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Oh poo poo I forgot Bazooka was white, I guess Tank Top is a mashup of Bazooka and Roadblock 
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Jan 27, 2015 21:10
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My favourite what the gently caress reference that led to extensive googling was when Vatred, Hank and Dean go watch notLotR at the cinema and Vatred says something like 'Did Henry Darger write this?'
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Jan 27, 2015 21:11
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wizardstick posted:My favourite what the gently caress reference that led to extensive googling was when Vatred, Hank and Dean go watch notLotR at the cinema and Vatred says something like 'Did Henry Darger write this?' Holy poo poo!
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Jan 27, 2015 21:53
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wizardstick posted:My favourite what the gently caress reference that led to extensive googling was when Vatred, Hank and Dean go watch notLotR at the cinema and Vatred says something like 'Did Henry Darger write this?'
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Jan 28, 2015 00:10
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He's been the subject of PBS documentaries and things like that before. I think he was better-known in the 70s/80s.
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Jan 28, 2015 00:14
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Arm_Fruit posted:Casually reading a book about censorship throughout history lead me to find The Watch and Ward Society of late 19th-early 20th century. They were designed to suppress books, art, and gambling. I'm not creative or intellectual enough to make the connection to the characters besides the name. I think it's more of a coincidence, as Watch and Ward seem to exist solely to 'watch' for trouble and 'ward' Guild members away from it.
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Jan 28, 2015 01:23
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I just noticed I never actually watched the Momma's Boys episode in season 5 and man it's great.
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Jan 28, 2015 01:39
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Nintendo Kid posted:I just noticed I never actually watched the Momma's Boys episode in season 5 and man it's great. 
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Jan 28, 2015 04:59
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BIG HEADLINE posted:I think it's more of a coincidence, as Watch and Ward seem to exist solely to 'watch' for trouble and 'ward' Guild members away from it. Oh come on. It's a reference and you know it.
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Jan 28, 2015 05:04
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What is this, the talk page on the Homestar Runner wiki?
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Jan 28, 2015 05:25
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We met on the livejournal! Although honestly any reference post-1995 feels really unnatural, except for like Hulk Hands and anything 21-related for some reason.
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Jan 28, 2015 05:31
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if you don't start taking care of your pimples now you'll end up like f murray abraham or edward james olmos!
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Jan 28, 2015 05:40
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BUSEY!!!
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Jan 28, 2015 05:52
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I don't know, he just keeps saying he's the "fire starter."
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Jan 28, 2015 06:20
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Welp, since the problem of "it's been so long since I saw Venture Bros that I don't remember any of the callbacks" I guess it's time to watch the series over again from the start. Season 1's art is a shock to see again, there's so much economical "shuffle poo poo around in compositing" animation that some scenes almost look like a modernized version of the 60's Fantastic Four cartoon. Episode 1: Rusty started out as much more of an rear end in a top hat in the early days and his image has kinda softened over the years. He's more of a lovable loser now, and the worst thing he did recently was attempting to concoct Spanish Fly to get lucky during the homeschool prom, which is pretty horrible in itself, but not as bad as stealing kidneys from both of your kids in the first episode. Episode 4: Mr Brisby is talking about making Brisbyland a self-sustaining community. I just remembered that Walt Disney originally envisioned EPCOT in a similar way; an entire community that would produce everything it needed and be self-sustaining. There's a moment after Brock and Molotov fight where he finds out she still has her chastity belt. He smokes to blow off some steam and she asks for a cigarette. She smokes it seductively, causing Brock to lose his mind. The animation on his face as it wrestles with frustration is totally cribbed from Kricfalusi:  The Orange County Liberation Front: the real Disneyland is actually in Orange County, and yea, it's very suburbia. Oddly enough, there's an "orange is the new black" reference in the episode, but Orange Is The New Black wouldn't be published until 7 years later, in 2010. Brisby's henchman sees Brock with a rivet gun and says "yo I just work here, I don't need this poo poo anymore" and leaves. I feel like Iron Man 3 ripped this joke off ("I just work here, I don't even like these guys, they're creepy!"), but I don't know if VB copied it from somewhere else either... Molotov steals the panda for David Bowie. I dunno if it they had Sovereign = Bowie planned all along or if it was just a retcon, but it's neat that a random joke like that turned into a big deal later. ***** I feel like Brock was originally envisioned as more of a psychopath, later on he kind of settles into more of cool badass role ***** Episode 5: So weird to hear a David Koresh reference joke. Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 10:34 on Jan 28, 2015 |
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Jan 28, 2015 09:41
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Brock softening up was a big deal for me in season 2, I didn't like it for a long time because of that. It turned out to be for he best though, there's only so much you could do with season 1 Brock.
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Jan 28, 2015 10:26
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Early season 1 could get pretty John K. I remember seeing a commercial of Brock brutalizing henchmen and honestly believing it was an ad for "The Ripping Friends".
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Jan 28, 2015 13:29
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There's definitely a "Jackson's original vision" of the show visible in the pilot and first few S1 episodes where Brock's a psycho and Doc's even more of an ethical monster. Also Underbheit is the arch-enemy (the Doom to Doc's Richards), the Monarch isn't a recurring character, and their Dr. Strange pastiche was supposed to be in a single episode and not move in next door. That all got scrambled once Doc Hammer got involved and they wrote a few scripts.
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Jan 28, 2015 15:09
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Omnomnomnivore posted:There's definitely a "Jackson's original vision" of the show visible in the pilot and first few S1 episodes where Brock's a psycho and Doc's even more of an ethical monster. Also Underbheit is the arch-enemy (the Doom to Doc's Richards), the Monarch isn't a recurring character, and their Dr. Strange pastiche was supposed to be in a single episode and not move in next door. That all got scrambled once Doc Hammer got involved and they wrote a few scripts. I don't think that's really the case, Doc Hammer was writing scripts from the beginning and the Monarch shows up a lot in the early episodes -- especially if you go by production codes instead of the order the episodes aired in.
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Jan 28, 2015 17:38
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Underbheit would have been a terrible villain. The episode was alright, but him being a villain was more creepy and not funny.
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Jan 28, 2015 17:56
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I don't think the split is that simple. I waffle back and forth on whose episodes I tend to prefer, usually ending up on Hammer, but each of them bring totally necessary elements and tone to the table. And yeah, Brisby and the first Underbheit episodes are definitely the low points of the series for me so if that was what the show was meant to be like in the beginning I don't care what is responsible for the improvement, as this is one of those rare shows that has just gotten better each season.
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Jan 28, 2015 18:02
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I had a thought: could Jonas Jr. have used Fat Choice to escape to... anywhere else?
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Ithaqua posted:I don't think that's really the case, Doc Hammer was writing scripts from the beginning and the Monarch shows up a lot in the early episodes -- especially if you go by production codes instead of the order the episodes aired in. I'm mostly going by what I remember from the commentaries - I think Jackson says on "Mid-Life Chrysalis" that he was surprised that they ended up bringing the Monarch back for something like the 3rd time in 4 episodes, and that he ended up such a major character. When they made him up for the pilot he was a one-off. Doc Hammer's only contribution to the pilot was the title sequence. feedmyleg posted:I don't think the split is that simple. I waffle back and forth on whose episodes I tend to prefer, usually ending up on Hammer, but each of them bring totally necessary elements and tone to the table. While I think Hammer episodes have more raw funny, obviously this wouldn't be the Venture Bros. without the balance of their sensibilities. I love the Brisby episode, mostly for the David Bowie Panda stuff and the Brock vs. Molotov fight (which if I recall was heavily promoted on AS in 2004.)
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Jan 28, 2015 18:37
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Mraagvpeine posted:I had a thought: could Jonas Jr. have used Fat Choice to escape to... anywhere else? I'm pretty sure Fat Choice was still in the casino room, not sure if he'd be able to get down to there in the like 15 seconds between his last talk with anyone outside and the core blowing up. Plus the casino room might not have even been in the portion of Gargantua 2 that got detached with the control room.
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Mraagvpeine posted:I had a thought: could Jonas Jr. have used Fat Choice to escape to... anywhere else? I doubt it. JJ was in bad shape and had to be at the controls of the reactor portion of the ship. Unless Fat Choice also happened to be there, it just wouldn't be possible. And, I also doubt that the reactor core that was torn off the space station contained the gambling room, which is the last place where we knew Fat Choice and the rest of the Revenge Society to be. After all, everyone in that room was able to board escape pods and ships that launched from a different part of the station. Also, I believe the core explodes before you see Phantom Limb and Radical Left transport into Meteor Majeure, so even if Fat Choice was in the reactor core, he and his cronies would have ceased to be. So I don't think there's any way JJ could have used Fat Choice as you suggest. (Besides, it would not change the fact that he'd still be dying.) No, I think they're just getting rid of JJ and Treister. I did just notice the Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb reference, though. Can't believe I missed that incredibly obvious couple of seconds at the end.
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Episode 10: Tag Sale You're It This one's packed with pop culture references that made a lot more sense in 2003. Rusty refers to Brock's assistant agents as his "ska band," Monarch and Dr Girlfriend are making fun of Bearded Specter's 90's baggy shorts, and Monarch is surprised to find out from Dr Girlfriend that the guy from Depeche Mode is straight (she saw it on a special on VH1). ***** Baron Underbheit is awesome, I don't know what you schmucks are talking about. ***** edit: oh poo poo, Augustus St Cloud was in this episode. edit: oh poo poo, also, making fun of "Star Wars Kid" Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Jan 28, 2015 |
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Mraagvpeine posted:I had a thought: could Jonas Jr. have used Fat Choice to escape to... anywhere else? You can't escape terminal cancer.
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Steve Yun posted:Baron Underbheit is awesome, I don't know what you schmucks are talking about. He's familiar with the Guild's charter of caschual contact.
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Steve Yun posted:the guy from Depeche Mode is straight But..... but he's in Depeche Mode!
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Steve Yun posted:
Until he was named in season 3 or 4, St. Cloud was just always referred to as "The girly mag scientist" in most online discussions I saw. Something about that line and the way he pronounces ge-LLAR really captured the imagination, I guess. Tag Sale, You're It! Is also notable for being the first ep that had to do crowd shots with the weird super-science/villain side of the VB world, so it's our first peek at a lot of characters, Phantom Limb being a notable example. I want to say it's the first ep with Pete White and Billy Quizboy, as well as the first time we see a significant amount of 21/24 banter. It might be, of all the early season 1 stuff, the most emblematic of what the show eventually evolved into: esoteric pop culture references, genre fiction pastiches, and 2-headed schtick. e: Looking at the episode list, for some reason I thought Tag Sale happened way earlier in the season than it actually did, so never mind tin can made man fucked around with this message at 20:48 on Jan 28, 2015 |
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Jan 28, 2015 20:46
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If you go by production order Tag Sale is the first appearances of Phantom Limb, 21 and 24 as a duo, Pete and Billy outside the pilot, and the first mention of the Guild. The show's whole universe kind of sprang out of that one episode.
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Tag Sale - You're It is still an absolute favorite episode of mine. A ton of future characters and plot lines show up, it has a ton of funny poo poo, and it's kinda the first episode that 21 and 24 start becoming mauve shirts in their own right.Omnomnomnivore posted:If you go by production order Tag Sale is the first appearances of Phantom Limb, 21 and 24 as a duo, Pete and Billy outside the pilot, and the first mention of the Guild. The show's whole universe kind of sprang out of that one episode.
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Jan 28, 2015 21:02
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Ghosts of the Sargasso was my first episode and is pretty much the best intro to the series, imo.
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Jan 28, 2015 21:19
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I think Tag Sale was also the first appearance of everyone's favorite villain:
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Jan 28, 2015 21:38
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Did Fat Chance make it out alive? He was knocked out by Billy's hot Mom and wasn't at the Council of 13 meeting at the end.
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Jan 28, 2015 21:47
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JediTalentAgent posted:The Boys' Brigade just had me wonder something that is pure speculation: Could the boy scout figure have been the Sovereign? What boy scout figure? I take it somebody in scout garb in one of the boys brigade photos or something?
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Jan 28, 2015 21:48
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Arm_Fruit posted:Did Fat Chance make it out alive? He was knocked out by Billy's hot Mom and wasn't at the Council of 13 meeting at the end. I don't know if he'd be able to...I don't think he's capable of pulling himself through his time/space portal.
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Jan 28, 2015 21:54
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Why do you suppose the Investors don't show up on camera?
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Mraagvpeine posted:Why do you suppose the Investors don't show up on camera? They exist only in the Human Callus's imagination.
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