place was shot up by psycho rabbis nobody would be taking the line on it that they are. It's political opportunism as far as the eye can see because Islamophobia is popular in western countries.

The specific poo poo in Charlie Hebdo was racist, and coming from their position within French society it was totally punching down. The "free speech" narrative being pushed is only being used to deflect responsibility for agreeing with a bunch of racist images. It's completely disingenuous. The right wing loving hated Charlie Hebdo, and weren't talking about free speech at all when they were taking on more powerful figures.

Now that a tragedy has happened they get to run around saying, "Well, you know, I don't completely agree 100% with all the cartoons, but by god, you know, FREE SPEECH!" It's a loving dog whistle.

RagnarokAngel posted:

It's entirely logical to condemn the cartoons for their content but also not wish they be loving murdered.

Duke Igthorn posted:

That's probably the best metaphor for America ever

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Actually you are entirely mistaken. You can either read the whole thread about it here, or go to this helpful website to get a better context for their satire. They are of the staunchest anti-racist newspapers in France, and I'm sick of anglo-american "leftists" simply accepting the line that they were racists because they take their caricatures at face value. You might as well call Colbert or the Onion racist.

Crain posted:

In the end none of this is going to change (speaking in regards to GamerGate/Feminist Frequency) until the internet, by which I mean 15-30 year old white male "nerds", get's over it's obscene attachment to offense as the highest paragon of humor. The thing I'm noticing is that society in general is becoming less and less accepting of the idea of "punching down" and thus there are fewer and fewer targets for offensive humor. So these poor bastards who were raised on South Park and learned that insulting literally anyone and everyone is the best way to be funny (and that also means you can't get in trouble because offending everyone is ok) are finding out that, actually, there are some limits when it comes to social discourse. So while you can still say anything you want, there are fewer places where you won't get poo poo for it.

There's also the general idea that "nerds" are the perpetual victims, as if this were "Revenge of the Nerds", so calling them out for being assholes doesn't make sense since they're discriminated against AS WELL! WHAT PRIVILEGE!?

Poizen Jam posted:

Even South Park pulled a 180 as of the last couple seasons, and seems to be treating some things as just not worth making fun of. I was particularly taken aback by The Cissy and it's portrayal of trans issues. I was admittedly cringing at the thought of South Park tackling the issue. But when I watched it, I discovered it was a sharp departure from the Mrs. Garrison arc in its treatment of transexual people, and totally shrugged off the typical South Park 'truth is in the middle' rhetoric in favour of taking an actual stand.

Crain posted:

In the end none of this is going to change (speaking in regards to GamerGate/Feminist Frequency) until the internet, by which I mean 15-30 year old white male "nerds", get's over it's obscene attachment to offense as the highest paragon of humor. The thing I'm noticing is that society in general is becoming less and less accepting of the idea of "punching down" and thus there are fewer and fewer targets for offensive humor. So these poor bastards who were raised on South Park and learned that insulting literally anyone and everyone is the best way to be funny (and that also means you can't get in trouble because offending everyone is ok) are finding out that, actually, there are some limits when it comes to social discourse. So while you can still say anything you want, there are fewer places where you won't get poo poo for it.

There's also the general idea that "nerds" are the perpetual victims, as if this were "Revenge of the Nerds", so calling them out for being assholes doesn't make sense since they're discriminated against AS WELL! WHAT PRIVILEGE!?

Crain posted:

Yeah, that's the funniest part. Even South Park themselves have walked back from the stupid loving idea that being offensive for no reason is either funny or free from reproach "if you didn't really mean it". But these guys are still riding that gravy train.

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