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fyodor posted:lol i just looked it up this was released in 1994. MBV Loveless, Melvins Lysol and Houdini, SY's Goo and Daydream Nation, Mudhoney's Superfuzz Bigmuff, Pixies Surfer Rosa, Spacemen 3, Superchunk, the Wipers, Minutemen, Jesus Lizard, etc., etc. I get the point that you're making but "slightly before 1994" is kinda bullshit. Let's do these in order: 1991, 1992/3, 1990/88, 1988, 1988, broke up in 1991, actually had an album in 1994, reunited in 1993, broke up in 1985, actually had an album in 1994, etc. etc. That's a pretty big span of time there.
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Allen Wren posted:I get the point that you're making but "slightly before 1994" is kinda bullshit. i think the point he/she is trying to make is dr. faustus has terrible taste in music dr. faustus what is your opinion of nirvana killing hair metal
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Allen Wren posted:I get the point that you're making but "slightly before 1994" is kinda bullshit. is it?? those are all during operating years of faustus' glorious kings x. I mean, yeah, I could've mentioned swans, the frogs, fugazi, but you get the point.
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ThePutty posted:dr. faustus what is your opinion of nirvana killing hair metal based on the bands he idolizes i'm not sure he's even aware that happened also this is the most anyone's ever discussed kings x, including back during their commercial peak, minor as it was
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i wonder if there's a person out there googling kings x every day looking for internet discussions about them
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ThePutty posted:i wonder if there's a person out there googling kings x every day looking for internet discussions about them he doesn't have to google, he's right here with the discussion
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the posts are coming from inside the thread
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I bought a GoPro thingy with jaw clamp and extender pole to whack on my guitar. After a day of fiddling I'm seriously confused how all the youtube guys are mounting these things to their guitar bodies and managing not to whack the thing out of the way when playing. I think I'll have to stick with clamping it on the headstock. :/
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Personally, I think Nirvana was inspired. Just such a great collection of hooks and melodies. As far as KX goes, I think they had a great run from Gretchen Goes to Nebraska all the way up to Dogman, and capped off well with Ear Candy which pretty much had a ton of radio-friendly "hit" type songs. I just didn't like Ty's switch to Marshalls on Ear Candy after his great Lab tones and, holy poo poo, those MESAs on Dogman with his red Zion. After that it was all downhill (modelling amps, lovely Yamahas, just a huge downward slide in tone, like he just didn't care anymore.) Doug's bass tones remained great, though. The 12-string Hamer bass is very distinctive, too. Anything after Ear Candy I just don't listen to. They have come right out in interviews and admitted that after like twenty-plus years as a band they just didn't feel it anymore, which is why they pursued their solo projects. I don't think they'll ever recapture that magic unless they relent and let Sam Taylor work with them again, but I think that ship has sailed. I'm truly sorry you guys don't like them, as their signature combination of deeply detuned riffs and great vocals was really exactly what I wanted to hear. Once they got burnt out and stopped caring, I basically did, too. It's sad they never got the commercial success they deserved. They truly were a musician's band. 
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Dr. Faustus posted:Personally, I think Nirvana was inspired. Just such a great collection of hooks and melodies. A customer gave me a copied CD by a band called 'Love' (I forget the name of the album, but it was apparently the best one) for.... some reason. I think he thought I would like them? He did tell me that they were a "true musicians band".0 It was.... ok. Kind of 60's poppy/garage rock stuff. The same guy gave me a Dream Theatre - Images and Words too. It's a terrible album but I kind of like it. It's dire though.
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Hey, look what I found; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU20TS1vvCg This guy is awesome.
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Saw this on Facebook today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjEGtUXGWa0 I kind of want a fretless guitar now haha I realize it's sort of terrible, but it looks fun as gently caress.
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White Dog Eggs posted:Hey, look what I found;
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White Dog Eggs posted:A customer gave me a copied CD by a band called 'Love' (I forget the name of the album, but it was apparently the best one) for.... some reason. I think he thought I would like them? He did tell me that they were a "true musicians band".0 It was.... ok. Kind of 60's poppy/garage rock stuff. that's the only dream theater album i've heard and god i hate it and can't stand the band because of it...i think
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My 90s guilty pleasure is Non-Intentional Lifeform and I wish more music was as loving angry as this Irish/Aussie band could get. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niNzt4gSjRg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpTlBcqSlz0
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both of those guys seem pretty neat, too-many-strings and not-enough-frets.
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Dr. Faustus posted:They truly were a musician's band. This is the sort of thing that inevitably sets off warning bells for me. Like, it's one thing to play and to play well, but if your playing is at a point where it can't be appreciated unless you have a degree from Berklee, get the gently caress off my hi-fi. Sure, it can be argued that I'm arguing from an anti-intellectual standpoint, but once a group or artist is labeled a "musician's band/artist", there will inevitably be acolytes of that group who---and I'm not actually referring to Faustus here---try and inflict them upon everybody, to endless tedium. I believe I told a story earlier in this thread about my girlfriend's ex who bought her a Gong CD for her birthday and proceeded to get mad and sulky when she didn't like it? Yeah. That sort of thing. I don't like the idea that you have to be brainier to "get" something or the implication that if you don't "get" something, you're a mouth-breathing C.H.U.D. Full disclosure, I have one King's X album, and while there's a couple songs on it that I dig, it's a little meh. Got it for free, can't complain. It's outside of the "classic" period Faustus describes, so.
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I don't understand "experimental music" like Henry Kaiser and other similar noise.
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The first couple King's X albums are pretty cool and good and lumping those guys in with Dream Theater or whatever is kind of a dick move
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Allen Wren posted:if your playing is at a point where it can't be appreciated unless you have a degree from Berklee, get the gently caress off my hi-fi. And if you've been exposed to anything after 1996 (or, if I'm totally honest, after 1994) then I can totally understand. I didn't mean "musicians music" in such a pejorative way, I promise. Also, I'm through proselytizing. Sorry it was so annoying. VVV Sorry, I'll drop it. VVV Dr. Faustus fucked around with this message at 01:52 on Jan 29, 2015 |
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Allen Wren posted:This is the sort of thing that inevitably sets off warning bells for me. generally i take it to mean they can't write songs for poo poo
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comes along bort posted:generally i take it to mean they can't write songs for poo poo That's what it means.
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Faustus, what do you think about My Bloody Valentine's Loveless? I'm only asking because either the answer's gonna be really interesting, or dumb.
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umalt posted:Faustus, what do you think about My Bloody Valentine's Loveless? Listening now. What do you call this genre? It's. Dissonant. Kinda noisy. When You Sleep is pretty good. Dr. Faustus fucked around with this message at 05:38 on Jan 29, 2015 |
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Dr. Faustus posted:
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Dr. Faustus posted:Listening now. What do you call this genre? It's. Dissonant. Kinda noisy. it's shoegaze so named because the guitarists are so busy staring at their rather extensive pedalboards
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unlawfulsoup posted:I don't understand "experimental music" like Henry Kaiser and other similar noise. One of my bands (Bum and Possum Combination) is a free jazz/noise/experimental thing I put together as a joke but has made more money than all of my actual serious bands combined. That should not be read as 'made a lot of money', by the way. Most of the feedback I get after shows consists of something along the lines of 'What the gently caress WAS that?' or 'I don't know what to call that' and the occasional seriously angry dude ready to kick my rear end because he 'didn't get it' and therefore I was insulting his intelligence. I do it because it's fun to make an unholy, glorious noise without worrying about hitting the right notes or sticking to a set formula for songs. People come up with the whole 'higher concept of transcending what people perceive as music' bullshit, but my purpose for this band is to beat on a synth with my fists for 45 minutes and get $20 and two well drinks as a result. Here is our first basement EP and a live album that I threw together before my old drummer moved to Kentucky. We're now a 4 piece, have a much heavier sound, and spend our entire set laughing at each other for doing stupid poo poo while playing.
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I always thought shoegaze was named such because of the crowd looking at their shoes, not the band.
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It's named shoegaze because you gotta look at the floor when using the vacuum, the sound of which inspired the music.
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BigHustle posted:One of my bands (Bum and Possum Combination) is a free jazz/noise/experimental thing I put together as a joke but has made more money than all of my actual serious bands combined. That should not be read as 'made a lot of money', by the way. Honestly you should join me, my keytar, fencing shirt, in the greatest (worst) NYC subway performance band. Now with more annoying random drum loops.
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unlawfulsoup posted:I don't understand "experimental music" like Henry Kaiser and other similar noise. If you are interested, Joe Morris' book on the topic is excellent : http://www.amazon.com/Perpetual-Frontier-Properties-Free-Music/dp/0985981008/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1422535970&sr=8-3&keywords=joe+morris Then watch the movie "Frank" on Netflix. short summary: BigHustle posted:I do it because it's fun
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satanic splash-back posted:i have to be correct on the internet about guitars that make beep boop bop noises there is no fun to be had in this world
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Schpyder posted:it's shoegaze i really love shoegaze and try to write it but everyone that plays with me gets bored and it always turns into something else :[
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Smash it Smash hit posted:i really love shoegaze and try to write it but everyone that plays with me gets bored and it always turns into something else :[ aren't a lot of shoegaze bands just one guy recording everything?
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Smash it Smash hit posted:i really love shoegaze and try to write it but everyone that plays with me gets bored and it always turns into something else :[ In MBV's case, it helps to be on hallucinogenics or ecstasy or both.
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And when you listen to MBV, you have to realize the insane volume level that it should be played at.
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Spanish Manlove posted:there is no fun to be had in this world im having fun, reading full essays about it
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Spanish Manlove posted:aren't a lot of shoegaze bands just one guy recording everything? I mean some yeah but, I wanna actually play live with a band and not a loop station. Maybe i'll just record and program in some drums or something and lure friends to play it live by offering drugs/alcohol.
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